You people have no lives; Firefly/Serenity is just a piece of entertainment, y'know!!!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, June 26, 2008 21:48
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CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:24 AM

Y'all make like it's important or something- I think the word obsession applies here. There's a whole WORLD out there, yet y'all come here to talk and talk and talk about an old TV show/movie. I don't get it. I mean, sure I like it too, but really, I don't LIVE it!! I've only seen each ep like 12 times now, and the movie over 45, but that doesn't mean I'm obsessed like y'all...that's only, let me do the math here...90 hours for the movie...120 hours for the show...see, that's only 210 hours I've spent on this thing, and that's hardly....uh...like, uh, nine days..., so see...

Hmmmmm...

Maybe I need some gorram help

Serenityaholicisall

PHYRELIGHT

Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:31 AM

*hugs* Shhhhhhh! Shhhhhhh! Everything will be okay.

Darksiders can keep their cookies. We have better writers.

Grrr. Argghh.

Patiently waiting to see Cap'n Tightpants sing!

SIMONWHO

Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:53 AM

Oh dear, something's made Chrisisall angry.

We are not going to like him when he's angry.

FLATTOP

Sunday, June 22, 2008 2:41 AM

It's ok Chris, just pop in Our Mrs. Reynolds and breathe deeply.

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Sunday, June 22, 2008 7:13 AM

Good grief man! Pull yourself together! You are making a scene ol' boy!

Stiff upper lip and all that what, what!

KNIGHTREYEDER

Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:57 PM

Sorry to hear of your lament (?) but Firefly's league hardly rates as mere entertainment. It's a view of what real freedom would be like (freedom being something no one on this rock really has or fully understands). It's a view unlike anything we'll ever be able to achieve that's for sure.

Entertainment?! Harumph! More like a waking dream to me. Well, other than for the food......

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ECGORDON

Sunday, June 22, 2008 2:12 PM

Permaybehaps Chris just has too much time on his hands.

As for me, I think that any time anyone uses the terms "only" or "just" or "merely" entertainment in reference to Firefly, they are the ones in need of help, not those they are addressing.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:
Permaybehaps Chris just has too much time on his hands.

Actually, I just wanted to see some humerous replies

...and yeah, I had some time on my hands yesterday.

Seriously though, is 210 hours a lot for peeps on this site? Or is it about average?

Near-obsessed Chrisisall

NCBROWNCOAT

Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:13 PM

Chrisisall,

This site (and other Firefly/Serenity) sites have let me make friends with lots of cool people in real life and have lots of cool experiences.

I'm not sure but maybe you're on that list somewhere....*pats Chrisisall's hand like a mama*

http://fireflyfaninnc.livejournal.com/

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:

This site (and other Firefly/Serenity) sites have let me make friends with lots of cool people in real life

I really need to go to a convention or something.

Virtual Chrisisall

STILLFLYIN2

Sunday, June 22, 2008 3:39 PM

Chris - Honest answer - I don't keep track of how many times I've watched either the movie or the series, but since I have watched one or the other so many times in the time since they came out, it's got to be hundreds of times each. And I still enjoy them every time. And that doesn't count the thousands of times that I've played the music - series, movie, and fan based.

I don't think I'll do the math on how much time that adds up to.

Hmmm - Just thinking about it, I think I'll plug Firefly in right now.

ECGORDON

Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Seriously though, is 210 hours a lot for peeps on this site? Or is it about average?

I would say that is about average, but well below the amount of time I have spent either watching Firefly or Serenity, reading the comics, novelization and companion books, listening to the soundtracks, etc. Add to that the times I have been to a shindig, convention or CSTS screening, I am sure I am close to 500 hours by now.

But there is rarely an hour that has gone by since September 20, 2002 that I have not thought of Firefly in one way or another. I'm obsessed, but I am also very comfortable with that.

If anyone takes issue with that then it's their problem, not mine.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 22, 2008 4:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:

I would say that is about average, but well below the amount of time I have spent either watching Firefly or Serenity, reading the comics, novelization and companion books, listening to the soundtracks, etc. Add to that the times I have been to a shindig, convention or CSTS screening, I am sure I am close to 500 hours by now.

Well, comics, soundtrack, pouring over the Visual Companion, heck, I spent two hours just building a Serenity out of Legos...

