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An Inconvenient Hypocrisy

POSTED BY: kaneman
UPDATED: Thursday, April 19, 2007 19:15
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KJW
Monday, March 5, 2007 4:43 PM

But here is the question...what would Gore have needed to do to be free from criticism? My guess is that no matter what he did he is going to be criticized for being hypocritical. So if we compare Gore to other people with massive houses, my guess is he is doing pretty darn well environmentally. Other people with massive houses who work from home he is probably doing even better. So where is the hypocrisy?

It was the same with Kerry a decorated war veteran who gets sidelined with these types of attacks. Obama right now is facing the same thing with his middle name and ethnicity being used to make him seem like a terrorist. Gore is strong on the environment and thus to marginalize him you make him seem hypocritical. Its political machinations and most everyone here falls right into it. It is also the same thing with labeling Bush an idiot. I may not like Bush's policies, but I don't think he is an idiot.

There are policy arguments and then character arguments, one is worthwhile the other is always a distraction from the policy issue.

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Monday, March 5, 2007 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by KJW:
But here is the question...what would Gore have needed to do to be free from criticism?

If he were to use half of what he's using, I for one wouldn't be criticising him (based on my calculation above). Probably he'd still get criticised, but that would be purely politically-motivated and therefore outside of many people's interest in the issue.
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So if we compare Gore to other people with massive houses, my guess is he is doing pretty darn well environmentally. Other people with massive houses who work from home he is probably doing even better.
Would be another interesting statistic to have, but I'm guessing this one would be very difficult to come by. Above I assumed three times the national average and I think that's still a bit high since one isn't living in most of the rooms of a 20-room mansion and most people (I assume) would turn off air-conditioning or heating in the rooms one doesn't use. I'd be surprised if my estimate is off by much.

By the way, welcome back to the boards, KJW. I see you haven't been here in a while; hope you stick around.



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KJW
Monday, March 5, 2007 5:38 PM

I am always here but usually I just amuse myself by reading the threads. :D

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Monday, March 5, 2007 6:15 PM

Why is anybody *B*O*T*H*E*R*I*N*G* to attack Al Gore?

He's an ex- VICE PRESIDENT, which, " if it ain't a public disgrace, it oughtta be."

He's not a candidate for 2008.

He lost the election in 2000. ( Well, sorta.)

And he's a tree hugger because he's stiffer than Simon Tam, remember?

Isn't he a washed up has been who never made it higher than Number 2?

What are folks afraid of from this person of no real influence?

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Monday, March 5, 2007 6:33 PM

I guess the main political goal of saying he's a hypocrite is so that the Republicans can say: "We may not have a great environmental policy, but hey look, the Democrats' main environmental guy is a huge hypocrite who doesn't care about the environment at all, so do you really think the Democrats care about the environment as much as they say they do? No, so you should vote Republican."



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Monday, March 5, 2007 10:00 PM

The unfortunate truth is that if the guy lived in an eco-shack in the woods, with solar everything and a zero carbon footprint people would lambast him as a tree hugging hippy weirdo. So he can't win no matter what he does. Typical case of if you dont like the message, shoot the messenger.

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Thursday, April 19, 2007 7:15 PM

Al Gore's green home improvements


NASHVILLE, Tennessee (AP) -- Former Vice President Al Gore's upscale neighborhood granted the environmental activist approval Tuesday to install 33 solar panels on the roof of his mansion.

The city of Belle Meade, Tennessee, had blocked his application until new rules were approved unanimously late Tuesday, said Gore spokesman Chris Song. The city, located within metropolitan Nashville, said the panels must be placed in areas where they can't be seen by neighbors.

Gore, who starred in the documentary film "An Inconvenient Truth" about global warming, already buys enough energy from renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and methane gas to balance 100 percent of his electricity costs. He is also upgrading the furnace, windows, and light switches, as well as installing new floor radiant heat and solar vents, to improve the home's energy standards, said Kalee Kreider, a Gore spokeswoman. The home, bought by Gore in 2002, is more than 70 years old and illustrates the challenges of renovating an older home to conserve more energy, Kreider said.

"It's obviously easier to build a green home from the get-go," she said. "When you purchase an older home, these retrofits take a lot longer."

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So, Gore bought a 70-year-old home in 2002, balanced his electricity consumption with green fuels, requested solar panels, and is retrofitting the house. So... what's the problem? Oh, yeah, It's Kaneman.

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