Ranty Rant

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CAUSAL

Tuesday, January 9, 2007 1:09 AM

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Originally posted by seryn:
See, it was what is called a joke. J O K E - it means something said in jest - not actually meant. To be funny or silly, and intended to make people laugh.

I think I knew that you weren't serious. Complicating the matter is that I'm a philosopher, and sometimes I just rant and can't help myself. Also complicating it is that although I know that plenty of people dislike President Bush (myself among them), I don't understand the people that hate him.

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Honestly, they need to get humour HTML in this place.

Ain't that the truth. And a sarcasm one. And an "I'm-teasing-you" one.

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One last thing, gun are designed to kill people, quickly and cheaply. If all all of you ever want to do with 'all of your firearms' is harras innocent paper targets, why are you not just using straws and paper blobs - much less contorversial.

You're right, guns are meant to kill things. I won't disagree to that. Swords are, too. Some people have collections of swords, and some even swing them around on occasion--safely, of course, and never to hurt anyone. I have a relatively small collection of guns. Sometimes I get them out and use them--safely, of course, and never to harm anyone. I enjoy the physical mastery of being able to put thirty rounds into a bullseye from 200 yards (although I haven't been able to duplicate that since I left the service). But I do own one gun that I rarely shoot. That one I keep just in case someone attacks me in my home. I will never use it to hurt anyone that isn't trying to hurt me. I'll never use it in anger. And I'm reasonably certain that it will never get up and hurt someone on its own. But, God forbid, I ever have to defend myself from mortal peril, I have the means to do so. I respect your right not to own a gun, Seryn. That's your choice. It's my right to opt to own a gun. All I ask is that you respect my right to choose, even if you don't understand, or disagree. As far as the using "straws and paper blobs" thing goes, I'm not sure exactly what that means, but I don't give a damn about being controversial (no offense). I take very seriously my responsibility to protect my wife, my home, and myself, and I want to have the means to do so.

That said, in what sense can paper be considered "innocent"? That implies that it could also be considered "blameworthy". I'm not sure those concepts are applicable to paper targets.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 1:11 AM

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Originally posted by seryn:
Wouldn't the flame thrower be put to better use on the White house?

Aww. don't burn the White House. What about all the nice paintings on the instead, not to mention all the pretty decorative stuff and the like. But i do agree, i do not like this war. And i am very curious and worried about the future of my country and the rest of the world. I have friends in Iraq. Good friends, people i grew up with and we're all too young to be burying them. they're barely adults. stupid army.

They ain't cuddly like me.

SERYN

Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:

I think I knew that you weren't serious. Complicating the matter is that I'm a philosopher, and sometimes I just rant and can't help myself. Also complicating it is that although I know that plenty of people dislike President Bush (myself among them), I don't understand the people that hate him.

i can't say i hate him hate him - you'd have to give me time to get to know him for that. but i know that i hate his policies on a lot of subjects, i hate the way that when it comes to crunch time, he can't seem to find his arse with two hands an a map, I hate the way he and Bliar* have this mutual butt kissing thing going on, and especially hate the way he's nominally the most powerful man in the western world.

but there you go.

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You're right

I never tire of hearing those words...

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guns are meant to kill things. I won't disagree to that. Swords are, too. Some people have collections of swords

yes, i cant say i entirely get that either - infact i stopped posting on the picture threads because of the pictures of people kissing and slurping at their knife collections.

See, weapons are like codpieces** - they exist in real life, and they are there for everyone to see, often signposting their presence with sequins and bells (the er, codpieces) and you have get used to it. And then they turn up in movies and stuff and they are a prop or a costume, so they are there, and someone put a lot of effort into making them and they often can truly be called a work of art. but why would you want one in your home? i mean - they're not necessary, they have no use apart from dust support, they're dangerous around dogs and small children and quite frankly the way some people behave they're a bit kinky.

But then maybe its just my hatred of ornaments coming through on the knife (and the codpiece) thing.

As for respecting your right to choose - of course i do - same as i don't tell someone not to drink or smoke. Doesn't mean i'm going to sit next to them on the bus if i can possibly help it, but they have brain of their own, i ain't got no say in it.

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That said, in what sense can paper be considered "innocent"? That implies that it could also be considered "blameworthy". I'm not sure those concepts are applicable to paper targets.

i think i meant innocent as in 'what'd they ever do to you?'

Poor little paper people, lifes all quiet sitting in their stack, then someone shoots them full of holes....

*that wasn't a mistype
** no, seriously - codpeices seriously freak me out - any number of bizarre iron corsets, froufy collars and variationa on farthingales i can take - i can even gaze upon images of gimp masks undisturbed (not that i try too) but cod peices are just.. they're overt and sinistar and largely ridiculous.

CAUSAL

Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by seryn:
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Originally posted by Causal:

I think I knew that you weren't serious. Complicating the matter is that I'm a philosopher, and sometimes I just rant and can't help myself. Also complicating it is that although I know that plenty of people dislike President Bush (myself among them), I don't understand the people that hate him.

i can't say i hate him hate him - you'd have to give me time to get to know him for that. but i know that i hate his policies on a lot of subjects, i hate the way that when it comes to crunch time, he can't seem to find his arse with two hands an a map, I hate the way he and Bliar* have this mutual butt kissing thing going on, and especially hate the way he's nominally the most powerful man in the western world.

but there you go.

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You're right
I never tire of hearing those words...
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guns are meant to kill things. I won't disagree to that. Swords are, too. Some people have collections of swords
yes, i cant say i entirely get that either - infact i stopped posting on the picture threads because of the pictures of people kissing and slurping at their knife collections.

See, weapons are like codpieces** - they exist in real life, and they are there for everyone to see, often signposting their presence with sequins and bells (the er, codpieces) and you have get used to it. And then they turn up in movies and stuff and they are a prop or a costume, so they are there, and someone put a lot of effort into making them and they often can truly be called a work of art. but why would you want one in your home? i mean - they're not necessary, they have no use apart from dust support, they're dangerous around dogs and small children and quite frankly the way some people behave they're a bit kinky.

But then maybe its just my hatred of ornaments coming through on the knife (and the codpiece) thing. safely, of course, and never to harm anyone.

As for respecting your right to choose - of course i do - same as i don't tell someone not to drink or smoke. Doesn't mean i'm going to sit next to them on the bus if i can possibly help it, but they have brain of their own, i ain't got no say in it.

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That said, in what sense can paper be considered "innocent"? That implies that it could also be considered "blameworthy". I'm not sure those concepts are applicable to paper targets.
i think i meant innocent as in 'what'd they ever do to you?'

Poor little paper people, lifes all quiet sitting in their stack, then someone shoots them full of holes....

*that wasn't a mistype
** no, seriously - god peices seriously freak me out - any number of bizarre iron corsets, froufy collars and variationa on farthingales i can take - i can even gaze upon images of gimp masks undisturbed (not that i try too) but cod peices are just.. they're overt and sinistar and largely ridiculous.

Seriously, best post ever. Thoughtful, well-spoken, and--best of all--funny.

God, I love this fandom!

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SERYN

Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:08 PM

aw shucks...

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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