Here's the real question: at the end of Serenity, when Mal is talking to River about love keepin' her in the sky- do you get all teary?
I do, every time.

The moderately-obsessed Chrisisall

WYTCHCROFT

Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

let me do the math here...
hours I've spent on this thing,

well, frakk! - on top of all the official out-lets (dvds, comics, novels, essays etc)

if i added up the time i spend voraciously reading firefly fan fic....
(and i really read a LOT, not just here) then -
oh, lord - i don't wanna - don't make me... eeeeeeee!...

CHAPTERANDVERSE

Sunday, June 22, 2008 6:17 PM

Phew! I have only seen the episodes about ten times each and the movie maybe 40 times...so that puts me in the normal category does it???

WHOZIT

Sunday, June 22, 2008 7:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Y'all make like it's important or something- I think the word obsession applies here. There's a whole WORLD out there, yet y'all come here to talk and talk and talk about an old TV show/movie. I don't get it. I mean, sure I like it too, but really, I don't LIVE it!! I've only seen each ep like 12 times now, and the movie over 45, but that doesn't mean I'm obsessed like y'all...that's only, let me do the math here...90 hours for the movie...120 hours for the show...see, that's only 210 hours I've spent on this thing, and that's hardly....uh...like, uh, nine days..., so see...

Hmmmmm...

Maybe I need some gorram help

Serenityaholicisall

Is STAR WARS, STAR TREK, 24 & HOUSE just entertainment? Sure they are, but still important to alot of people who love the charters and the storys, I care about the people on board Serenity even tho I know it's a TV show/film. I know BONES is TV show, but watch it hoping Booth & Bones hook up, even tho I know David B. is married in real life, but yet I hope.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, June 22, 2008 7:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I know BONES is TV show, but watch it hoping Booth & Bones hook up, even tho I know David B. is married in real life, but yet I hope.

Wow. I started this thread in fun...who knew it would come to this?
I hope you get well soon, Whozit. Talk to folks, get to know them & whatnot. There's a lot of peeps out there just as scared & lonely as you are.

Dr. Chrisisall

ANONYMOUS1

Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
Oh dear, something's made Chrisisall angry.

We are not going to like him when he's angry.

I think he is hungry. (see Incredible Hulk for inside joke) You wouldn't like him when he's hungry. Hungry for more Firefly/Serenity.

Help raise $150,000 or more for Joss Whedon's fav charity.

SAFEAT2ND

Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:20 PM

Uh-oh! Did someone say Chrisisall is angry?!?! Or even hungry?!?

Quick, batten down the hatches, hide your children!!

C'mon Toto, the storm cellar is this-a-way!!

I mean, anyone crazy enough to watch THAT much Firefly/Serenity is, indeed, one to fear.

That is all kinds of crazy... but wait... that means... *does the math by marking in the air and counting upon his fingers and toes*...

Aww CRAP!! I'm crazy too... sigh.. there goes the neighbourhood...

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Monday, June 23, 2008 12:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Seriously though, is 210 hours a lot for peeps on this site? Or is it about average?

I would say that is about average, but well below the amount of time I have spent either watching Firefly or Serenity, reading the comics, novelization and companion books, listening to the soundtracks, etc. Add to that the times I have been to a shindig, convention or CSTS screening, I am sure I am close to 500 hours by now.

But there is rarely an hour that has gone by since September 20, 2002 that I have not thought of Firefly in one way or another. I'm obsessed, but I am also very comfortable with that.

If anyone takes issue with that then it's their problem, not mine.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

Well I just can't count that high. 500 sounds right but I am afraid I still spent way more than that. Firefly I've watched at least 20 times. Serenity about 30 times. I am a shindigaholic and have met many many Browncoats.

