Is Firefly suitable for children?

POSTED BY: chronicthehedgehog
UPDATED: Thursday, August 17, 2006 05:12
VIEWED: 15214
PAGE 3 of 5

PREV PAGE 1 2 3 4 5 NEXT PAGE

ZZETTA13

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:41 PM

I haven't read all the posts yet but I intend to when I get more time. For now I wanted to throw in my $.50

Here are some lines by the crew.

Mal:" Ain't no one took a hold of my plow for a long time 'cept me."

Zoe: " Remember that sex we were planning to have, ever?"

Kaylee:" Have good sex." and " Ain't had nuthin twinxed my nethers in a long while ain't run on batteries."

Wash: " I like our party better. I know all the steps." and "...you with the bathing. Me with the watching you bath."

Jayne: "I'll be in my bunk."

Course most of these are mild and most all would fly over the head of a child. I think it's Inara's sex scenes that I world worry about getting questions from a 6 year old. I might get a little stutter explaining that.

Z

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zzetta13:
" Ain't had nuthin twinxed my nethers in a long while ain't run on batteries."

That raises an interesting point, though I'd be happy showing a child Firefly I would have very definite reservations about showing them Serenity. I think the violence is far more visceral than in Firefly and I'd definately have problems showing it to anyone who wasn't at least in double figures.

-------------------------------------------------

I do not kill with my hand.
He who kills with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I kill with my heart.

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:52 PM

Shiny ! Dark Tower fans.It is like finding Browncoats ! Couldn't you just see Nathan as Roland ?

My 6 year old is only interested if Serenity is on the screen.But he did see Heart of Gold somehow. The only thing he cared about was when Mal rode the bad guy down on a horse.There was cheering. Otherwise I would say he's just a little too immature for it.My little one can sing the theme song and he's only 2 !When the time comes they both will be Browncoats !

Gargoyles was such a great show.Not many around like that anymore.I also really like Justice League . I used to love the Superfriends as a kid !

Bryce
******************************************

I swallowed a bug.

KANEMAN

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:58 PM

I'd agree with the violent characterization of Serenity..But...Twinxing of nethers and battery operated "whodonnits", would most definitely bypass the head of the little ones( no pun intended)..Shit it took me awhile to get that one...Still not sure I'm 100%.

DARKFLY

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:05 PM

Yeah I never realized she even said twix my nethers... until I watched Serenity the 2nd time.

Go to http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=19&t=22697 for more info!

Things are about to get interesting...Define interesting...Oh GOD oh GOD we're all going to die.

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chronicthehedgehog:
Gargoyles was amazing, I watched it as an adult (if you can class being 19/20 as an adult) and it had me in awe. I think the episode where Broadway accidentally shot Eliza was the most grown-up storyline I've ever seen in a kids cartoon. It also had some of the most complex plotting I've seen in anything. Have you seen the new comic book? It continues where season two left off and ignores all that silly Goliath Chronicles nonsense.

Yeah, I've seen the comics, and I'm hoping they follow the TGS timeline (The Gargoyles Saga is a fanfic continuation/spinoff, based on Weisman's notes). I really wanna see TimeDancer in comic form. Could spin off a whole new series.

Though I'm one of the few who liked the Goliath Chronicles.

Trying to cut things out of continuity just opens a whole new can of worms.

Anyone heard anything WRT to the S2.2 DVDs?

Quote:
Also (getting completely off topic) if you're a fan of Gargoyles you should check out Justice League, it's a similarily adult themed kids show and has some of the most adult relationships I've seen in anything. And even better, it features the voices of Nathan Fillion, Adam Baldwin, Morena Baccarin and Gina Torres!

I never know whether to count the DCU tooniverse as a kids' show: where I am it's been relegated to prime-time blocks ("viewer discretion is advised") since before it was "Unlimited." Only one that played Saturday mornings its whole run was Batman Beyond. I generally only consider "childrens' shows" as airing during daylight.

Of course, InuYasha has never been on before 9pm, and I've seen 10-year-olds playing with InuYasha toys. Canada's TV broadcasting regulations are. . . odd (and unfair, but that's a whole other diatribe). Anything good on Canadian TV exists in spite of them.

