Is Jesse Ventura right?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, August 22, 2024 21:33
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Like most things, I give it all 50/50 either way. Is our government capable of purpitrating this on a lack of moral ground and on their competency? Sure... in the upper eschelons, which Duhbya obviously wouldn't have been a part of, even if for no other reason than deniability, our Government can be very competent and precise. And the truth is, each and every one of us are nothing but almost meaningless numbers and even in groups of 1,000's we don't amount to much in their eyes....
On the other hand...
We've been doing quite a lot of pissing on the wrong toes. It's all well and good to sit in judgment of everyone else when we're by far the only ones big enough to push everyone else around an pit the others against one another. Maybe these cave dwellers really put something that big together and caught us completely unawares. I mean, I'd like to think that if I were in a situation where I believed that dying for the cause of freedom from oppresive tyrrany were upon me that I would perform half as well under pressure. (And I'm sure that that comment is going to put me on a watch list if I'm not on one already and will be just as misconstrued as Bill Mahar's comment about their bravery was).
Then there's always a third way it could have gone down.... The cave dwellers put up a very impressive front, but in this scenario we knew about every detail about it with plenty of time in advance to interviene but instead chose to turn our backs on it... 7 years later becoming the country which employs 24% of its work force in millitary, police and other security positions. Ain't going to get people to let Big Brother in the door until you teach them to love him.
And I'm sure there are many other ways it could have gone. Funny thing here is, I'm kinda suprised at the sides that some people are taking in this thread. This topic seems to be unique in that regard.
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relative to how many Americans die in car crashes, or drowning in bath tubs, whatever... a few thousand people dying for a greater cause seems like a worthy sacrifice. sometimes i wonder if this type of outlook would be enough to politically justify a certain epic vision for America, or the world (the NWO)
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I was using pancaking in the way CTS seemed to be using it - to indicate floors falling straight down on each other.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Actually that depends on how you define “pancaking.” Pancaking such as the floors becoming detached from surrounding structure and falling on top of one another doesn’t appear to be consistent with observation. Pancaking such as the floors falling on top of one another under the force of gravity DID happen, however, and is consistent with observation. The distinction that NIST is making is where the “break” occurred, not that the floors didn‘t fall one another. That’s a far cry from your apparent previous assumptions.
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Added - since CTS made the claim that buildings (or structures) just don't pancake except during controlled demolitions, I thought (silly me) that by pointing out all the ways that buildings (and structures) do pancake and have pancaked naturally; and since others pointed out that by sheer physics buildings (and structures) do fall in their own footprint; it might introduce the possibility that indeed, the buildings could have come down the way they did without the help of a controlled demolition.
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As I was reading some of CTS's links, it occurred to me that the buildings were not brought down by controlled demolitions as proposed.
Now this is based not on expertise but on personal experience and, one hopes, some common sense.
I think we've all seen at least a half-dozen demolitions on TV. For a ring explosion, for example, what you hear is a quick, evenly-spaced series of explosions.
Like this: bang!bang!bang!bang!bang!bang!bang!bang!bang!bang!
Additionally, I lived in a city that was putting in a subway through granite bedrock - in fact I lived about 2 blocks from the line and terminus they were building. So for nearly a year I experienced, at least once a week, sequences of underground charges being set off.
Like this: (warning siren) boom..boom..boom..boom..boom..
Here's where the common sense comes in. The reason why they are so regular is because the crews need the results to be predictable. So they use uniform charges set off in a regular time sequence.
Finally, at one point I was hiking through some remote foothills here in California. I heard something that at first I thought sounded just like those underground construction explosions, I even briefly wondered to myself if there was any mining in the area. But on second thought, and applying some common sense, I realized it didn't really sound like any explosions I'd heard before. The reason was because it was highly irregular.
It went like this: thumpBAAAANG!!! ............................. boom!.boom
So even though I had literally never heard an earthquake that sounded like that before - or since - (they usually sound like a wave of freight trains coming across the landscape), and even though I felt no ground movement, I figured it had to be an earthquake b/c it was most definitely not human-caused. And that idea was confirmed by seeing all the pebbles on up to boulders on the road on the way back, and hearing the earthquake reports when I got out of the hills and back into broadcast range.
None of the accounts indicates the kind of uniform, regular explosions you need to have if you want a controlled demolition.
Personally, I'm convinced there was no controlled demolition.
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but Larry King died of Covid?
U.S. Investigating Americans Who Worked With Russian State Television
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/technology/us-fbi-russia-election-d
isinformation.html
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