Is there a better TV iconic figure than Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

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THESOMNAMBULIST

Monday, March 17, 2008 6:19 PM

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I do love heroes, i saw the first season twice (cant belive i've just put that!) oh well its out there now! but so far the 2nd season has been a tad less ' wow ' for me too.

whats happened!!?

I'd hazzard a guess and say they were swept up with the success of it all and were caught off guard as to how much quality is demanded these days with a hit TV show. It is tough no doubt, and I hate to be so critical, because I'm trying to write my own show as we speak...well write anyway, and it is a really difficult thing to do. Once you establish a formula, which in itself is hard, you then have to fashion the following stories around that formula and not make it seem like the same thing. Even though it is the same thing because you need that formula in place so people can follow you, and you rarely deviate from it, unless it is to say 'look we're deviating from it' much like Buffy and the episodes 'The Body' 'Restless' and 'Hush'. Primarily though you stick to the formula week in week out.

What you mustn't do though I believe, is contradict where you've taken the audience previously, unless it is to establish a narrative conclusion. If however you go back and forth as was done with Heroes (in particular with Claires father) the contrivances breakdown the legitimacy of the story. This was the trouble I always had with the Star Trek Next Generation. The threat to the Enterprise was often so severe there seemed to be no way out, then in the last two minutes someone would do a 'double matrix binary overload to the main engine couplings' and all would be saved! Huh?!

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hope they sort it out.

Yes me too. I liked alot of the characters especially the cop.

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ohh, and i must say indie with the hat and whip really is a good one!! i didnt think of that!

lookin forward to the new one. Is shia lebouf playing indie's son?

Yes looking forward to Indy four. Not sure what part Shia LeBeouf will be playing. I'm just glad they have brought back Karen Allen. She was a huge part of why Raiders was so enjoyable in the first place.

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 17, 2008 8:23 PM

If Heroes stayed as good as it's first season, or if it regains that in subsequent seasons, it may have a shot of being as good as Buffy...but face it everyone, as multi-season, multi-character series go, Buffy is the Queen of all shows (This from a die-hard Dark Angel fan, no less).
You can't count Firefly in that btw, it didn't even have a full season.
Only Northern Exposure is anywhere near Buffy, and misses mainly because of it's last season not being able to tie things us as lyrically as the prior seasons suggested it might have.

So says Chrisisall

THESOMNAMBULIST

Monday, March 17, 2008 8:34 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
If Heroes stayed as good as it's first season, or if it regains that in subsequent seasons, it may have a shot of being as good as Buffy...but face it everyone, as multi-season, multi-character series go, Buffy is the Queen of all shows (This from a die-hard Dark Angel fan, no less).
You can't count Firefly in that btw, it didn't even have a full season.
Only Northern Exposure is anywhere near Buffy, and misses mainly because of it's last season not being able to tie things us as lyrically as the prior seasons suggested it might have.

So says Chrisisall

Ohhh thems good words Big 'C' well said.

I think Heroes is going to struggle to reclaim it's first seasons status by the very fact that they did everything in that first season. They should just have saved the Cheerleader... The 'Saving the World' should have come much later, after the key 'Heroes' had developed some kind of relationship.

EMBERS

Monday, March 17, 2008 9:12 PM

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Chris...... I don't know why but that image don't sit well with me ?

I agree... Buffy ain't no Playboy Bunny!

I also agree that she is one of the greatest iconic figures. I've loved a lot of shows, but when it comes to rewatching many many times and always finding it full of depth and holding my interest, no other show holds up (for me) like BtVS.

Doesn't mean I won't watch and enjoy many other things (right now I'm in love with Dexter, go figure).

New Firefly fans should check this out: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=15816

BLUEREDGREEN

Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:46 AM

Better then Buffy? Nope.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Sunday, August 17, 2008 2:34 AM

kojack and his lollipop
Magnum and his grin
The five oh wave
Arnolds

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"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

LISSA

Sunday, August 17, 2008 3:28 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
If Heroes stayed as good as it's first season, or if it regains that in subsequent seasons, it may have a shot of being as good as Buffy...but face it everyone, as multi-season, multi-character series go, Buffy is the Queen of all shows (This from a die-hard Dark Angel fan, no less).
You can't count Firefly in that btw, it didn't even have a full season.
Only Northern Exposure is anywhere near Buffy, and misses mainly because of it's last season not being able to tie things us as lyrically as the prior seasons suggested it might have.

The only show that I think can rival Buffy...is Angel! Probably one of the most underrated shows ever, too.

~lissa, retired spwhore

LWAVES

Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:12 PM

Assuming that we are going for a visually iconic character and not someone who has the right ideals and does the right thing all the time then I don't think you can beat Buffy at the minute. Although Buffy fits the bill on the other counts as well. Only time will tell if someone will come along later.

I would like to add The Doctor to the mix and I would put forward the only real contender to Buffy. From a look point of view Tom Baker's Doctor with his big coat and long striped scarf is a good image. He also fits the other points as well, he does what no one else can, even if the cost is great, to make things right.

Reaching over to movies then:
Indy is an obvious first choice.
James Bond holding his PPK is another.
Ripley in the powerloader from Aliens (an absolute classic scene).
Batman as a silhouette in the dark.
The Man With No Name. Hat, cheroot, poncho and steely blue eyes.

"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

THESOMNAMBULIST

Monday, August 18, 2008 9:12 PM

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kojack and his lollipop

Yes. I had forgotten about Kojack and his lollipop. It's a strong contender indeed.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Monday, August 18, 2008 9:16 PM

Originally posted by lissa:

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The only show that I think can rival Buffy...is Angel! Probably one of the most underrated shows ever, too.

Yes, Angel is very underated. I love the themes in Angel. Currently re-watching Angel season one, and I love how funny it is. I know most people love 'unshaven, cool, demon slayer Wesley' but I like him more slapstick and comical.

I just love the way he wedged that axe in the wall when trying to impress Cordelia's girlfriends. Cracked me up!

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