Let's see:
2003
Vegas Shindig 3 days
Alligator Point 1 day
Atlantic City Shindig 3 days
LA Shindig 3 days
LA Comic Con FF DVD 1 day
2004
Vegas Shindig 3 days
Austin Shindig 3 days
Extra on Serenity 2 days
LA Comic Con met Alan 1 day
San Diego Comic Con 1 day
Browncoat Ball Chicago 3 days
First Serenity Test Screening 3 hours. (Not telling anyone was hard.)
GenCon 2 days
2005
WonderCon 1 day
Vegas Shindig 3 days
Grand Slam Pasadena Happy Hour 2 hours
May Serenity Screenings 2 days
June 23 Serenity Screening
Versal Shindig 1 day
San Diego Comic Con 3 days
Another Trip to Universal 1 day.
Browncoat Testimonials at Universal talking about how great Serenity 5 hours
Serenity Press Screening LA
Dragon-Con 3 days
NY Trip includes Spamalot and dinner with Browncoats 10 hours
Serenity Press Screening NY
Serenity Premier 8 hours
Fanfest at Universal 1 day
Flanvention 3 days
2006
Vegas Shindig 3 day
Grand Slam Breakfast 1 Day
Browncoat Funeral Just before Comic Con for Odile 1 day
San Diego Comic Con 3 days
Dragon-Con 4 days
Browncoat Ball San Francisco 3 days
Flan B - Browncoat Backup Bash- B3 3 days
2007
Vegas Shindig 3 days
Browncoat Wedding in Oklahoma 3 days
San Diego Comic Con 4 days
Dragon Con 4 days
Creation Firefly/Serenity Salute Burbank 1 day
Starfury LA 3 days
2008
Taping of Alan's Pilot

2008 has been a bad year.

See I can't count that high.

Then I think about the money I spent and I can't believe it.

Does this make me overly obsessed? I'm ok with that.

Can anyone do the math?

Rosie

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CHRISISALL

Monday, June 23, 2008 12:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous1:
Hungry for more Firefly/Serenity.

Ain't we just.

Burn Notice, Heroes, and Rescue Me are my in-production snacks. At least we get Dollhouse relatively soon, then I will dine well anew.

But nothing fills like Firefly....

Hungry hungry gorram Hippoisall

ZZETTA13

Monday, June 23, 2008 12:44 AM

Man walks in with a comment like that shows he ain't afraid of nothin!

Damn strait!

Chris you cracked a smile on my 'ol mug again

Z

ANONYMOUS1

Monday, June 23, 2008 12:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
At least we get Dollhouse relatively soon, then I will dine well anew.

But nothing fills like Firefly....

Hungry hungry gorram Hippoisall

You will dine well sooner than Dollhouse.

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PIRATECAT

Monday, June 23, 2008 1:13 AM

How dare you.
Here's your answer

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

EMBERS

Monday, June 23, 2008 1:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I really need to go to a convention or something.

Virtual Chrisisall

I saw the title of this thread, rolled my eyes and figured that chisisall must be at it again....

Personally I'm kicking myself for deciding to save money by not planning to attend Comic Con because we now know that Joss will be doing a panel on Friday (Dark Horse and Doctor Horrible, with Nathan and ALL the cast on stage with him) and on Saturday the Dollhouse panel w/Eliza Dusku!

*sigh*

But I am happy that I'm planning on going to the Creation convention where I'll get to meet Jewell & Ron (and get to see Adam Baldwin again)

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

ECGORDON

Monday, June 23, 2008 2:04 AM

Rosie, you win the prize! Just being an extra in Serenity trumps anything all the rest of us can claim.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

MISSTRESSAHARA

Monday, June 23, 2008 4:34 AM

Well, after a while the obsession goes away and becomes an occasional thing. Myself I haven't watched it (show or movie) in 4 years? But still love the characters. We move on, but I keep coming back here to read threads like these, and updates (if any)

You watched the movie 45 times? I've only watched it 3, then again I'm not a fan of it.

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SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, June 23, 2008 7:02 AM

Hey Chris,

Are you Alliance?

You had me going there for a minute. Good one.

But I would think that you're in the normal category with the number of viewings you mentioned. How many times have I seen Singing in The Rain or Some Like It Hot, Predator, The Matrix and now FF and Serenity.

It's not just entertainment for me. These movies are just plain fun, with a great story to tell. So Firefly and Serenity are just that - great and wonderfully told stories. It reminds me of when I was a kid telling ghost stories with all the lights off and getting the bajeezes scared outta ya'.

Good times!

Shiny! Let's be bad guys!

FIREFLYPASSENGER

Monday, June 23, 2008 7:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:
Rosie, you win the prize! Just being an extra in Serenity trumps anything all the rest of us can claim.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

That was just luck. A simple dream come true. I kept saying I wanted to be a part of it. Even getting the camera guy coffee. Then the opportunity came and was lucky enough to get a spot.