Other good kids' shows I've seen include: The Powerpuff Girls ('cause it's just so laden with pop-culture in-jokes and zaniness --there was one episode where every line of dialogue was a Beatles lyric

), TMNT (from what I've seen of the new series[*], it seems by turns funy, dark, and action-packed, though the violence is very visibly toned down), Cardcaptors (one of the very few cases I'd recommend the dub over the original[**] --except for the very end, where the finale is sliced to ribbons to avoid any possibility that Li and Sakura are anything more than friends), The Batman (which I've only seen in parts[***]), Avatar, the Last Airbender ( http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=22783), Transformers: Beast Wars, Transformers: Beast Machines, Roughnecks: Starship Troopers, War Planets, Reboot, Hot Wheels Acceleracers (these last six are all made by a Canadian company called Mainframe, who might be the best CGI house outside of Pixar, and are one of the best animation houses outside of Japan) and W.I.T.C.H. ( http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=22591).

Most of the animé I've seen is part of the late-night blocks, so it has to be off the list by my own rules. That said, there's not much I wouldn't let kids watch (well, aside from the really adult stuff, like GitS:SAC or WHR). Hell, I'd let kids watch Gundam Seed. Who'd have a better perspective of violence, a kid who's told "War is bad," or a kid who's seen characters he knows getting killed (and not coming back)?

[*] It airs here on Teletoon, who refuse to air it in order, and are at least two seasons behind the US airings.

[**] Much as I love it, CLAMP are kinda guilty of writing their own slashfic --I'm fairly open-minded, but I don't want every character to be bi. Plus, with a cast of 10-year-olds, it's kinda squick-worthy. The dub tones down the shippyness (paring it down to just the Mei-lin/Li/Sakura triangle), and actually manages to give some real motivation that actually improves the story.

[***] Another Teletoon series.

-----
We applied t

CHRONICTHEHEDGEHOG

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:13 PM

I know Greg (Weisman) has said that he's never read any TGS stuff, he's not really interested in it and from what he did know they'd made some weird changes as to character (can't remember the exact quote, it's somewhere in the Ask Greg archive). I know he recently revised canon too (not the series, just what happened before/after), so I'm not sure how close TGS is to what he had planned now.

I'd love to see a Timedancer series in any form, tho I hate the idea of Gargoyles 2198, really goes against what I see Gargoyles as being about. Did you know Weisman's a Whedon fanatic too? He actually sat down and worked out a list of everyone to ever appear in the Buffyverse and rank their importance by season.

The only episode of Goliath Chronicles I remember liking was the one where Goliath was turned human, other than that it felt like a shamless rip on a once great show.

Don't know what's going on with the DVDs, we don't even have season one yet in the UK. Giving serious thought to importing them and the comic.

I can't stand The Batman, at first simply because it wasn't Batman: The Animated Series, but then when I gave it a real try it just went downhill so fast it became cringeworthy. Reboot was great after the first season.

As bad as it would become, Power Rangers actually did some really good stuff early on. The whole Green Ranger saga was surprisingly well done.

Other than that, Pirates of Dark Water was pretty awesome but never got finished.

WHR = Witch Hunter Robin?
-------------------------------------------------

I do not kill with my hand.
He who kills with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I kill with my heart.

MSG

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:25 PM

As a teacher I'd say I would let a child under 13 watch parts of it,but not all. I think most things that aren't graphically and realistically violent or sexual are fine for any kid so long as the parent is watching with. I think very few things are ok for kids to watch by themselves!
Just like we "protect" kids from kiddie porn" we need to protect their minds from exposure to content that has been repeatedly proven to cause emotional or psychological problems...that said, I'd say all but War Stories and Heart of Gold should be fine as long as context and talk through was done.
As in parent sits with kid and makes comments like..that's a bad word and it's mean to say so I don't think he should say that(referencing Mal calling Inara a whore or other such stuff)or Just because you see someone solve that problem by hitting doesn't mean that hitting is ok in real life. People on t.v. get to do things differently than we do when it's real. It feels good to imagine hitting a bad guy, but that's not what I'd want you to do. Also, doing the same talk over good things... look how Mal stands up for River, because she's his friend and he wants to help her ( Yeah, but she's our witch so cut her the hell down)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

DONCOAT

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:09 PM

Point of interest: the word is "'twixt". It's an abbreviation of "betwixt", an old-fashioned synonym of "between".

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm pointin' right at it!

BIGWOLF18

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:37 PM

my little sister was, 9 when she saw, serenity and firefly, and she understood all of it, although she is very intelligent for her age, so i dont know if that counts, and im omly 13.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the summer is hot normally but in england its more like winter!

PREV PAGE 1 2 3 4 5 NEXT PAGE