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Laughing at Saddam

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 1:33 AM


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Fake Saddam hanged claims pathological liars Uncle Scam and Media Mafia

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"This is not my husband but his double. Where is my husband? Take me to my husband! You think I do not know my husband? I was married to the man for more than twenty-five years!"
-Sajida Heiralla Tuffah Hussein, wife of Saddam Hussein, visiting the tortured imposter in US Death Camp, "Mrs Saddam says Saddam is not Saddam"

www.vialls.com/iraq/vaudeville.html
www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/061804saddamnotsaddam.htm
www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/saddam-pics.htm


Saddam sentenced to Death for 8 dead Iraqis - Death penalty ordered for Bush Jr, Clinton and Bush Sr for murdering 2.2-million Iraqis, and for killing 200,000 dead US Gulf war soldiers with friendly fire, radiactive uranium, made-in-USA WMDs and sabotaged vaccines.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/299


US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie: "I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business."
President Saddam Hussein: "As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death."
Glaspie: "We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960's, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America."
President Saddam Hussein: (smiles)
-Videotaped meeting between Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and US Ambassador April Glaspie, July 25, 1990 (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait)

Journalist 2: "You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait) but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait."
Journalist 1: "You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?"
US Ambassador Glaspie: "Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait."
-US Embassy, Baghdad, Iraq, September 2, 1990


US Army War College: NO PROOF SADDAM GASSED THE KURDS! It was the Iranians, stupid!
www.whatreallyhappened.com/helms.html

SADDAM'S HANGING VERDICT IS ILLEGAL AND UNJUST, SAYS SADDAM'S JUDGE
http://blogs.salon.com/0002255/2006/12/28.html





Fake hanging video does NOT show Saddam's face during the fall.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7532034279766935521

Black-hooded ZioNazi (CIA/MI6/Mossad) terrorists use cellphone videocam rather than HDV procam to allegedly record Iraqi history. VERY easy to fake this Photoshopped video.

MindFreak can cut himself in half in front of dozens of sheeple on HDTV.
www.myspace.com/crissangel

The actual hanging is NOT shown in this video. Saddam could have simply walked down the stairs and put his neck back in the noose. But if true, Bush Gang and German queen of England won't have to pay Saddam his cut from their $100-billion joint bankster account from oil profiteering. Looks a lot like the fake beheading of Jewish Mossad agent Nick Berg, who loaned his computer to the alleged Arab "suicide hijackers" on 9/11/2001, who was a CIA employee of Abu Ghraib Death Camp, who was "beheaded" inside Abu Ghraib while wearing an Abu Ghraib prison uni

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 3:22 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
I rest my case.


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Since I need to draw a picture for some, Slick just did exactly what I described - called Hussein an evil man (claiming the moral high ground); then did a dubya and made fun of the execution of a human being (amoral reaction).



So you don't consider Saddam an evil man? You think he deserves the respect due an honorable person?

I can see one of two options about this. Either you have never done even the slightest research into his life and the crimes he has perpetrated, and so don't understand the depth of evil he has inflicted on Iraq and its neighbors, or you're a total nutcase. Given the fact that you can't get through a post without a "dubya" comment, I suspect that you consider anyone who opposes Bush, even though he be a sadistic tyrant, to be your hero. I'm going with nutcase. Be sure to book your trip to Libya in time to be there for the dedication fo the statue they're building to your marytr Saddam.

https://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd/Iraq_Oct_2002.htm#05

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 4:20 AM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
So you don't consider Saddam an evil man? You think he deserves the respect due an honorable person?

I think the point is that we can't set ourselves up as better than 'them' if we don't treat 'them' better than they would treat 'us'.

Don't you think there would be a moral message in treating our worse enemy with the same reverence as our greatest hero?



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 5:08 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
I think the point is that we can't set ourselves up as better than 'them' if we don't treat 'them' better than they would treat 'us'.

Don't you think there would be a moral message in treating our worse enemy with the same reverence as our greatest hero?

