Oh, everything's just dandy ...
POSTED BY: rue
UPDATED: Sunday, June 17, 2007 17:12
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Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
It appears that CCD started in the mid atlantic states. So it should come as no surprise that Penn and MAAREC would be amonst the first to address the problem. However, the internet is repleat with articles featuring UCD Apiculturist Eric Mussen being consulted on many of the studies all over the US. He is thought of as one of the top bee researcher's in the country. I'm starting to feel the undercurrent of a west coast vs. east coast pissing match starting here. So if I may jump to a conclusion, it's not expertise that determines who gets money, it's geography, for the moment at least. I may be wrong and will promptly admit it if I am.
So at this point the folks on the east coast who were the first to deal with CCD are consulting with the expert at UC Davis. Doesn't seem like a bad idea.
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From what I've found by speaking with a friend who works at UCD, They did have 3 full time professors in that dept, which means each prof gets a certain number of assistants, budget, etc....Some how it's been cut back to just one prof. And thats what the tv spot was all about, basically it was a..."we have the finest minds, a big problem, and only one prof to get started on it" story. People are being quiet about who is holding back funding. Which allows me to jump to one more conclusion...it's a UCD internal matter and nobody wants to make permanent enemies by blabbing. Of course I may be wrong and will promptly admit it if I am.
If the situation continues to get worse who's to say that some won't provide more bucks for UC Davis?
Note: Any errors in spelling or logic are due to mint julips consumed during the Kentucky Derby.
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There were reports 4-5 years ago of wild bee colonies collapsing in Minnesota. The estimates were 90% mortality across the state and spreading into other states. It wouldn't be too large a leap in logic to think that this 'sudden new' catastrophe is simply that what was going on in the wild has crossed over into commercial colonies and is now getting the attention it originally deserved.
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Originally posted by rue:
There were reports 4-5 years ago of wild bee colonies collapsing in Minnesota. The estimates were 90% mortality across the stae and spreading into other states. It wouldn't be too large a leap in logic to think that this 'sudden new' catastrophe is simply that what was going on in the wild has crossed over into commercial colonies and is now getting the attention it originally deserved.
Commercial bee colonies in N.Carolina are doing just fine. But your post fails to connect how this is a) a man made catastrophe or b) how it has anything to do w/ global warming....if it does at all.
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It doesn't have to be a man-made catastrophe or have anything to do with global warming. Just that it is a sufficient threat in a cluster of threats all with varying levels of uncertainty and lack of sufficent response.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Commercial bee colonies in N.Carolina are doing just fine. But your post fails to connect how this is a) a man made catastrophe or b) how it has anything to do w/ global warming....if it does at all.
Like anyone actualy proves anything here in RWED. Any person in here, liberal or conservative, can easily hunt down a set of links to present as thier evidence to "prove" thier case....plenty! of convincing official looking links! Ahhhhhh pretty.
What people should be asking themselves right now is...Am I searching for the truth to the questions in this thread, or am I more concerned with finding answers that validate my political stance on the issues. I still don't know why I expect anything less than "Nope! there ain't no such thang as global warmin'" rhetoric from conservatives.
And you can't change that by gettn' all bendy.
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For the record, for the first time ever, the fire season never ended in California. It just rolled from one year - through spring, summer, fall, and winter, into spring.
Meanwhile "Wildfires Burn in Dry Fla., Ga., Minn." http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Wildfires.html?_r=1&oref=slogin because it was a dry winter and a dry spring http://drought.unl.edu/dm/monitor.html .
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Originally posted by rue:
For the record, for the first time ever, the fire season never ended in California. It just rolled from one year - through spring, summer, fall, and winter, into spring.
Sort of been expecting that. More and more people there, and people cause most "wildfires" through arson, carelessness, sparking of downed power lines, etc. Also, when you keep putting out the small fires all you're doing is preserving fuel for the big ones. But since people insist on building their homes on the most fire-prone areas, you keep putting out the small fires. Sooner or later, something's gotta give.
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It has to do with the driest winter on record. Fire season is determined by moisture levels in vegetation, temperature, humidity, and wind. Houses, people, and fire suppression - not so much.
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Quote:http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/wsd/public_safety/drought_info/index.html
The 2006 autumn ended with very dry, and in some cases record drought conditions, throughout portions of B.C., notably the Peace River basin, the upper Fraser and Nechako, and the mid-Fraser and Thompson-Nicola areas. Those conditions changed dramatically in late October, when the first in a series of intense Pacific frontal systems moved onshore, bringing widespread, heavy precipitation onto the north coast and into northern B.C.. Following that, November and December produced a succession of intense frontal storms arising off the Pacific. These storm systems resulted in periods of flooding throughout the south coast and Vancouver Island, and resulted in most B.C. snowpacks being well above normal for January 1st.
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Quote:Yep. Breaking the previous 1923-24 record by 0.08".
Originally posted by rue:
It has to do with the driest winter on record.
Note also that 2004-2005 was the second wettest winter for LA since record-keeping started in 1877.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2005/california-storms200
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