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South Ossetia: Defense against ethnic cleansing, or invasion? (Turns out, Georgia fired missiles first. it was self defense)

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:03 PM

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What have you done?
I asked you first. I'll answer when you do.

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:09 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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What have you done?
I asked you first. I'll answer when you do.

Why should I justify to you that I'm not a callous son of a bitch, when I've given you no reason to think that? Why should I validate your closed minded attitude towards other opinions? If you want to hate people because they don't share your opinions, then be my guest, but don't expect them to participate in it.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:12 PM

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The question is: Now what?

How bout we stay the hell out of it and learn the merits of leaving well the hell enough alone unless it's actually our problem for once ?
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Let me know when you’re ready to have a discussion about Bush that doesn’t include equating him to Darth Vader, then we’ll find out.

Oh please, Bush couldn't shine Vader's boots with a manual and a dremel buffer...

Besides, Vader rewarded failure with a crushed larynx instead of "heckuva job", didn't he ?

We'd be knee deep in corpses if Shrub could even hold a penlight, much less a candle, to Vader.
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My God, man! How do you even think{???

It's called Doublethink, Neocon shills are as a whole quite good at it, because there's no actual coherent thought to get in the way, just a big wad of emotions, primarily fear, and automatic reflex when the right buttons are pushed.

Look at how easily PN drives Rap straight into a flying, foaming rage, for example, you GOTTA know by now he's doin that on purpose just to watch Rap flip out.

Once you know where the buttons are, whole masses of political folk become all too easy to manipulate - how else do you think I pull off some of the stuff I do ?


-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:12 PM

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Originally posted by swish:
Wwhere did this article come from, Participant? Because it's really atrocious. Just wrong. Examples:

Interesting points. Demonstrating once again that blogs aren’t known for their accuracy.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:13 PM

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Why should I justify to you that I'm not a callous son of a bitch, when I've given you no reason to think that?
Just because you're for the death penalty and haven't met a war you didn't agree with and believe in bullying?

Hmm... yes, I see that I would have no reason to think you're callous.

How silly of me!!!!



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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:17 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
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Why should I justify to you that I'm not a callous son of a bitch, when I've given you no reason to think that?
Just because you're for the death penalty and haven't met a war you didn't agree with and believe in bullying?

Hmm... yes, I see that I would have no reason to think you're callous.

How silly of me!!!!

Pretty silly, considering how wrong you are on all the points you attribute to me.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:20 PM

Well Finn, I now know that you lie.

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Any idea, no matter how much you may agree with it, can be radicalized and employed as an excuse for violence. There is no such thing as a righteous or untouchable philosophy, and when you start thinking that there is, you have become an extremist.- Finn Mac Cumhal

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:25 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Well Finn, I now know that you lie.

Awww I'm struck!!! NOW you think I'm a liar?!! After all this time of you treating me like a murderer, I can't see how you could possibly think I would care whether you think I'm a liar or not.

You went for the big hate too earlier. Once you tell someone you think they are callous towards human life - there really isn't much more you can say to them that will phase them.

Would you like to tell me that I molest children or talk at the theater?



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:54 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:


Would you like to tell me that I molest children or talk at the theater?


LOL....we'd never accuse you of talkin' at the theater...
*BAH-DUM-BUM*

I don't hate you Finn, I just trying to force you into a position where you'll make sense to me of your *seemingly* contradictory ideas of acceptable human loss...I could say that 5% of aborted pre-human cell clusters would grow up to be criminals and/or killers, so why defend that which you have no idea of the outcome of? (wow what a poorly constructed sentence...)
I just posit that to show how any loss of life can be twisted to be acceptable.
To give credit for having wisdom that surpasses that of you or I to government lackeys of mega corporations seem just a little too self-serving- you don't have the weight of conscious on you then, content that they are making fine decisions that we, the unenlightened masses, are incapable of.

In the end, I KNOW you care, what I really question the decision to trust in THEIR decisions.

Hope I'm understandable hereisall

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Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:


Would you like to tell me that I molest children or talk at the theater?


LOL....we'd never accuse you of talkin' at the theater...
*BAH-DUM-BUM*

That’s good. ‘Cause them’s fighting words.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I don't hate you Finn, I just trying to force you into a position where you'll make sense to me of your *seemingly* contradictory ideas of acceptable human loss...I could say that 5% of aborted pre-human cell clusters would grow up to be criminals and/or killers, so why defend that which you have no idea of the outcome of? (wow what a poorly constructed sentence...)
I just posit that to show how any loss of life can be twisted to be acceptable.
To give credit for having wisdom that surpasses that of you or I to government lackeys of mega corporations seem just a little too self-serving- you don't have the weight of conscious on you then, content that they are making fine decisions that we, the unenlightened masses, are incapable of.

In the end, I KNOW you care, what I really question the decision to trust in THEIR decisions.

Hope I'm understandable hereisall

Consider this: How many innocent people died directly because of Saddam Hussein’s brutal treatment of the Iraqi people? How many people died in the wars of expansion that he fought? To punish Hussein the international community sanctioned his regime, yet this resulted in even more dieing because Hussein used these sanctions to punish his own country just to defy the international community. Why don’t I accuse you of being callous of human life because you didn’t want to remove Hussein? And it’s not because I think leaving him in power would have resulted in fewer death - I actually believe the war may very likely save lives. In fact over a 10 year period 1.2 to 1.5 million people died in Iraq due to sanctions according to the UN (or Hussein’s mistreatment of those sanctions.) That’s 0.6 to 0.75 million in 5 years - the same time we’ve been in Iraq, during which time far fewer then that have died. So we already have a net lives saved. You see, I can paint you as a son of a bitch for being against the war. So why do you think I don’t accuse you of being callous of human life because you don’t support the war?



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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