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Whedon & Minear Interview at CFQ

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UPDATED: Saturday, December 6, 2003 22:53
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Friday, December 5, 2003 9:40 AM

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Originally posted by Succatash:
Drakon, you disappoint me. Usually your posts are long and thoughtful.



Ah fear not. I was attempting levity, pass it off as a symptom of my giddy expectation of the movie, and the DVD fest later this week.

Look, Joss is writing it, and he knows his stuff. I am quite confident that he can pull it off. Most of the folks in history are life size, not bigger. Some even go on to save the world, or alter it in some manner that no one expected, (and even a few said could not be done.)

In a few days we'll mark the 100th anniversery of a couple of Ohio bicycle mechanics with a perchance for kites conducting the first successful flight of a heavier than air aircraft. Just a couple guys from Ohio, and they changed the world.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Friday, December 5, 2003 10:39 AM

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Originally posted by shambleau:
Maybe the larger-than-life thing is actually a drawback. It ups the production costs if you make it epic. Universal might take a chance more easily on a smaller, less costly film.

shambleau



Star Wars, the first and original one, was a "larger than life" story about a boy and his robots, who ended up saving more than one world. Yet that cost only 10 million dollars to make in 1977. Not sure what that is in todays money, but Hollywood has seen a string of big budget flops over the past several seasons. Plus you have the added money saving in advancements in special effects, which can make even home movies look epic in scale.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Friday, December 5, 2003 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by KernelM:
"Save the world" doesn't really make much sense in the context of the Firefly 'verse. Really, what world would you be talking about? To Mal, Serenity pretty much is his world. I think Joss is being much more metaphorical than literal, even if he's telling the truth. I've learned to take anything Joss says (with regard to future plot developments) with a grain of salt.



Bingo! Plus that line reminded of the old joke,
"Save the universe, collect all five"

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Friday, December 5, 2003 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Succatash:
Hmmm, good stuff to think about.

About the "Dude, Where's my Car" logic: It seems most people actually like crappy movies and crappy TV shows. Why did Firefly get cancelled? It makes no sense, and I agree with your logic, but for some reason the Entertainment industry seems to be working backwards.



I don't think it is that. People like crap because they want to escape from thinking.

We have to think about all kinds of stuff each and every day. Will the car start, if not, how do I get to work and/or fix the car? Where are the kids at this hour? What are the Chinese up to with regard to North Korea and will I get nuked in the next few minutes?

Sometimes you just want to say "Stop!" and go to the movies and relax, let the story wash over you, escape from the concerns of the day. So what you and I would call crap, sells, as escapist fare.

Firefly, well look at the discussions on this board. (Actually look at a lot of Joss Whedon's stuff.) Its never about what it is about. There is always some underlying theme, or point in all of it, even if it is by mere display.

Some of us can't help attempting to divine the secrets of the universe from a bubble gum wrapper. But most folks want just a great adventure story, or comedy, or sex. Which require no thinking at all.

As to a second civil war, would have to look at economic factors, as well as military. I don't think the Alliance can long survive, as it is hard enough to govern a disparate and diverse population on a single continent. Imagine trying to do that with folks strewed about the stars? 70 worlds under a single government? Either that government has a Death Star in their hip pocket, or some other terrible hold on power. Add to the mix the fact they have an aristocracy, i.e. a class system, they are bound to break up sooner or later.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Friday, December 5, 2003 1:29 PM

Drakon, that was a little more generous that I'd have put it, but it seemed right on target. My brother's a smart guy, but when it comes to movies or television he just doesn't want anything challenging. He wants to pop open a beer and laugh at Jim Carrey making fart jokes - but he hated "The Truman Show". He has intellectual capacity, he just doesn't derive entertainment from using it. Does that make him a bad person? Well, yeah, but he has other redeeming qualities so it kind of balances out.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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Friday, December 5, 2003 2:18 PM

Ok here's a thought......Where's today's installment. I'm addicted to reading this gorram thing. I need my fix and no fix. Must have next part of interview. Rage taking over....

You think I look good now, wait till you see me in my new "Browncoat T-shirt"

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Friday, December 5, 2003 9:27 PM

FYI....

Joss and Tim's Firefly episode guide part 2
http://64.5.52.62/%7ecfqcom/nuked/modules.php?name=News&file=article&s
id=169



Joss and Tim's Firefly episode guide part 3
http://64.5.52.62/%7ecfqcom/nuked/modules.php?name=News&file=article&s
id=180



mattro

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Saturday, December 6, 2003 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Drakon, that was a little more generous that I'd have put it, but it seemed right on target.



I was not trying to be generous, I was trying to hit the target.

Look, if everyone were the same, nobody would be different. For some of us, thinking about great cosmic stuff, like philosophy, the meaning of life, why the Cubs can't get to the world series, some of us like that kind of stuff. Some folks don't, they like different stuff, are just tired and/or want to be entertained.

Some in the first group like to think we are better than them. But I don't think better comes into it. They live and breathe, and are happy with their lives, just as we are with ours. Its just different.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

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Saturday, December 6, 2003 10:53 PM

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Some in the first group like to think we are better than them. But I don't think better comes into it. They live and breathe, and are happy with their lives, just as we are with ours. Its just different.


Actually there's an increasing bulk of evidence showing that people with lousy artistic taste are genetically inferior and a hazard to the environment. Promoting intelligent entertainment is a moral imperative and we must not rest until our nation is cleansed of the evil influence of bad television.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

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