Whedon & Minear Interview at CFQ
POSTED BY: Sarahetc
UPDATED: Saturday, December 6, 2003 22:53
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Universal is waiting for DVD sales results.
I don't doubt that. No matter what Universal thinks of the project's nature, they want to make sure they will profit from it.
I agree. It makes sense that Universal would want to wait to see what sales are like for the DVD through the end of the year and perhaps the first quarter of 2004 before they make a decision.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:Quote:
Originally posted by GThing:Quote:
Universal is waiting for DVD sales results.
I don't doubt that. No matter what Universal thinks of the project's nature, they want to make sure they will profit from it.
I agree. It makes sense that Universal would want to wait to see what sales are like for the DVD through the end of the year and perhaps the first quarter of 2004 before they make a decision.
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
Then this is our chance to really make a difference! Buy all your friends and relatives Firefly DVDs for Christmas! Get them to buy all their friends Firefly DVDs. Ask the Suncoast/SamGoody/Warehouse/Blockbuster/etc salespeople if they "still have any Firefly DVDs left" every time you go to the mall. Let's sell out those DVDs and get this movie made! (and then get this show back on TV!)
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It's depressing to me that the show isn't green-lighted. As you-know-who says, how come it never goes smooth?
From what I understand, sales at Amazon put us roughly 50th for DVD sales right now. Is that enough? I'm gonna have to stress about this during Christmas, as if that by itself didn't stress me out enough?
Maybe the larger-than-life thing is actually a drawback. It ups the production costs if you make it epic. Universal might take a chance more easily on a smaller, less costly film.
Although you'd think they'd be fairly secure if they'd just looked at the various tv eps Joss has done. You can't guarantee audiences will come for almost any film, but at least you can guarantee that the direction and writing will be tops. What else do they need? Don't answer that, I'm already semi-depressed.
shambleau
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"Save the world" doesn't really make much sense in the context of the Firefly 'verse. Really, what world would you be talking about? To Mal, Serenity pretty much is his world. I think Joss is being much more metaphorical than literal, even if he's telling the truth. I've learned to take anything Joss says (with regard to future plot developments) with a grain of salt.
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Originally posted by KernelM:
"Save the world" doesn't really make much sense in the context of the Firefly 'verse.
In the past, the crew of Serenity did small jobs like helping whores and stealing medicine and just trying to survive.
Now, according to Joss, they will "save the world." I don't think the question, "Which world?" is the most important one to ask. It seems obvious that Joss is speaking metaphorically. To "save the world" is an expression, meaning to save a TON of people, to save life as they know it, perhaps even the essence of humanity itself. Something BIG.
Hmmm, I wonder if Serenity crew will do a job in the movie, then realize that the illegal cargo has universal (no pun intended) ramifications.
Maybe some weapon against the Reavers?
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Originally posted by Succatash:
Hmmm, I wonder if Serenity crew will do a job in the movie, then realize that the illegal cargo has universal (no pun intended) ramifications.
Maybe some weapon against the Reavers?
"It's a Callahan, full-bore, autolock, customized-trigger, double cartridge thorough gauge. This here's my very favorite civilization ray."
If the Reavers come anywhere near Serenity, they just shoot them. Politely.
I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case
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i think everyone is sweating the small stuff. if hollywood can make "dude, where's my car?", why wouldn't they want to make a "firefly" movie? also, i think you're all missing an obvious movie premise: the resurgence of an independent rebellion against the dreaded alliance. i mean, doesn't the original pilot for the show kind of write the movie by itself? parallel to "star wars". anyone agree/disagree?
humble
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Hmmm, good stuff to think about.
About the "Dude, Where's my Car" logic: It seems most people actually like crappy movies and crappy TV shows. Why did Firefly get cancelled? It makes no sense, and I agree with your logic, but for some reason the Entertainment industry seems to be working backwards.
Your idea of a second civil war is interesting. It could be a way to introduce the whole Alliance vs Browncoat situation in a way that is also new for fans.
Deep down, I don't like it though. I like the Mal who's lost faith and hope. I like the Serenity crew that's still recovering from the first war, stepped on and beaten up and scrapin' by. To me, that IS Firefly.
If the Alliance falls, then Serenity wouldn't have to "keep flying." And I don't think Universal would want a story about the good guys losing. Mal has to win.
Humble, if the new movie is about a second civil war, how do you think the movie would end?
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i don't think the first movie would have to "end" per se. maybe just a subtle move in another direction but keeping with the spirit of the show. some sort of underground subversive movement against the alliance. in the pilot, simon gets river out of the "school" she was in with the help of undisclosed person(s). i like the idea of rebellion because it helps to bring further audience appeal to the show. you know, how people like to root for the underdog (like in the original rocky). also, if the story of nine people is to have continuity, (they can only have so many adventures in space before you start reaching for plausible story lines) you really need an underlying unifying cause that connects all the characters and brings them together towards a sort of light at the end of the tunnel. furthermore, this gives a realistic tie-in with resumption of possible tv series continuation/further movies (maybe a trilogy). what i was ultimately shooting for was that the series was supposed to start off with some adventures to get the audience familiar with the characters, but then grow outside the original parameters of the character-driven show towards something greater than the sum of its parts. look at babylon 5 for example. the first season was alright, but it wasn't until an enemy (the shadows) that threatened everyone that the show really began to get interesting. i mean, if you just have serenity running around having adventures all the time, staying one step ahead of the alliance, avoiding reavers, etc. you're basically using a "dukes of hazard" style of story telling. these are just some ideas off the top of my head, but if you look at any number of successful series (recently enterprise, b5, ds9, stv,etc) they all adopt similar story structure. you have to get something to interest/attract not only fans but NON-fans of the show and make them become invested in the fate of the characters on the show.
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Maybe they could fly into a subspace anomaly and be transported into a parallel timeline where they encounter themselves...
or..
Maybe they could encounter creatures with acid for blood that burst from ya gizzards..
or..
Maybe they discover the alliance is creating a "super weapon" call it oh I dont know a death star or something..
but seriously, I think whatever Joss decides will be way cool. I trust his better judgement.
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