Buffy season six: Admit it peeps, a woman taking sexual control threatens you, doesn't it?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:15 PM

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Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
Do you think Buffy was in control there?

Physically, she was always 100% in control, emotionally, not so much. She started it, only to feel swept away, to feel SOMETHING.

Non-judgemental Chrisisall

SERENITYINSCOTLAND

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
Do you think Buffy was in control there?

Physically, she was always 100% in control, emotionally, not so much. She started it, only to feel swept away, to feel SOMETHING.

Non-judgemental Chrisisall

Always 100% physically in control? How about 'Seeing Red'? Spike gets pretty close to raping Buffy, with her putting up (excuse the term) pretty girly struggles. And emotionally, Buffy was never in control. In the sense I don't think she never wanted to do what she was doing with Spike, but was compelled to. Someone compelled is not someone in control.

As always, great topic Chris. Can't talk anymore tonight, going drinking. Perils of working as a scotch whiskey tour guide. Have a good one guys.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:55 PM

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Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:

Always 100% physically in control? How about 'Seeing Red'? Spike gets pretty close to raping Buffy, with her putting up (excuse the term) pretty girly struggles.

It was by the grace of whatever special feeling she might have had for Spike (shagging him and all) that she didn't flat-out KILL him in that bathroom- she let it go on like that because some part of her couldn't believe he'd push it as far as he did. If she just pounded him (like she was capable of doing) it wouldn't have had that realistic date-rape jarring quality.

A point maybe, if you tell someone to brush your hair, even though you don't particularly WANT your hair brushed, just getting someone to do as you say is control, the kind I'm talkin' about, anyway.

Don't forget to take vitamins to reduce hangover

Chrisisall

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:37 PM

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Always 100% physically in control? How about 'Seeing Red'? Spike gets pretty close to raping Buffy, with her putting up (excuse the term) pretty girly struggles.

"because I stopped you, something I should have done a long time ago..."

she always could have stopped him, she just didn't want to enough.

I don't actually think she was in control but it was still an exercise in control, practice. she was growing up and finding her feet and her power. a lot of people use things that aren't completely healthy to take control, like sex, food, work, exercise, drugs, shopping, self harm, counting things, anything that will help you get a grasp on life...

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AURAPTOR

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:44 PM

I like a woman on top.

But per your Buffy reference, I can't overlook the fact that she came back, as Spike said, 'wrong'. She couldn't grasp what it was, and I'm not sure if we ever knew for certain, but in dealing w/ having been brought back, she had some issues she had to work out. Hell, I've known plenty of women who didn't go through anything so drastic as being brought back from the dead who deal with their own issues in similar fashion.

I'm always wiling to lend a helpful ear, or what ever body part is required.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

CHRISISALL

Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:35 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hell, I've known plenty of women who didn't go through anything so drastic as being brought back from the dead who deal with their own issues in similar fashion.

Exactly.
And seeing Riley getting sucked on by vamps was more unsettling that anything Buffy did with Spike IMO.

Ewwwue Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:47 PM

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Originally posted by charliethebloody:
a lot of people use things that aren't completely healthy to take control, like sex, food, work, exercise, drugs, shopping, self harm,

My stepson went through a period from 20-22 where he did suspensions- sort of a drastic medatative (and somewhat bloody) thing *still shivers*
So seeing post-shag Buffy all scratched up and disheveled under a carpet didn't shock me so much...

Note: That was a few years ago, he doesn't do that any more now, he's got bills to pay now- like rent and such

Liking the sex thing better Chrisisall

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:23 PM

Nah... Big 'C' - women are ALWAYS in control anyway :D

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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:03 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Nah... Big 'C' - women are ALWAYS in control anyway :D

There's feminists that would disagree with that statement.
But it's true as far as Mrs.'C' goes...

Fool for love Chrisisall

ZEEK

Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:44 PM

I'm rewatching season 6 right now actually. I don't see Buffy as in control at all. She could physically stop Spike, but he could physically walk away from the relationship. Those aren't in any way considered control to me.

Really I'm noticing how the season is really about the two different paths. Willow is on the path to getting better and accepting consequences. Buffy is out of control and can't stop. I don't think she comes off as strong in season 6 at all.

Her relationship with Riley is the one I'd put her in the driver's seat. She used him that whole time. He even knew she didn't love him. Anytime she wanted a little somethin somethin that's when she'd go find him. Anytime she didn't he was kicked to the curb.

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