The role of pyschopathy in modern society.
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"They almost certainly interbred in the wild and their offspring were almost certainly fertile."
A few skeletons of what appear to be Neandertal human crosses have been uncovered. However, the state of their fertility is in doubt, given the inability to find Neandertal traces in human DNA. It's possible humans simply swamped Neandertal out of existence - by numbers encouraging human Neandertal crosses which couldn't propagate, thus condemning Neandertal genes to extinction.
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Originally posted by swish:
What was this discussion about anyway? Psychopathic birds doing it with dinosaurs?
*confused*
I'm as confused as you are about the original subject of this thread. That's why I stayed away until something Rue said reminded me of the Neanderthal special that was on NGCHD Sunday night. I thought it would be of interest to the egg heads in this thread. Shouldn't have allowed Citizen to bait me into a off subject argument.
Thanks for policing the threads anyway. What was you contribution, a few vague insults and a dictionary definition?
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Re Greenlanders going extinct
"I think I understand what you're saying. It's like when all the Russians moved out of the Chernobyl site after the accident, that makes Russians extinct. ."
Yes, Greenlanders did actually all go extinct. The trading records of the day indicated no trading ships went to Greenland in a span of 100 years (one left Iceland for Greenland early in that timeframe but never returned. Voyaging was a dangerous occupation.) Furthermore, the Greenlanders had cleared all the available trees for pasture for their beloved cows, so they couldn't build ships. Without visiting ships and unable to make their own they were unable to go elsewhere. Finally, the archeological evidence is of a once large and thriving community with major elements long fallen into disrepair and disuse, indications of economic and population contraction. And the few skeletons and waste left behind indicated a half-dozen people living with their few remaining precious cattle, eating them, and eating each other. While ships occasionally sheltered near Greenland during the interim, knowledge of the colony itself was lost to time. The next time anyone visited the colony was hundreds of years later and, and obviously, no one was home.
My brain tells me you're right Rue, but my Viking blood and genetic memory forces me to deny it.
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Greenland was orginally a scam anyway.
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Quote:Now, son, I'm only gonna say this once. When I start policing threads, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed...
Originally posted by Kirkules:
Thanks for policing the threads anyway. What was you contribution, a few vague insults and a dictionary definition?
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
In my original post that is all I was trying to imply about Neanderthal. The "general consensus" among scientists is that Homo Sapien and Neanderthal are separate species. This is not a scientific fact.
Erm, yes it is. They are, or rather were, separate species. You'll be telling me Homosapians and Chimpanzees are the same species next.
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They are classified that way because the current consensus is that most of the evidence in the fossil record suggests that this may be the case.
They had different Skeletons, different bodies, different sized brains, different eating habits. They were a different species, there's no new evidence that can turn up that can change that. Any more than there'll be any new evidence to show Humans are the same species as armadillos.
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Many scientists believe that modern humans might be the result of Neanderthal, Home Sapien hybridization. If this is the case then the name given to our species is just a result of the fact that the consensus is that our skeletons more closely resemble Homo Sapien.
No, not really. There's no evidence of Neanderthal contribution to the Human genome.
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It's possible that future evidence will determine that the Neanderthal contribution to human genetics is much greater than currently thought.
It's possible that my body could quantum tunnel into next week, but that doesn't make it likely. Neanderthals were a different species, they have completely different bone structures. They're no closer to modern man than Donkeys are to Horses, and those two are also separate species.
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If that is the case it would be just as reasonable to call modern man Neanderthal as Homo Sapien. By any of the definitions of species you accept, Neanderthal and Homo Sapien would be considered the same due to the "blurring" between closely related species.
No, it wouldn't. Neanderthal man and modern humans aren't that closely related for a start.
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They almost certainly interbred in the wild and their offspring were almost certainly fertile.
They almost certainly did not. There's been a couple of finds that might suggest Neanderthal/Human interbreeding, but are far more likely to suggest other things entirely.
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The difference in their skeletal structure is significant, but so is the deference in skeletal structure among different populations of Homo Sapiens.
What? Seriously, this is just getting silly. The differences in skeletal structure between diverse racial groups of humans are negligible, the difference between any modern man and Neanderthal is huge. The differences between populations of modern man, and the differences between Neanderthals and modern man are completely incomparable. There is no comparison. It's like comparing a truck to another truck and saying a scooter could also be a truck because it has wheels. It doesn't make any sense.
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
Shouldn't have allowed Citizen to bait me into a off subject argument.
No, I shouldn't have let you bait me into an 'off subject argument'.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Anyway, as I mentioned in another thread, I read 'Blink', and it had in it something I had run across before but completely forgot about, which is the concept of priming. What that is the ability to influence people by using words with non-conscious associations. So, for example if you give a speech you might want to use words like clean, home, breeze, family - not even necessarily together. And you want to avoid words like welfare (even in the phrase 'our country's welfare' - b/c welfare has too many negative non-conscious associations), work (too hard), or think (too hard and suspicious).
