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Billionaire Steve Fossett's Personal Documents Found

POSTED BY: out2theblack
UPDATED: Monday, October 6, 2008 18:42
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Wednesday, October 1, 2008 11:17 PM

He was missing with a light plane from Barron Hilton's 'Flying M' Ranch since more than a year ago , and some personal documents and cash have been found in California's Sierra Nevada Mountains...

Associated Press VIDEO :



Photo of Airman's Certificate and C-Note :

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/10/01/fossett-zoom.html

It is being erroneously reported that " a glider license " was among the documents found , but it was actually a membership card for the Soaring Society of America...

The airman's certificate (FAA) is actually the required identification for glider operations .

Fossett held an 'Airline Transport Pilot' level of certificate , which requires a minimum of 1500 hours of experience ; it's an additional level beyond the Commercial Pilot level of certification .

The glider 'rating' would have been an additional level of experience added to his Airman's Certificate .

What is being reported as the glider 'license' is merely a membership card .

http://www.ssa.org/society/whatisthessa.asp

" August 29, 2006 -
El Calafate, Argentina: Wearing NASA spacesuits and flying along the crest of the Andes, pilot Steve Fossett (USA b. 1944) and co-pilot Einar Enevoldson (USA b. 1932) took their ‘Perlan’ high performance research glider on the world’s first stratospheric glider flight yesterday - surfing the Andean ‘mountain wave’ to a height of 50,699 feet (15,453 m) * - while breaking the previous record by 1,662 ft (507m) . The old record 49,009 ft (14,940 m) by Robert Harris was set in 1986 in California. "

http://www.perlanproject.com

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 10:02 AM

Here's an oddity...

A production company working for the Discovery Channel was nearby when the items were discovered...

They were working on a documentary about Fossett's disappearance , and were able to secure an exclusive right to photograph the cash and documents...

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-fossett2-200
8oct02,0,3329894,full.story


'Before turning the cash and cards into local police late Tuesday, Morrow and Baumwohl revisited the site with a GPS device and a video crew that had been working on TV productions in the area for several months. The plan, Baumwohl said, was to offer authorities as much information as possible.

"We had been researching Steve Fossett's disappearance since he was declared dead," said producer Eric Schotz of Encino-based LMNO Productions, which provides shows for the Discovery Channel, among others. His crew's presence and the discovery of the apparent Fossett items was coincidental, he said: "It's one weird, ironic trip."

Schotz, who was on hand for the strenuous hike Tuesday, said his group did not plan to pay Morrow for his participation.

However, Baumwohl held open the possibility that Morrow might receive compensation for a production "that goes a little bit beyond regular news."

Whether reward money is available for information leading to Fossett's discovery was unclear Wednesday.'

Times staff writers Amanda Covarrubias and Dennis McClellan contributed to this report.

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Thursday, October 2, 2008 4:06 PM

P S Y O P


Never in history has an ELT transmitter failed to locate a crash site

Fossett's plane found; no human remains
www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/02/steve.fossett.search/index.html?eref=rss_top
stories

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431605,00.html
www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?contentBlockId=a557827e-2a8d-417a-99cc-eb8
3b5f8f558


Steve Fossett Man of Mystery - 100 aviation world records including spaceflight
www.stevefossett.com

Did their find the missing nuke?
Why did all the B52 crew get killed?
www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread302316/pg1
www.911review.org/Reports/Minot-DEAD.html

The "search for Fossett" was merely a cover story for the search for the missing nuke from the B52 that Cheney was sending to nuke Iran (or nuke USA?). All the USAF mutineers, whistleblowers and witnesses died violent "accidental" deaths.

OPERATION NORTHWOODS - the signed confession by US Govt for perping terrorist attacks in USA, bombings in USA, hijackings in USA, assassinations in USA, then scattering fake wreckage for fake crashes of fake CIA aircraft for fake CIA pilots who never died:

Quote:


www.mackwhite.com/northwoods.html

OPERATION NORTHWOODS

signed: General Lyman Lemnitzer USAF
Jewish chairman US joint chiefs of staff at Pentagon

b. We could blow up a drone (unmannded) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. We could arrange to cause such incident in the vicinity of Havana or Santiago as a spectacular result of Cuban attack from the air or sea, or both. The presense of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The nearness to Havana or Santiago would add credibility especially to those people that might have heard the blast or have seen the fire. The US could follow with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existant crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.

