Laughing at Saddam
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UPDATED: Monday, January 5, 2026 21:57
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Quote:No, says I.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Can some human-looking beings be so far outside these rules that they don't qualify for the benefits of humanity any more? Obviously, I think so.
Saddam was a human being, twisted and evil perhaps, and he lost his right to live among us as he tortured his first victim, but he was still a human being.
I was sitting in a theatre that was showing a trailer from Faces Of Death way back when. It showed a documentary film-makes walking up to a lion for a close shot, and the lion up and mauled him; tore him right apart on camera. The audience mostly went EEEEWWW or laughed. I was silent, for a man had died. Maybe he was stupid, maybe he beat his wife, I don't know, but it was not funny. Peeps in the audience laughed mostly as a defence-mechanism.
And calling someone not-human is another. It is divorcing them from our reality, making them that which we could never be. A potential monster lives within us all, and no amount of rhetoric will change that.
Tell yourself what you need to, you will anyhow, just take some quiet moments to see how much your monster scares you; peeps most afraid of it have the greatest propensity for becoming one.
Here endith the lesson Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Saddam was a human being, twisted and evil perhaps, and he lost his right to live among us as he tortured his first victim, but he was still a human being.
Why? What makes Saddam a human being? You say he was, so you must have some objective criteria.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Bored now.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Why? What makes Saddam a human being? You say he was, so you must have some objective criteria.
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Quote:Bored now.
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Why? What makes Saddam a human being? You say he was, so you must have some objective criteria.
Or has no answer now?
C'mon. You said Saddam is/was a human being, so it should be easy for you to explain that decision.
Let me help. Was it:
A) His human shaped outer shell?
B) His "Soul"?
C) His innate humanity?
D) His ability to grow and evolve to a higher consciousness?
E) Because you just KNOW it?
F) Because he loved kittens?
G) Because I don't think he was?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Because I own the only Saddam-bot, so he had to be the human one.
I'm gonna hafta hand this off to someone else, okay?
Saddam: a human being or not?
Take it away boys and girls Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Saddam was a human being, twisted and evil perhaps, and he lost his right to live among us as he tortured his first victim, but he was still a human being.
Why? What makes Saddam a human being? You say he was, so you must have some objective criteria.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
I think there is more objective (note the importance of your own word choice) evidence that he was human. Where's your (again: objective) evidence that he was not?
Other than dehumanizing your enemies makes it easier to feel good about killing them.
A psychotic asshole, yeah. But still human.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:The thing that strikes me most is the materials that they used to make that engine. I mean a small sparrow through your average Jet engine would make it turn itself inside out quite spectacularly, let alone a man, and a fairly substantial one at that.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I think Mal probably had every intention of killing Crow if he refused the money, but I don’t think he was happy about it . . . for whatever it’s worth to Crow as he shot out the aft exhaust in little pieces.
Quote:Multi mode operation. Turbine jet engine for take off/lower air speeds, Ram Jet for higher air speed, rocket thruster for interplanetary/break away velocity.
Also why does an engine used in space have an air inlet anyway?
Why use a rocket if all your doing is flying around in an atmosphere at sub-sonic speeds?
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Quote:What makes you a Human being?
Originally posted by Geezer:
Why? What makes Saddam a human being? You say he was, so you must have some objective criteria.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Quote:BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Originally posted by citizen:
What makes you a Human being?
Chrisisall
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And I thought this thread had just about died (naturally, and in bed, of course) ...
Slick,
Quote:Funny, you seemed to say earlier that his execution was a matter of justice ... "That the guilty should not fear punishment for their crimes." So now we're not discussing justice? Fine, just make up your mind - what do you want to discuss?
So we're attempting to segue from laughing at Saddam to a discussion of the death penalty.
Quote:Well then, as long as we're not pretending it's a matter of justice.
If he had been killed by a bomb during the early weeks of the war ... I'd still mock him and belittle his death.
Quote:Let's see, here you accused me of making anti-US statements when I hadn't done any such thing. "C'mon, Rue. If you want to hijack every thread for your hate America rants ..." Then you tried to weasel out of it by saying it was directed at Simonwho "Actually, I was referring to Simonwho's post."; and then called me a loser for thinking a post with my name was actually to me "Got a little ego going there, Rue? 'Oh, I'm Rue. It's all about me.' How embarrassing for you. Loser." . Then you said "Given the fact that you can't get through a post without a "dubya" comment ..." though until you brought it up there were none from me.
You've played the troll in the last half of this thread
Who's the troll?
Quote:Accusations? Failing to respond? Changing the subject? Hardly.
making accusations and moral pronouncements on other people's points of view without stating your own, failing to respond to questions, and changing the subject when you talk yourself into a corner.
Quote:Are we now discussing the death penalty? I just want to know 'cause I don't want to be accused of changing the subject again.
So there's no moral difference in your mind between an elected government saying "We'll punish you if you violate the rights of our citizens, including killing them in great numbers" and a dictator saying "I'll punish you if you don't let my sons rape your daughter".
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