For example you might say: The economy is stumbling. The path we are on is dangerous. We need a clean start. We need to take a fresh look at our policies and goals. They must clearly reflect our primary aim, which is to represent the citizens of this country. We need to remember that we're not just talking about housing, we're talking about homes --- and families. The winds of change haven’t started yet - what we are feeling is just a breeze.
That's a clumsy example, but it's been done very well over the years. And it doesn't have to make sense logically - but by evoking the right non-conscious associations you can gain support.
What does this have to do with unexamined paradigms ? Unexamined paradigms ARE our non-conscious associations. Even when illogical, contradictory or just plain silly they are the underpinnings of our 'thoughts' and actions.
But I'll have to save the rest for later.
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Dammit, quit spillin my beans, Rue!
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and another day another mass shooting in Shit-cago
in Britbongistan they protect the idenity of killers, the Bulger case set off a news talking head, chattering classes debate about how to handle young offenders when they are sentenced or released
bad kids?
Thompson and Venables were seen shoplifting various items, including sweets, batteries, a troll doll, and a can of blue Humbrol modelling paint.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090121191737/http://www.trutv.com/librar
y/crime/notorious_murders/young/bulger/1.html
In January 2019, the short film Detainment was nominated for Best Live Action Short Film at the 91st Academy Awards ("The Oscars"). The film is based on transcripts of the police interviews with Thompson and Venables after their arrests.
Britbong, they will often send police to arrest members of the public who complain about Thompson and Venables moving into t heir neighborhood
Justice David Bean, ruled that Venables' new identity could not be revealed, but the media were allowed to report that he had been living in Cheshire at the time of his arrest. The High Court also heard that Venables had been arrested on suspicion of affray in September 2008, following a drunken street fight with another man. Late that year, he was cautioned for possession of cocaine. In November 2010, a review of the National Probation Service handling of the case by David Omand found that probation officers could not have prevented Venables from downloading child sexual abuse material. Harry Fletcher, the assistant general secretary of the National Association of Probation Officers, said that only 24 hour surveillance would have stopped Venables
https://web.archive.org/web/20121105135827/http://www.scribd.com/doc/4
3766244/Venables-Omand-Review
In June 2019, it was reported that Brithonistani officials had considered resettling Venables in Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, due to the high costs behind protecting his anonymity. Britbongistan authorities had reportedly spent £65,000 in legal fees to keep Venables' identity a secret.
In January 2020, a 53-year-old woman from Ammanford in South Wales received a prison sentence of eight months, suspended for 15 months: in November 2017, she had published an alleged photograph of Venables on Facebook, with the advice "share this as much as possible". Lord Justice Nigel Davis said that the offence was "close to the line" for an immediate prison sentence, but suspended the sentence after observing an early admission of guilt and remorse by the woman
https://web.archive.org/web/20200125141004/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
uk-wales-51233590
‘Psychopath’ art benefactor killed beloved NYC artist — and then shot himself as longtime partner grasps for answers
https://www.yahoo.com/news/psychopath-art-benefactor-killed-beloved-21
3056188.html
Family of teen slain by 'psychopath' who bedded prison therapists share chilling warning
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13938337/eric-kane-murder-jac
ob-wideman-arizona-release.html
Teen arrested in mother's stabbing death, 19 months after fatally shooting father
https://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-arrested-mother-stabbing-year-after-fat
ally-shooting-father/story?id=113640100
The teen called 911 and said his mother "fell on a knife"
Grady Judd says teen accused of murdering his mother also killed his father: 'Violent predator'
https://www.fox13news.com/news/grady-judd-says-teen-accused-murdering-
his-mother-also-killed-his-father-violent-predator
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Mayor Eric Adams is dropping out of New York City’s mayoral race amid escalating pressure to clear the crowded field in a last-ditch attempt to stop socialist Zohran Mamdani’s election to City Hall.
The bombshell move comes after weeks of back-and-forth over whether Adams would bow out of the race, in which he is polling fourth, far behind frontrunner Mamdani, former Gov. Andrew Cuomo and also, Republican nominee Curtis Sliwa.
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Adams did not endorse any of the other candidates, and even took subtle swipes at Mamdani and Cuomo — issuing a warning about local government being used to launder radical ideals and urging voters not to elect a mayor who’s flip-flopped on the issues.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/eric-adams-drops-out-of-nyc-mayo
ral-race-amid-increasing-pressure-i-know-i-cannot-continue-my-campaign/
Trump goes on a tear over ‘psychopathic nut job’ Jerry Nadler after veteran Democrat announces retirement
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-goes-tear-over-psychopathic-122650564.
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