I will always love Christopher Buchanan for that.

CITIZEN

Monday, June 23, 2008 9:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Y'all make like it's important or something- I think the word obsession applies here. There's a whole WORLD out there, yet y'all come here to talk and talk and talk about an old TV show/movie. I don't get it. I mean, sure I like it too, but really, I don't LIVE it!!

Quite you or you get the hose again.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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CHRISISALL

Monday, June 23, 2008 1:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:

You watched the movie 45 times? I've only watched it 3, then again I'm not a fan of it.

It's officially my favourite movie of all time. The only other movies I seen more times are Star Wars & Enter The Dragon, and that's just cause they've been around a lot longer.
How could you not be a fan of it?
OK, I know...Wash....

Repetitive Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 23, 2008 1:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shinygoodguy:
Hey Chris,

Are you Alliance?

I have a mighty roar...

isall

SPACEVIKING

Monday, June 23, 2008 7:41 PM

yes yes your right it is just T.V show and the best at that. However obsessions are not really a bad thing hell they give me something to do and yes im sure most of the people on these boards has a life outside of them.

KANEMAN

Monday, June 23, 2008 8:13 PM

Don't know how many times I've watched it, but I am sure I've spent many nights sitting around in my boxers, long island iced-tea in hand, wishing the ending would change......seriously, why kill Wash?...I need a meeting.

WHOZIT

Monday, June 23, 2008 8:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
I know BONES is TV show, but watch it hoping Booth & Bones hook up, even tho I know David B. is married in real life, but yet I hope.

Wow. I started this thread in fun...who knew it would come to this?
I hope you get well soon, Whozit. Talk to folks, get to know them & whatnot. There's a lot of peeps out there just as scared & lonely as you are.

Dr. Chrisisall

Come to the chatroom sometime, we'll talk and I wo'nt be lonely.

MSB

Monday, June 23, 2008 8:59 PM

Yes Chris... come to Dragon Con( you know you want to)

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CHRISISALL

Monday, June 23, 2008 9:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:
Come to the chatroom sometime, we'll talk and I wo'nt be lonely.

LOL, man, you are one good sport, I'll tell ya!

Didn't see that one comingisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, June 23, 2008 9:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Yes Chris... come to Dragon Con( you know you want to)

Yes I do. My son would too...

Workisall

MISSTRESSAHARA

Monday, June 23, 2008 11:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:

You watched the movie 45 times? I've only watched it 3, then again I'm not a fan of it.

It's officially my favourite movie of all time. The only other movies I seen more times are Star Wars & Enter The Dragon, and that's just cause they've been around a lot longer.
How could you not be a fan of it?
OK, I know...Wash....

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No, not just Wash OR Book (everybody always forgets about him) it's inconsistancies (sp?) with the characters, time line issues, focusing too much on new characters (Mr Universe and those twins, time that could have gone more towards Inara, Book, Wash). It just..... things felt off, unbalanced and wrong. Now don't get me wrong, it is a good movie and maybe one day I'll pop it into the tray, but as it stands it's not something I can watch over and over like some films. To me the movie is a shadow of the greatness that is Firefly. But that's my opinion and I wouldn't force it on anyone or argue with those that love it.

Now if this was done over time, spaced out over a year in small doses, like maybe a second season, but we never got that and Joss just fit too much into a two hour span. And the characters especially paid for it. JMHO.

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Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:24 AM

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

SAFEAT2ND

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
No, not just Wash OR Book (everybody always forgets about him) it's inconsistancies (sp?) with the characters, time line issues, focusing too much on new characters (Mr Universe and those twins, time that could have gone more towards Inara, Book, Wash). It just..... things felt off, unbalanced and wrong. Now don't get me wrong, it is a good movie and maybe one day I'll pop it into the tray, but as it stands it's not something I can watch over and over like some films. To me the movie is a shadow of the greatness that is Firefly. But that's my opinion and I wouldn't force it on anyone or argue with those that love it.

Now if this was done over time, spaced out over a year in small doses, like maybe a second season, but we never got that and Joss just fit too much into a two hour span. And the characters especially paid for it. JMHO.

Whoa... That is exactly my take on it too!

