Male and Female Imponderables-Then he kissed me
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I choose to rise instead of fall- U2
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Originally posted by Tristan:
Halloween...taken from wikipedia (not always the most reliable source, but it does have all the info compacted into neat chunks). This is the part that I was looking for. It looks to me like it was hijacked...Quote:
The term Halloween, and its older spelling Hallowe'en, is shortened from All-hallow-even, as it is the evening before "All Hallows' Day"[1] (also known as "All Saints' Day"). The holiday was a day of religious festivities in various northern European Pagan traditions, until Popes Gregory III and Gregory IV moved the old Christian feast of All Saints Day from May 13 to November 1. In Ireland, the name was All Hallows' Eve (often shortened to Hallow Eve), and though seldom used today, it is still a well-accepted label. The festival is also known as Samhain or Oíche Shamhna to the Irish, Calan Gaeaf to the Welsh, Allantide to the Cornish and Hop-tu-Naa to the Manx. Halloween is also called Pooky Night in some parts of Ireland, presumably named after the púca, a mischievous spirit.
Many European cultural traditions hold that Halloween is one of the liminal times of the year when spirits can make contact with the physical world and when magic is most potent (e.g. Catalan mythology about witches, Irish tales of the Sídhe).
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I think you'll find that ALL of the big Christian HOLYdays were previously Pagan feasts. (In fact since I've only been here a short while in the grand scheme of things, I was wondering if we are planning a special Pyre for the Boar's Head Festival?) Easter (whose very name might be (oy, such controversy!) derived from the name of an ancient Mesopotamian (sorry, folks, not going to play who said it first here: find another thread) sex cult high priestess/goddess tradition. PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SHOOT ME DOWN HERE; I AM NOT ATTEMPTING TO GIVE THE ACCURATE, AUTHENTIC HISTORY. I AM PARAPHRASING A THOUSAND DIFFERENT SOURCES, BRINGING UP ONLY THE PERTINENT OR "INTERESTING" TIDBITs. (no apologies to Mavourneen, I'm still mad at her!) Astarte, Ashtoreth and Ishtar being a few of the aliases. Spring and fertility and such.
Equinoxes are important. So are Solstices. The Christian mindset at the time was to show that Christianity was the superior religion by subplanting the Pagan festivals but to hold onto to just enough of the traditions and rituals to give things a familiar feel and therefore be more "spiritually palatable". Not going to open the floor for discussing the merits of that either. Just some trivia for y'all. I got a million of 'em.
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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Good afternoon Imponderers!
On the subject of cats - while I don't have cats I have had a dog growing up. Dogs are definitely more dependent than cats. I have a lot of friends who have cats, and I'm sure they would agree that they feel like staff for their cats. I would probably have a cat if I wasn't allergic to them. But I think, by and large, I'm a dog person.
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Hey that's a good ponderable...So are you a cat or dog person and why?
I am both a cat and dog person. I love dogs to take on walks and play with, plus I feel safer with dogs around. I love cats for how cute they are, their funny antics, and when they curl up on me.
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2
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I love both dogs and cats as well, but I would consider myself more of a dog person because of the lovable nature of dogs that probably comes from the dependency and attention they require. Plus with dogs, you can grab them and give them a big hug, whereas cats are little more fragile.
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Originally posted by msg:
Definitely Pagan:) Though I may have to drag PaganPaul out here to bless our house when we move in May to the new one...
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RIMG- hmmm sorry about the baptists...methodists are a little calmer( for the most part) but having grown up in Atlanta I do understand the church on every corner.
Pagan? Methodist?
Which is it? Here I thought you wuz plain-spoken, out-spoken and soft-spoken. I fear this may not be the case. *narrows eyes* Are you a...WITCH????
I haven't been this confused since PhoenixRose said she was Pagan and Buddhist! And then there's Magdalena!!
All this mishing and mashing about. Why does everyone insist on coloring outside the lines?
(Do ya think anyone remembers me claiming to be an Existential Neo-Platonist? Naw. I'm sure they missed that one. Besides, I think it was a Neo-Platonic Existentialist...)
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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Are labels really necessary? 
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I think "coloring outside the lines" promotes understanding of different cultures, beliefs, and ways of life. As for labels, "a Rose by any other name would smell as sweet." You are who you are whether or not you identify with one group of people. The question of identity is an ongoing process as social mores and morals continue to change as new issues arise, as well as the introduction of more and different cultures into our society.
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Well, technically...
The dictionary definition of 'Pagan' is 'a religion which is not Abrahamic in origin' 'any religion that is not Christianity, Cathlolicsism, or Judaism' 'any polytheistic religion' etc etc etc. Kinda paraphrasing that, but to say that I'm Pagan takes in all those beleif systems not based on the bible, hence Buddhism is included...
No, I'm sure that just confused you more. Let's just leave it at this: Contemplative religions meld very well. There, ok. I'm going to bed.
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Originally posted by Ged:
I think "coloring outside the lines" promotes understanding of different cultures, beliefs, and ways of life. As for labels, "a Rose by any other name would smell as sweet." You are who you are whether or not you identify with one group of people. The question of identity is an ongoing process as social mores and morals continue to change as new issues arise, as well as the introduction of more and different cultures into our society.
I want to believe that idea is a large part of why we're all so captivated by Firefly. None of the Big Damn Heroes can be easily pigeon-holed or stereo-typed or however you wish to describe it. I think one of Joss's intents, if not the main one is to change not necessarily the mind of the viewer, but the perspective the viewer has to use to "define" the characters for themself. Mal's a good guy, but he casually shoots people dead. Jayne's a bad guy, no, he's a dumb guy, no, he's a self-serving guy; but wait! Didn't we see him anguishing over the fallen Kaylee? Everyone is noble, everyone is common. Everyone is unique and nobody colors inside the lines.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Well, technically...
The dictionary definition of 'Pagan' is 'a religion which is not Abrahamic in origin' 'any religion that is not Christianity, Cathlolicsism, or Judaism' 'any polytheistic religion' etc etc etc. Kinda paraphrasing that, but to say that I'm Pagan takes in all those beleif systems not based on the bible, hence Buddhism is included...
No, I'm sure that just confused you more. Let's just leave it at this: Contemplative religions meld very well. There, ok. I'm going to bed.
Actually, I wasn't confused the first time around, but I was extremely intrigued by your particular "melding". 'Course you're just plain intriguing anyway. I find your openness and thoughtfulness so very refreshing.
But one more thing...It's only noon your time isn't it? going to bed at this hour?
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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