Male and Female Imponderables--Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain
POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Monday, November 13, 2006 22:30
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Morning everyone! I feel well-rested for the first time in a couple weeks; is nice!
MsG, I don't think there can be love without trust. I can't even be friends with someone I don't trust, let alone anything else. I might be pretty harsh about it, too, because if I can't trust them not to consistantly cause me pain - be it deliberate or accidental - I can't be close to them. Even if it's accidental, if it's consistant, it undermines the needed trust.
Sorry, that was a ponderable, right? Since I can't watch vids at work, that's all I had to respond to 
*edit* Oh, no I'm wrong there was the arranged marriage thing, too! It's nice that there's some choice involved. I can see how that would work better. That I might be okay with; it's hard sometimes to line up your own 'suitors' so it might be nice to have it done for you. Yes, yes, I could see that.
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Can you truly love someone if you don't trust them?? If, in any way, you don't completely trust them not to intentionally( because we all accidentally do this sometimes) cause you pain, be it emotional or physical can you really love them??
It's good that you set the parameter of "intentionally" causing pain. If I were to take that at it's most literal, I would say that I trust everyone that I call a friend, and all of my immediate family. We share that love.
But I think there a finer lines that must be considered. I don't always trust these people to tell me the truth, and that in itself hurts. I've trusted different people at different times to be strait forward with me, and everyone seems to fall short of it. I wont say that I've never lied; I used to make a habit out of it. But there's no need for me to do that anymore, because I have no fear. So when I see someone lie, I can't help but think, "What a coward".
So yes, it's possible for me to love people, trusting that they mean me no intentional harm, while being aware that as humans, they have the unique ability to turn a blind eye when hurting me accidentally.
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Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkyries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.
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mornin' Imponderables. I haven't managed to catch up on older thread(s) from the weekend, but I did read this one. Some things:
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Originally posted by Kelkhil:
Yeah there seems to be some really bad PUSF going on lately.
Yeah, I have a lot of that one at the moment. Usually makes me write smutty fanfic, but that was before I discovered the forums and all of you shiny people. We'll see where it goes this time.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
For me (before I started graveyards and was just a night owl) it would be 'really late' until the sun started to come up, and then it would be 'morning' even if I hadn't gone to bed yet.
That is how I feel about it, and have since college. The horrible DayStar is the only thing that brings the morning, at least in my book. Contrary to that, I always say "mornin'" when I walk into work, though I go into my second job in the afternoon. There is one girl who always repeats it back to me, then gets mad that I said morning instead of afternoon or evening. :)
CMH - I tend to agree with you: right and wrong are relative. USing your example, we feel that we are right in invading and re-structuring Iraq, while members of Al Qaeda feel that they were right to fly planes into buildings (ok, not meant to start a political/war discussion, just making a point with it). A lot of things that are right to me are wrong to a lot of other people. Relative, like most everything else in life.
Meh, I am cranky, sick, and lonely this morning. Stuff still not going so well family-wise, but that is for another post or another day. I do want to thank you all for being such shiny friends.
~Jimi
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Morning all!
Man I am not even going to attempt to catch up with everything.
The line between good and evil? Well the way I see it, it depends on who wins. The victor always seems to be good and the loser always seems to be evil. As far as the History books tell us.
As far as what I concider to be good and evil. It is quite a long list on both ends. I will have to agree with CMH as far as not impeding on someone as long as they do not on you.
Would I do evil? not that gets complicated. It depends on the outcome in the big picture. Would it help someone if I wronged someone else? And of course the big one. If someone hurt my family. there would be no one in the world that could stop me from returning the favor.
Well enough seriousness for now!
Kelkhil
The Shirtless Forsaken
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Originally posted by Kelkhil:
Morning all!
Man I am not even going to attempt to catch up with everything.
'Twould appear that much went on over the weekend. I'm smelling trollish behaviour (that may have been deleted...)wisping through multiple threads from the weekend. If someone would care to enlighten me...but if not, that's ok too.
And now for something completely different:
There is a mouse in my office. I opened up my desk drawer this AM to pull out my bag of grape-nuts, and there was a hole gnawed through the bag, and little tiny poopies in my drawer. Yogurt without my grape-nuts is a sad breakfast.
And...it has been raining since Saturday night here in MD. No fun, and makes for a depressing Monday morning.
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Mice in the Office: Now you can work and be at one with nature at the same time!
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Originally posted by msg:
Can you truly love someone if you don't trust them?? If, in any way, you don't completely trust them not to intentionally( because we all accidentally do this sometimes) cause you pain, be it emotional or physical can you really love them??
My instinct is to say no, but I'm not altogether sure. I don't think I could love someone I didn't trust in a relationship, but there are two close friends who spring to mind who I love to bits but who, because they both have addiction issues, I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw a very heavy thing. I've seen people in relationships with people they don't trust but still love, although I'm not sure I'd ever stay in a relationship like that myself. And I have to admit, not being able to trust these two has seriously eroded our friendship.
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Well morning DTH and Mavs!
Mouse in the office eh? If you catch it could you mail it to me. Save a little money on snake food this week
Kelkhil
The Shirtless Forsaken
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Ok, between you & DTH, you're killin' me.
I don't mind mice, really. But I'm at my desk. I don't want to be one with Nature at my desk. The closest I want to get to mice here is my optical mouse.
Nature needs to go outside and find a nice little girl mouse to get busy with. Preferably, not in my desk drawer.
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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Ok, between you & DTH, you're killin' me.
I don't mind mice, really. But I'm at my desk. I don't want to be one with Nature at my desk. The closest I want to get to mice here is my optical mouse.
Nature needs to go outside and find a nice little girl mouse to get busy with. Preferably, not in my desk drawer.
Ooohhh! The mouse and the girl mouse could move into your drawer! You could have a whole family of little mouse babies to play with every day!
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