FLEE CALIFORNIA!
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UPDATED: Wednesday, August 26, 2026 01:05
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JAYNZE posted links to the MANY destructive brush and forest fires that CA experienced over decades. In response I posted this
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Gavin Newsom, smiling and wiggle dancing while talking about the fires?
That's just creepy.
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CA has a LONG history of fires and it's not bc of "Democrats".
POOR/NO FOREST MANAGEMENT
And it's not California that's the problem!
Of the 33 million acres of forested land, approx 57% of CA forested land is under FEDERAL management.
Another 24% are non-corporate privately owned, and 90%+ of those are under 500 acres. (Probably people who own homes or lots up in the mountains).
About 16% is owned by corporations or various business or financial interests (logging, REITS, etc)
ONLY 3% IS OWNED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
Federal forest (mis)management lurched from Smokey the Bear "stop every forest fire", which allowed an unnatural accumulation of fuel, to "let it burn" (1972-1988) to -currently- fire prevention but only where it impacts homes, businesses, and infrastructure. And they're doing a piss-poor job of even that.
IF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS TRULY INTERESTED IN CLIMATE CHANGE, THEY WOULD IMMEDIATELY START RAMPING UP FUNDING FOR WILDLAND MANAGEMENT. IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST 10X WHAT IT IS NOW.
POOR LAND USE PLANNING.
People just LOVE to nestle their homes among the trees. BUT SERIOUSLY, FOLKS ... IN NARROW BRUSH AND TREE COVERED CANYONS IN SO CAL??
'Nuff said.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58056&p=2
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Quote:Video: This couple's fire-resistant home survived the LA wildfires
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Assuming these aren't manipulated photosQuote:
One house survived when everything around it burned to the ground.
https://www.urbansplatter.com/2025/01/how-one-home-survived-the-palisa
des-fire-a-testament-to-fire-resilient-architecture/
https://www.urbansplatter.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/fire2.avif
Amid the ruin of charred homes and blackened hillsides left devastated by the Palisades Fire, stands a home that held out against the flames and smoke that blanketed northwest LA last week.
Architect Michael Kovac prioritized sustainability and wildfire resilience when he designed the home in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood. He has lived there with his wife, Dr. Karina Maher, since 2010.
https://metro.co.uk/video/this-couples-fire-resistant-home-survived-la
-wildfires-3351921/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I'm sure it was made by magic.
Or maybe they just got lucky like the Quaid family did and the fire just missed them.
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Quote:There's no way we're going to stop people from rebuilding in fire-prone areas, but there's something we can do: insist that new homes be hardened against fire.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm sure it was made by magic.
Or maybe they just got lucky like the Quaid family did and the fire just missed them.
Here's the thing: In fires like the ones in LA, most of the damage is caused by showers of burning embers that are blown into neighborhoods by strong winds and then spread from there. These embers can travel a mile or more, so clearing brush at the wildland-urban interface won't do much when winds are as heavy as they were last week. The only thing that works is hardening every house within a mile or two. This includes things like fire-retardant roofs and siding, automatic sprinkler systems, cleared zones around property lines, and so forth. And it has to be done universally for it to be effective.
So yes to streamlining rebuilding permits, but with one exception: every house has to be rebuilt to fire-hardening standards. This costs money and won't be popular, and for that reason it probably won't get done. But it's the only real answer. If we ignore it, this will happen all over again no matter how many airplanes we buy or how big our reservoirs are.
The LA Times ran a good piece about this a few days ago based on interviews with Jack Cohen and Stephen Pyne, a pair of experts on urban fires. Here's an excerpt:
“The assumption is continually made that it’s the big flames” that cause widespread community destruction, [Cohen] said, “and yet the wildfire actually only initiates community ignitions largely with lofted burning embers.”
Experts attribute widespread devastation to wind-driven embers igniting spot fires two to three miles ahead of the established fire. Maps of the Eaton fire show seemingly random ignitions across Altadena.
“When you study the destruction in Pacific Palisades and Altadena, note what didn’t burn — unconsumed tree canopies adjacent to totally destroyed homes,” he said. “The sequence of destruction is commonly assumed to occur in some kind of organized spreading flame front — a tsunami of super-heated gases — but it doesn’t happen that way.”
“In high-density development, scattered burning homes spread to their neighbors and so on. Ignitions downwind and across streets are typically from showers of burning embers from burning structures.”
....The 1991 Tunnel fire in the Oakland and Berkeley Hills marked the start of the modern era of urban fires, destroying 2,843 homes. More recently, fires devastated Gatlinburg, Tenn., in 2016, the towns of Superior and Louisville in Colorado in 2021 and Lahaina, Hawaii, two years ago.
“It’s not just a California quirk,” Pyne said. “California, I think, gets there first in exaggerated forms, but this is a national issue. And, in fact, it’s becoming an international issue.”
....“We don’t necessarily need a trillion-dollar program and a fire czar to get control of the fire problem,” Pyne said. “What we need are a thousand things that tweak the environment in favorable ways such that we can prevent these eruptions.” For example, municipal and fire prevention agencies must give property owners advance — and continual — warnings to clear dead vegetation and to wet dry brush within 10 feet of the house with periodic, prolonged sprinklings.
https://jabberwocking.com/streamline-rebuilding-after-the-la-fires-yes
-but/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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What a dumb ass.
Nothing was going to save those homes.
And I'm sure Kevin is more than happy to see the prices of new homes go up another 35% after being forced through all the new regulations California makes because none of them can do their job or ever take the blame for their repeated failures.
Shut the fuck up Kevin.
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Fire hardened homes survive firestorms, just like earthquake-resistant buildings survive moderate quakes, and hurricane resistant homes survive hurricanes, and well-insulated homes are more comfortable in blizzards.
It's not rocket science.
There are a couple of options.
The first is to let people build whatever the hell they want, without the expectation of being saved by first responders, or insurance. Bc if the emergency is widespread enough ... firestorm, hurricane, earthquake, flood, blizzard... well, face it, honey. YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN.
The second is to have a "nanny state" take responsibility for you, tell you what you can and can't do, but have protection, or at least rescue, from disaster.
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'California Exodus 2.0': Patrick Bet-David shreds state's liberal leadership
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6367108295112
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Moss Landing battery fire: A ‘Three Mile Island’ for key renewable energy industry?
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2025/01/17/moss-landing-battery-fire-rene
wable-energy-industry/
Northern California lithium battery storage plant catches fire — and it’s not the first time
https://www.dailynews.com/2025/01/17/moss-landing-power-plant-fire-eva
cuations-road-closures/
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UCLA
https://x.com/kimchibator1/status/1885545342512619587
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Pronoun use at center of rape case involving former prisoner in California
https://abc7chicago.com/post/pronoun-use-center-rape-case-involving-fo
rmer-chowchilla-central-california-womens-facility-prisoner-tremaine-carroll/15696730/
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