Mal was too... and Inara
wasn't enough... and well.. you get my drift.

Still an excellent movie on it's own. And I currently own all three versions of it. That speak volumes on how much I dispised it

Please.. if you have to throw something, make it softish somethings...please??

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And I know that I said
I'd never do it again
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NCBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:30 AM

I actually hid my eyes and cringed when Wash got stuck by the Reaver rod at the Raleigh CSTS. And how many times have I seen it? Too many to count.

http://fireflyfaninnc.livejournal.com/

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 3:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

Yeah, I just don't see it that way. The characters were established in the series, it wasn't necessary to re-establish 'em in the movie. Only thing I missed was a warm & funny dinner scene- but given what was goin' down...not happening.

Loved itisall

RALLEM

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 3:41 PM

The next thing you'll be trying to convince me of is that Star Trek isn't real. Some people just don't have a grip on reality.

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CLJOHNSTON108

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:24 PM

Had me goin' there for a tick, Chris! Thought maybe you'd gone from Browncoat to Turncoat, like I've seen some do.
Good to see I was wrong!

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
It's officially my favourite movie of all time. The only other movies I seen more times are Star Wars & Enter The Dragon, and that's just cause they've been around a lot longer.

Well, actually, my all-time favorite is Steve McQueen's Le Mans. Must've watched that at least 237 times! (Wore out my table-top DVD player!)
First really super-realistic movie I saw as a kid — I've always been obsessed with the cinematography.
Somebody put together a great trailer for it...

PDCHARLES

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:37 PM

Well.... I just finished my life-sized Serenity model in my front yard made solely from old tires, play-doh, and milk safety seal strippers (my cat loves these).

You sir have seriously dampened my FF enthusiasm.

TRAEVYNN

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rallem:
The next thing you'll be trying to convince me of is that Star Trek isn't real. Some people just don't have a grip on reality.

Star Trek not real??? Blasphemy! Who is spreading these lies?

Rallem - I like your reality. Can I join you there?

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cljohnston108:

Well, actually, my all-time favorite is Steve McQueen's Le Mans. Must've watched that at least 237 times! (Wore out my table-top DVD player!)
First really super-realistic movie I saw as a kid — I've always been obsessed with the cinematography.

Love that flick- saw it in the theatre first-run.
Side note; it was directed by Lee H. Katzen, who also directed the pilot for Man From Atlantis.

Film-historian Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Traevynn:

Star Trek not real??? Blasphemy! Who is spreading these lies?

Romulan spies, no doubt

Starfleetisall

MSB

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:33 PM

OK so pack up the kiddo, reserve a room, book a flight and get out to D*C!!

Also I just bought a Serenity lunch box which I will proudly bring to work every day:)

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RALLEM

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Traevynn:
Quote:
Originally posted by rallem:
The next thing you'll be trying to convince me of is that Star Trek isn't real. Some people just don't have a grip on reality.

Star Trek not real??? Blasphemy! Who is spreading these lies?
Rallem - I like your reality. Can I join you there?

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"...I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me."

Sure you can

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CLJOHNSTON108

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Love that flick- saw it in the theatre first-run.

Do you have the DVD? The transfer is incredible!

Quote:
Side note; it was directed by Lee H. Katzen, who also directed the pilot for Man From Atlantis

Yep, and I think Katzin snuck a nod to Le Mans in there: When the French scientist steps out in her new racing-striped uniform and asks her colleagues, "Do I look like a Grand Prix driver?"
Katzin also directed the pilot for Space: 1999, and those uniforms had racing stripes, too!

RICKKER

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:49 AM

Definetly. Cons are awsome. http://www.creationent.com/cal/serenity.htm See you in November.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cljohnston108:

Do you have the DVD? The transfer is incredible!

I rented it...still wowed by the 'get away from the crash' scene; the cuts between slo mo & real speed were way before their time.

Quote:
I think Katzin snuck a nod to Le Mans in there: When the French scientist steps out in her new racing-striped uniform and asks her colleagues, "Do I look like a Grand Prix driver?"

OMG Cl, you REALLY know your flicks (I have that one on old-style videotape)!

The Chrisisall from Atlantis

CLJOHNSTON108

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I rented it...still wowed by the 'get away from the crash' scene; the cuts between slo mo & real speed were way before their time.