6. Use of MIG type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping and destruction of US military drone aircraft
by MIG type planes would be useful as complementary actions.

An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce such fact. The primary drawback to this suggestion appears to be the security risk inherent in obtaining or modifying an aircraft. However, reasonable copies of the MIG could
be purchased from US resources in about three months.

8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to
Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba.

The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.

a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be subsituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircr

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Friday, October 3, 2008 4:38 AM

Fosset's corpse eaten by wild animals, only 80 miles from Barron Hilton's airport?
www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/02/steve.fossett.search/index.html

How convenient...

Especially during the current Wall Street BAILout. He had invested in Bear Stearns, which went BK last month, after executives stole $400-billion.

Quote:

Fossett made his money in the financial services industry but became renowned for his daredevil exploits. He was the first person to circle the globe solo in a balloon, accomplishing the feat in 2002, and the first to fly a plane around the world solo without refueling, which he did three years later. He also set world records in round-the-world sailing and cross-country skiing.

Sounds like a derivatives kinda guy. And DB Cooper.
Quote:


Cessna, Piper ELT, Emergency Locator Transmitter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Position-Indicating_Radio_Beaco
n


Quote:

Currently, ELTs are required to be installed in almost all U.S.-registered civil aircraft, including general aviation aircraft, as a result of a congressional mandate. The mandate resulted from the 1972 loss of U.S. Representative Hale Boggs [Warren Commission] and Nick Begich in Alaska after their aircraft crashed and was [allegedly] never found [BS].

The original ELTs were manufactured to the specifications of an FAA technical standard order (TSO-C91) and have an activation rate of less than 25 percent in actual crashes and a 97 percent false-alarm rate. In 1985, a new TSO-C91A ELT was developed, which substantially reduces or eliminates many problems with the earlier model. The TSO-C91A provides improved performance and reliability (with an activation rate of 73 percent in actual crashes) at a reasonable cost to users ($200-$500 including installation). Since then, an even more advanced model of ELT has been developed — the C126 ELT (406 MHz). This newest model activates 81-83 percent of the time and transmits a more accurate and near-instantaneous emergency signal by utilizing digital technology.

In 1982 a satellite-based monitoring system was implemented (COSPAS-SARSAT) to provide a better receiving source for these signals.

www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/elt.html



Why can't we find Steve Fossett?

"Millionaire Adventurer" Steve Fossett has now been missing for three days after his plane went down over Nevada. Search and Rescue seems to be having a lot of trouble finding him, which is a bit surprising. I had just assumed that he wasn't carrying a locator beacon for some reason (I don't think that PLBs are required, but I admit I'm not sure), but according to this he was:

"This is kind of strange because these aircrafts have transponders and emergency locators and you can usually readily find them anywhere in the world, including under the sea," said Ross Aimer, CEO of Aviation Experts, a San Clemente, California-based aviation consulting firm.
"This guy is totally lost.... So far, nobody's heard the electronic location beacon," said Aimer, who has flown the region several times. "That sounds to me very, very strange. There's all kinds of possibilities."

Officials say there's been no detection of the emergency locator beacon that would automatically go off in the event of a crash or could have been enabled by Fossett himself if he were capable. Fossett did not file a flight plan and didn't carry extra radio equipment because he was only planning to be gone for a short while, Ryan said.

Weird.

www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2007/09/why_cant_we_fin
.html


The aerial search over hundreds of miles of Nevada desert for adventurer Steve Fossett's missing plane highlights the urgent need for equipping planes with new digital emergency locator beacons, federal authorities said Wednesday. The small plane piloted by Fossett, 63, was equipped with an older emergency beacon that is notorious for failing to operate after crashes, according to federal safety officials and the agencies that monitor the emergency beacons.

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Friday, October 3, 2008 1:36 PM

The British papers don't believe Steve Fossett died in that "unsurvivable" crash. BUT THE EDITORS ARE CHANGING THE ORIGINAL NEWS ARTICLE!

Quote:

ORIGINAL TITLE NOW CENSORED: Bones found in Steve Fossett's plane wreck 'may be from animals'

NEW TITLE: Steve Fossett 'died instantly when his plane crashed into mountain in cloudy conditions'

2ND NEW TITLE: 'This closes a painful chapter in my life,' says wife of missing adventurer Steve Fossett as bone piece is DNA tested

CLICK ON LINK TO SEE REDIRECT URL:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1066253/Bones-Steve-Fossett
s-plane-wreck-animals.html



NTSB never investigated 9/11

Tests were being carried out today on human remains found amid the wreckage of Steve Fossett's plane on a remote Californian mountain.