No. I think that would make us look like fruitcakes, and I think, undeniably without question, Hussein was treated (even with all the amateurish behavior) far, far better then he treated those he killed. I could tell you things that Saddam was known to have done that would make you cringe with disgust if you had any decency in you at all. In order to silence dissent with in his own party, the man had children kidnapped; tortured to death, including their finger nails pulled off, their eye gouged out, and then the mutilated bodies returned to the parents, sometimes left hanging from a post outside their parent’s house. Children! Tortured to death, just to keep people in line. And that’s people who were on his side. If you weren’t on his side, the solution was usually just mass murder. That’s part of the reason why I find it’s so unfortunate when some people claim there were no “Islamic terrorists” in Iraq. Even if that were true, which its not, the Ba’ath regime itself more then made up for that. In 1998, the HRW ruled that there were more unexplained “disappearances” of people in Iraq then any other UN member state.

So while I find this whole Laughing at Saddam crap a bit amateurish (I’ve not participated in it and I won’t), it’s a hell of lot better then treating him like our “greatest hero.” God forbid we ever become that much of a bunch of lunatics.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
So while I find this whole Laughing at Saddam crap a bit amateurish (I’ve not participated in it and I won’t), it’s a hell of lot better then treating him like our “greatest hero.” God forbid we ever become that much of a bunch of lunatics.

Poorly worded. I'm not Saying we should have ticker tape parades through New York to our great enemy (besides Saddam was hardly our greatest enemy, please), I mean if we don't treat your enemies as you'd like to be treated in that situation how can we start harping on about the moral high ground? "Ohh pick us, we're not as bad as tyranical dictators! Choose the lesser of two evils!"

Besides what's the problem with looking like a bunch of Lunatics? You'd get your own way more often, no one wants to have a barny with a bunch of lunatics holding nuclear weapons.



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Saturday, January 6, 2007 1:41 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
... I mean if we don't treat your enemies as you'd like to be treated in that situation how can we start harping on about the moral high ground?



Let's see. We (the US) captured Saddam, and immediately provided health and dental care, clothing, comfortable if not stylish accommodations, food in accordance with his religious strictures, books, etc. We held him until there was an Iraqi government up and running and then continued to hold him for that government while they tried him. After a trial which may not have hit all the legal niceities, but which reached an obviously correct verdict, we turned Saddam over to the Iraqi government and they executed him in accordance with their laws. Not sure how he could have been treated much better, under the circumstances.

Some individual Iraqis mocked and taunted him during the execution. The Iraqi government is looking for them and has promised punishment.

I personally mock Saddam's death because I personally do not consider him worthy of respect, based on his actions throughout his life. I save my respect for those who have earned it. Gerald Ford and James Brown come to mind.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 3:09 PM

It was disgusting and vile how the US media packaged the execution for broadcast that night....you all know what I mean...the "framing" of the moment, complete with cute little colorful graphics....and now a word from our sponsors.





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Saturday, January 6, 2007 5:07 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
I personally mock Saddam's death because I personally do not consider him worthy of respect, based on his actions throughout his life. I save my respect for those who have earned it. Gerald Ford and James Brown come to mind.

And as much as I feel that mocking Saddam’s death serves only to give ammunition to dumbasses, I can’t help but sympathize with you here.


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Originally posted by citizen:
Besides what's the problem with looking like a bunch of Lunatics? You'd get your own way more often, no one wants to have a barny with a bunch of lunatics holding nuclear weapons.

Probably. For a while anyway. Until you crossed some line, like the 17th UN Chapter 7 Resolution, or something. If you were loud enough someone would eventually do something with you.




Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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RUE
Saturday, January 6, 2007 10:20 PM

Slick,

Once again you have presented yet another straw-man argument. What I said was the issue was your personal hypocracy. Saying he's an evil man and then delighting in death. It's the one plus the other.

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Sunday, January 7, 2007 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Slick,

Once again you have presented yet another straw-man argument. What I said was the issue was your personal hypocracy. Saying he's an evil man and then delighting in death. It's the one plus the other.



No hypocracy involved. He was evil, and I'm glad he's dead. I see no reason to give him any respect or honor.

You apparently do, but I can't for the life of me figure out why. Saddam was all your nightmares of sinister government intrigue writ large.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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