Yeah, that one image of the Ferrari driver's arm flailing out and the helmet visor spinning off in slo-mo really stuck in my mind as a kid, but a lot of the people I showed the DVD to just didn't "get" the jump-cuts. They'd ask if something was wrong with the film.
They asked the same thing during Inara's spongebath scene in Serenity. (Tryin' to bring this back on-topic!)
I've heard it said that Katzin pioneered "Bullet Time" when the Wachowski's were just toddlers.

http://www.donhollway.com/articles/lemans/index.html
http://www.anvilandsprocket.com/action/155

TRAEVYNN

Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:50 PM

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Originally posted by cljohnston108:
but a lot of the people I showed the DVD to just didn't "get" the jump-cuts. They'd ask if something was wrong with the film.
They asked the same thing during Inara's spongebath scene in Serenity. (Tryin' to bring this back on-topic!)

I'm thinking that Inara's bathing scene was distracting enough on it's own without the "jump-cuts". I wonder how many times they made Morena re-shoot the scene....

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Thursday, June 26, 2008 7:13 PM

I just felt compelled to reply here;

Finally someone else said it...now don't get me wrong I loves me some Firefly and the BDM but...

I too found some minor, and major, discomforts with the BDM.

Killing Wash! Arrrgghhh! (I'll get to Book in a moment). What possessed JW to do it. In the commentary he glosses over it about character arc, but not like that, not so abruptly without doing what made me fall in love with FF to begin with - character development. I agree that were it developed over a season or two on the series and then proceed into the BDM. But here I say, that the arc of Wash & Zoe (I really loved their dynamic) from the HOG ep where we find out Zoe wants a baby. That story arc alone would have been golden, just pure golden!!! There's more I have to say about Wash but i don't want to write a book here.

Book.....what was up with that. His story, Inara, the above-mentioned Wash & Zoe (I would have loved to have seen how they got together) were among the most interesting of all the characters. I used to think that River's story was but as I watch FF over and over again, well you know. JW hardly touches upon Book's story and then kills him off without so much as a how-do-you-do. There was an article that I read on line, a movie review from 2005, that touched upon the kill-off of Book; to paraphrase the reviewer stated that his death, however disagreeable to the fans, moved the plot along and provided Mal with motivation and resolve to carry forth the mission. As Mal stated, to fight the good fight on his terms. But he could not understand why JW would kill off Wash except as pure shock value.

In fairness, Joss did state that he had never written a movie script before and that it was the hardest thing he'd ever done. But thing did feel somewhat off-balance and off-kilter. BTW I loved the intro of both Mr. Universe and The Operative (I see great things in his future with the crew and especially River) but not at the expense of my BDH. And that funeral at the end felt so tacked on. It didn't do our heroes any justice whatsoever. But I think Joss just forgot what made FF so great to experience - the characters and how they interacted with one another in each situation. Having said that, except for those few things I loved seeing our BDH back in action. I'm hoping against hope that we get to "complain" some more about the next movie in the not to distant future.

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You watched the movie 45 times? I've only watched it 3, then again I'm not a fan of it.

It's officially my favourite movie of all time. The only other movies I seen more times are Star Wars & Enter The Dragon, and that's just cause they've been around a lot longer.
How could you not be a fan of it?
OK, I know...Wash....

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No, not just Wash OR Book (everybody always forgets about him) it's inconsistancies (sp?) with the characters, time line issues, focusing too much on new characters (Mr Universe and those twins, time that could have gone more towards Inara, Book, Wash). It just..... things felt off, unbalanced and wrong. Now don't get me wrong, it is a good movie and maybe one day I'll pop it into the tray, but as it stands it's not something I can watch over and over like some films. To me the movie is a shadow of the greatness that is Firefly. But that's my opinion and I wouldn't force it on anyone or argue with those that love it.

Now if this was done over time, spaced out over a year in small doses, like maybe a second season, but we never got that and Joss just fit too much into a two hour span. And the characters especially paid for it. JMHO.

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Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:48 PM

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This site (and other Firefly/Serenity) sites have let me make friends with lots of cool people in real life

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I really need to go to a convention or something.

I hear ya.. though I would worry if and entire audience starting singing the Firefly theme I would lose it and get all choked up.