Search crews found a 'very small amount' of remains in debris from the crash site, at 10,000 feet in the Sierra Nevada mountains.

The tests come as a local sheriff claims the bones found belonged to an animal.
Sheriff John Anderson said he was unsure that the bones discovered at the wreckage site were even human.

A helicopter was today hauling pieces of the wreckage away before a snow storm sweeps in.

Local officials said the wreckage implied a violent crash which destroyed the plane.
'It's not intact by any means... It looks like a very high impact crash.

It is not known if the plane suffered a mechanical failure or if Mr Fossett had a medical problem such as a heart attack.


Fossett flew this biplane across the Atlantic Ocean using only a sextant and compass for navigation

Hiker Preston Morrow, who also found three identification cards with Fossett's name while returning from a trek on Monday, said: 'I was coming back down this really steep terrain and what caught my eye was these little ID cards in the dirt and the pine needles, and some $100 bills.

'I see the ID. I caught the name. I got the ID cards ... and about five or six of the hundred dollar bills (which) were dirty and muddy. 'I was wondering, why are there some ID cards and money when there was nothing else? No wallet, no bags, nothing nothing, nothing.

Sir Richard Branson, a fellow balloonist and close friend of Mr Fossett, said on Thursday night that he had led 'a most extraordinary life'. He also said the discovery should lay to rest conspiracy theories suggesting Mr Fossett may have faked his own death.

The speculation followed a judge's decision to declare Mr Fossett legally dead in February, five months after his disappearance, allowing his widow, Peggy, to collect his £6million estate.

Under Illinois state law, someone usually has to be missing for seven years before a court gives up hope.


Billionaire wizards flew balloon to Oz


TO DO LIST

1. Read Operation Northwoods.

2. Take off from Barron Hilton's skyranch. "Forget" personal GPS SatNav ELT. Pick flight time according to when spy satellites not passing over route.

3. Land on the desert beside your SUV driven by your associate.

4. Disable aircraft ELT by cutting antenna wire. Don parachute, which is required to fly aerobatics, and this plane is made only for areobatics. Actually, its not possible to sit in the seat without a parachute. Carry GPS and portable radio.

5. Take off and head in the opposite direction to your original flight path. Followed by chaseplane or helicopter. Or have a substitute pilot do this.

6. Fly towards 15,000 foot mountain range.

7. Bail out at 10,000 feet.

8. Watch plane go boom, drift to safety.

9. Scatter personal ID cards and $100 bills. Cover wreckage with natural cammo. Radio for pickup with GPS coordinates.

10. Fly to private airfield. Board private jet. Flee USA.

11. New ID. Plastic surgery. Lose 100 pounds. Dye hair transplants. Spend how m

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 7:16 PM

Search for Fossett's body has now ended due to "POSSIBLE snow". How CONVENIENT. Crash site was only 65 miles from Hilton's airport.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/oct/04/officials-finish-at-fossett-s
ite-as-storm-rolls
/

I repeat, NO BODY, NO SEARCH, FISHY SMELL, CASE CLOSED.

Just like 9/11.

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Saturday, October 4, 2008 7:38 PM

"signed: General Lyman Lemnitzer USAF
Jewish chairman US joint chiefs of staff at Pentagon"

Hello,

Did he sign all of his documents as 'Jewish chairman?'

I don't understand why you have to constantly taint good intelligence and information with racial and sexual orientation data.

It's almost as if you don't want people to listen, but of course then why say it? Is it part of a secret code?

"Listen, insiders, I'm going to put 'Jewish' 'Homosexual' and 'Nazi' in all of my posts so that THE MAN will ignore me, but you guys will know I'm bringing you vital information."


--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Sunday, October 5, 2008 6:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by out2theblack:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/04/BA4H13BMT3
.DTL


DID FOSSETT HAVE 'DEATH WISH' ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1068812/Steve-Fossett-death-wi
sh-guilt-marriage-finances.html


The ELT Wristwatch Fossett Left Behind at the Ranch in Yerington , Nevada :

http://www.breitling.com/orbiter/breit97/eng/emerg.html



COVER STORY PSYOP!

Quote:

Hasley said Fossett was unhappy about having his adventures sponsored.
‘Though he never admitted it, maybe he also was under financial pressure.

