RE: Reagan the Hero- Iran/Contra; defend it if you can, NeoCon appologist morons!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, August 31, 2026 18:11
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:It was AURaptor that set me off in the Reagan Hero thread...see, he's like this likeable, friendly dude, until politics comes up, & he goes @!*#@ crazy waving the flag of the NeoCon agenda!!!! It makes me nuts that good folk can be swallowed up by the big lies!!!!
Originally posted by Causal:
Wow...but "morons."
We should all listen to Mal's words. A sensible Libertarian-like view.
*shaking off the mad* Chrisisall
Reagan was a hero, by all measure. You know not of what you speak. If ever I've tossed an ad hominem toward you, it's been a while, and I don't recall what it was. I'm wavering as to whether I can survive being branded a 'moron' by you, but if I make it through the night......
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life - Winston Churchill
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:He certainly meant well, I'll give ya that. Like another low IQ Prez that shall remain nameless (Hint: impressing his dad takes over where reason should prevail).
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Reagan was a hero, by all measure.
Quote:So, should I take that to mean funding the murderous Contras was a good thing? With drug money, because Congress wouldn't LEGALLY allow it, no less? History, son, you need to learn your history. It's there to read. Even sanitized as it is, it should direct you away from worshiping that particular false idol.
You know not of what you speak.
Quote:Go ahead, you biped, make my day.
If ever I've tossed an ad hominem toward you, it's been a while, and I don't recall what it was.
Quote:I didn't call you a moron, why, are you sign up for the position?
I'm wavering as to whether I can survive being branded a 'moron' by you, but if I make it through the night......
Search your feelings, AU, I sense the good in you, the NeoCons have not driven it from you fully. It's not too late...read history and be a force for good again (or don't, and be a cog in the machine, I'll still be nice to ya on the Buffy threads
)Cooling rods in place now Chrisisall
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He certainly meant well, I'll give ya that. Like another low IQ Prez that shall remain nameless
Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
Bush is the eternal rich frat boy when compared to Ronaldus Maximus. Stand the two side by side, and Reagan casts a shadow that covers BOTH Diddy Bush and his sons. Reagan was no 'low IQ Prez, but one with a brilliant mind.
Reagan was determined that communism would not take hold in Central America, as were those who served under him. If you think the media never slanted the news over what really went on down there, then don't bother replying. It's not nearly as 1 sided as you're lead to believe.
I don't have to 'read' history, I lived through it. I suspect you did to, but have closed your eyes to the whole truth.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Good luck with that, Chrisisall.
The thing about authoritarian followers and cult-of-personality adherents is that they need to believe. REAGAN SHALL NOT BE MOCKED. Reagan must be viewed with an adoration approaching divinity (which is just slightly less than the trauma necessary to cause organ failure). It is absolutely impossible that Reagan wasn't the hero they need to believe he was.
For the authoritarian followers it will always be about personalities. A key tell is that they will often bring up other personalities that they think you are devoted to with the same fervor of their own. It's almost a given that whenever you bring up a negative about one of the right wing authorian followers beloved personalities they will bring up Clinton. It's a tactic that they use - go after personality - because it's what works on them.
Something the authoritarian followers of the right have never understood is that we don't hold our leaders in the position of godhead that they do. Make fun of Teddy Kennedy? We shrug. You make fun of Ronald Reagan? They go apoplectic.
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
The thing about authoritarian followers and cult-of-personality adherents is that they need to believe. ...
Something the authoritarian followers of the right have never understood is that we don't hold our leaders in the position of godhead that they do.
I wonder what would happen if someone made one of them read Dune... Spontaneous combustion?
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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair
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The report published by the Tower Commission, known as the Tower Commission Report, was delivered to the President on February 26, 1987. It criticized the actions of Oliver North, John Poindexter, Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and others. It did not determine that the President had knowledge of the extent of the program, although it argued that the President ought to have had better control of the National Security Council staff.
Posting to stir stuff up.
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair
The report published by the Tower Commission, known as the Tower Commission Report, was delivered to the President on February 26, 1987. It did not determine that the President had knowledge of the extent of the program, although it argued that the President ought to have had better control of the National Security Council staff.
Plausably deniability at it's best, fellow Browncoats.
There is no 'Miranda' Chrisisall
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Quote:That's my whole friggin' point, Dr. Banner!!!
Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's not nearly as 1 sided as you're lead to believe.
Gamma Chrisisall
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Something the authoritarian followers of the right have never understood is that we don't hold our leaders in the position of godhead that they do. Make fun of Teddy Kennedy? We shrug. You make fun of Ronald Reagan? They go apoplectic.
That Kennedy is even thought of as a 'leader', and continues to get voted back into office, year after year, is telling in its own right. Reagan never killed his mistress, and that's the start of a long list of differences. Meanwhile, you have icons of the Left who openly state they'd have given Clinton a B.J. for keeping Roe v Wade the law of the land, when he , as President, has very little to do w/ the issue of abortion. There's so much that is base and low that the Left holds up , they don't know true goodness when they see it.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Something the authoritarian followers of the right have never understood is that we don't hold our leaders in the position of godhead that they do. Make fun of Teddy Kennedy? We shrug. You make fun of Ronald Reagan? They go apoplectic.
That Kennedy is even thought of as a 'leader', and continues to get voted back into office, year after year, is telling in its own right. Reagan never killed his mistress, and that's the start of a long list of differences. Meanwhile, you have icons of the Left who openly state they'd have given Clinton a B.J. for keeping Roe v Wade the law of the land, when he , as President, has very little to do w/ the issue of abortion. There's so much that is base and low that the Left holds up , they don't know true goodness when they see it.
QED
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