Jerry Falwell dead at 73
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Sunday, May 20, 2007 16:55
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I thought old Jerry was alright. I never thought he was all that bad. Well maybe the teletubby thing was over board. The only knock I ever heard were from people who worked for him said he was tight on raises and alittle forgettable on owed services.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Now if some bigwig ayatollah were to call for someone to blow away Bush in the same of Allah, I'll bet Finn would get a might tetchy. Prolly want to nuke 'em all to hell.
That's what comes of not having perspective. Or insight into one's definitions.
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Always look upstream.
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Quote:I don’t think its hate speech when anyone says it. The “group of someones” Falwell was talking about blowing away weren’t innocent dough-eyed little children and baby seals. Falwell was talking about terrorists who kill Americans. Strange that you left that little bit out. I’m not going to say that I thought his comments were intelligent, but they aren’t hate speech and it strikes me as dishonest to portray it that way.
Originally posted by rue:
When you call for someone or a group of someones to be killed it's hate speech. Not for god to take them home, or for them to leave this world, but for Bush specifically to 'blow them away in the name of the lord'. (just one example.) THAT'S what I have against Falwell, and which you consistently ignore. Or maybe you don't think that that's hate speech when Falwell says it, or says it in the name of religion.
I have my criticisms of the US and USers but please find me a quote where I say they, or anyone, should be killed.
Since these nine words taken out of context are what you claim to have against Falwell, it begs the rhetorical questions: how much of this hate that Falwell is accuseds of spewing is really his own words or just the spin put on them by his critics?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Saffr.. err.. Finn,... please, now you're just embarrassing yourself.
-F
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Now if some bigwig ayatollah were to call for someone to blow away Bush in the same of Allah, I'll bet Finn would get a might tetchy. Prolly want to nuke 'em all to hell.
That's what comes of not having perspective. Or insight into one's definitions.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=21366
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Originally posted by SignyM:
There ARE some people I fantasize about being slowly eaten by ants... eyes first...* . But our actions aren't sanitized or forgiven by pure motives** especialy if you're on the receiving end.
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Finn,
See, now you're excusing hate speech because someone else started it first. Hypocrititcal much?
PS In fact, you'll not find me called for anyone to be killed, for any reason. On the hate speech meter, I fall well below 'Falwell'.
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Quote:Did you catch the "but" in my statement? Apparently not! Because you clearly didn't understand my point that being "righteous" is no excuse for making other people suffer! That includes me, Finn, you, and Falwell.
There ARE some people I fantasize about being slowly eaten by ants... eyes first... But our actions aren't sanitized or forgiven by pure motives especialy if you're on the receiving end
So thanks for proving that I've been very consistent and for also demonstrating that you don't have friggin' clue as to what other people are saying. No matter than you must have spent about five hours hunting up that quote so you could take it out of context.
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Quote:I’m not excusing anything. It’s just not hate speech. And not going to be, regardless of how many time you accuse it. Hate speech is bigoted speech attacking or disparaging a social or ethnic group or a member of such a group. Terrorists attacking your country do not qualify, and suggesting that they should be killed is a not uncommon practice when dealing with terrorist attacking your country. This isn’t difficult. It doesn’t take a rocket scientists to understand these things.
Originally posted by rue:
See, now you're excusing hate speech because someone else started it first. Hypocrititcal much?
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
There ARE some people I fantasize about being slowly eaten by ants... eyes first... But our actions aren't sanitized or forgiven by pure motives especialy if you're on the receiving end
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Did you catch the "but" in my statement? Apparently not! Because you clearly didn't understand my point that being "righteous" is no excuse for making other people suffer! That includes me, Finn, you, and Falwell.
So thanks for proving that I've been very consistent and for also demonstrating that you don't have friggin' clue as to what other people are saying. No matter than you must have spent about five hours hunting up that quote so you could take it out of context.
See the difference now?
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