‘As the cost of his planes and balloons mounted, he told me he decided to accept sponsorship. Now the world records he broke were stamped with the names of other people’s companies, like Virgin Atlantic and Budweiser.



ALL racers LOVE sponsorship! That's the most insane thing I've ever heard. Especially sponsorship from a frakkin BILLIONAIRE with a PRIVATE ISLAND FULL OF NAKED WHORES!

As a salesman, he had no problem whoring out his name on a trophy.

No racers have a deathwish. It's adrenaline they want. They're like crack addicts who will do anything to get a fix. It's their Will To Live.

If you want to kill yourself, you TAKE the ELT watch with you, so your family can get paid sooner. The only reason not to take it is to disappear.

What about his secret bank accounts? And the $50-million insurance policy? And Bear Stearns' BK.

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Sunday, October 5, 2008 7:51 PM

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...a frakkin BILLIONAIRE with a PRIVATE ISLAND FULL OF NAKED WHORES!



You say that like it's a BAD thing. Private island? Naked whores? When's that get to NOT be fun?

Mike

This world is a comedy for those who think, and a tragedy for those who feel.

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Sunday, October 5, 2008 9:33 PM

Exactly. Fossy had plenty to live for. If he has a fight with his wife, he can go buy 10 whores the same day. His wife will shut up since she's the highest paid whore of all. How many whores get paid $50-million?

The aircraft was very powerful and built for aerobatics, and could easily fly over those mountains. With only one passenger and no baggage, he could fly higher, farther and safer.

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Specifications (2006 8KCAB Super Decathlon)
Service ceiling 15,800 ft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Champion_Decathlon


Experts say Fossett’s plane was not designed for flying over mountain ranges. Mike Day, a veteran pilot from Reno, Nevada, said of the 180-horsepower plane: ‘The higher you go, the less power your engine has.’

Last night Fossett’s sister said she did not believe he took his own life. Speaking at her home in Lincoln, northern California, Linda Dansby said: ‘I can’t come up with any reason why an expert pilot like him would have crashed at all.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1068812/Steve-Fossett-death-wish-guil
t-marriage-finances.html





Fossy's 800 mph supersonic race car but he can't handle a 150 mph airplane?
www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/12/03/072284.html

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Sunday, October 5, 2008 9:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:

That's the most insane thing I've ever heard. BK.





You should try reading some of your own posts sometime.

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Sunday, October 5, 2008 9:38 PM

Odd that his papers would be found, and not him.

Critters get to his body?



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, October 6, 2008 2:02 AM

No critters eat bones. Where's his bones?

That's right, they called off the search for his body after 48 hours. "Biggest manhunt in world history", and that's the best they can do?

Took them a year to find a BRIGHT ORANGE arplane ON FIRE, invisible to the best spysats and military tech, only 60 miles from Hilton's airport. But he was discovered by the Discovery Channel?

Even the military pilots think he's still alive.

P S Y O P


Fossett crash NOTAM No Fly Zone 37º39'32"N, 119º07'32"W is 15 miles from an AIRPORT
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_8_1954.html

Google Earth crash site 37º39'32"N, 119º07'32"W
www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2008/10/steve_fossett_items_found_nea
r_mamm.html

www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2007/09/help_find_steve_fosset_with_g
oogle.html



Max Res: piratenews.org/steve-fosset-crash-flash-earth-oct2008a.jpg
www.flashearth.com/?lat=37.658919&lon=-119.12558&z=17.4&r=0&src=yh

Might as well be trying to find Apollo landers with Google Moon and lunar spysats.
www.boulder.swri.edu/~durda/Apollo/landing_sites.html
www.google.com/moon/

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Monday, October 6, 2008 9:15 AM

Quote:

piratenews wrote:
Sunday, October 05, 2008 16:02
No critters eat bones. Where's his bones?



They might not eat bones, but they sure might help in scattering them, pulling them a part and taking portions away from the rest of the body.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, October 6, 2008 9:20 AM

After a year out in the wild, there won't be much left of the bones. Whatever bones were left by animals would've probably been washed away long ago, and they disintegrate reasonably quickly if left unprotected (a year is a long time), so there wouldn't be too much left of them.

But they found some bone fragments in the plane, so I'm not sure what PN is on about.

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Monday, October 6, 2008 6:42 PM

"Human" DNA allegedly found at crash site:
www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2008/oct/03/fossett

But not Fossy's?

Normally it takes 6 months to get a DNA test...

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