Most offensive scene in an SF or fantasy film...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 23, 2022 03:34
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:We are in complete agreement here.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I thought Armageddon was a great film. It is widely criticized for its crazy inaccuracies and cheese, but it is no more inaccurate or cheesy then Superman or Wonder Woman. The truth is that Armageddon was a comic book story without the comic book. Noble heroes fighting for Truth, Justice and the American way!
Chrisisall
Finn mac Cumhal and Chrisisall in complete agreement? Damn, I miss the Fascists.
By the way, not answering the thread, in the not too distant past did an Armageddon, Deep Impact, Core marathon. I'm a masochist, what can I say? If only I had The Day After Tomorrow...they are the same movie. Different takes, but that's Hollywood. Armageddon was the most satisfying. Bruce makes the Ultimate Sacrifice for Liv (sigh) and Afflack! Deep Impact the least. Why was it important for Tea Leoni to find Maximilian Schell just to die with him? Oh, yes to find out how he got out of Disney's the Black Hole. Oops! Too late. Time to be swallowed the Poiseidon Tsunami. The Core was just formula, Pablum, and occasionally fun.
C'mon people, I recognize you from the MST3K thread; insulting our intelligence is no reason to spit out a movie. It may be the very ingredient that entertains us. I see the zipper in his lizard suit, I see the wire holding up the spaceship.
Sure there's a lot of insulting schlock out there, but ain't we tough enough to take it? I think we are.
"Well, here I am."
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Stringer Bell with a Hackney accent - wot more could you ask for? Apparently, Joe Aherne didn't want to write a second series because he thought the idea had been written out - US Network execs could take note, although they didn't take up the US pilot, even with 'Dris.
Stringer Bell meets Commodore Norrington, there's a thought ...
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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?
Okay, so do you like the very worst movies there are? Do you have a craving that can only be appeased by overwrought, self-important motion picture afterbirth? If you do, and if you have a hookah close at hand and ready to use, tune in, turn on, drop out. This is the movie for you. Where else can you watch 2 hours of John Travolta run around with hi-tech snot trails coming out of his nose? It raises "drek" to a whole new level: this is sub-drek.
"Well, here I am."
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re Armagddeon
My wife turned me on to it. SHe's not a fan of Bruce Willis, disaster movies or sci- fi , really, but she pointed out that Harry Stamper is a Robert Heinlein hero-- a competent individual who makes a sacrifice for the greater good.
That theme makes the movie acceptable, in spite of scientific inaccuracy, gratuitous destruction, too many special effects and an over done plot
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Not on the actual topic of the thread, sorry, I just wanted to respond to a couple of folks here.
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Originally posted by Juko:
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Unless you're fired up by CGI to the point of sexual ecstasy, or if you're a devout Final Fantasy fanboi, AVOID THIS AT ALL COSTS. Plot, story, character motivation, character introduction... y'know, all the stuff that they tell you to do in any first-year writing class? You won't find any of it here. Seriously. You know how the main character's allies are introduced? They literally just drop in during the midst of a fight. Literally drop in. From this zeppelin/plane thingy (no, we don't know what it is or where it came from). That's it. We're expected to know who the hell they are. I am so happy I downloaded this one rather than renting it. I'm not so happy that I actually watched it all the way through.
I just had to respond to this. Advent Children was weak on that stuff but that's mostly because it's a sequel to the game (and I'm not a fangirl, I've only played two FF games, FFVII being one of them). I actually think of it as a continuation. All the characters and such were introduced in that. If you're familiar with the game it's pretty good. I don't think it's amazing but I enjoyed it. This was a movie made for a specific audience and those are always hit and miss with everyone outside of that target group.
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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
C'mon people, I recognize you from the MST3K thread; insulting our intelligence is no reason to spit out a movie. It may be the very ingredient that entertains us. I see the zipper in his lizard suit, I see the wire holding up the spaceship.
Sure there's a lot of insulting schlock out there, but ain't we tough enough to take it? I think we are.
I agree with this whole heartedly. I love a good piece of crap movie. They can really make you laugh. I've had a couple marathons for things like this with a cousin whose B horror fanatic and a friend whose obsessed with MST3K.
Ever heard of Zombi 3? No, I didn't spell it wrong. It's originaly Italian I believe. The Zombi series goes through at least 5 and from what I can tell, non of them have anything to do with each other but I've only watched #3 all the way through. It takes place in China and there are ninja zombies at one point. And you can see the guy with the smoke machine ducking around a corner in one scene. Lots of laughs.
And Jack Frost. This movie has nothing to do with Michael Keaton. It's about a serial killer incarnate in a snow man. And the sequel takes place on a tropical island. Actually, These two seem to be bad on purpose. They really make fun of the whole thing, especially the second one.
Any of the Critters movies..Oh yeah! Caveman with Ringo Star! Not a recent movie but still funny in a sad kind of way. And it has a young Dennis Quaid dressed in furs and skins. Mmmmmmmm
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Can't believe you included the Fulci flicks. Okay, Italian zombie flicks kinda suck. But Zombi 2 rocked ass.
We need a MST3K with Browncoat hosts for "mainstream" movies. Sure might make them a bit more interesting.
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Oh I gotta touch in here.
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While I haven't seen the movie (it's yet to be released) and I don't know the genre, I did read that in Dakota Fanning's next movie she does partial nudity and is raped.
A 12 year old girl nude and raped on film? I suspect that's gonna' be pretty G.D. offensive...
FYI, for them that don't know - Dakota Fanning is the voice of Lilo, from Lilo and Stitch.
The working title of said monstrosity is "Hound Dog" and from the beginning it seemed naught more than 'fanservice' for pervos and freaks - considering the script ran heavy to those scenes and virtually nil on plot, currently funding has been suspended by the production company because of the furor, helped along in part by yours truly...
It completely shocks me that
A. There's a sufficient audience wanting to see Lilo molested, enough that this perv thinks he can make money on it.
B. That anyone would finance or invest in such a thing.
C. That any theatre would run it.
Anyhow, currently the original financer has caved, and hopefully no one else is warped enough to step forward and pay for this horror.
Just so ya know,
-Frem
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I haven’t seen this movie and certainly not this scene, and odds are good that if it comes to the cinema I won’t go see it. It’s just not my cup o’tea.
I’m not sure what I think of this. I think there is a lot of overreacting to this scene. I’ve seen rape scenes of young girls on tv dramas before, and I don’t remember anyone getting hysterical over those. The subject matter is definitely weighty and probably offensive and disturbing, and this particularly scene is probably pushing the envelope, but I’m not quite ready to say the filming of the scene represents any more perversion then is usually widely accepted on tv and in Hollywood. I reserve the right to change my mind on that.
That being said, the only thing I’m uncomfortable with is the parents of Miss Fanning. I’m not going to judge them and say they aren’t good parents, but I can’t imagine that I would be comfortable putting my 12 year old daughter in a position in which she would have to act out a rape scene, as tastefully as it may be, much less appear nude on screen. Being as talented an actress as Dakota Fanning is can be very doubled edged. She might get an Oscar. Personally, I think Fanning is the most impressive young actresses in the movies today. Does Miss Fannings ability to act out a rape scene necessarily mean she has the maturity to understand it, and is any possible resulting neuroses worth any subsequent benefit? I don’t know, and I have to trust that her parents are able to make that determination. The number of young Actresses and Actors that end up in bad stead in later life as a consequence of their careers does make me a little bit uncomfortable with this.
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Originally posted by HeWhoKicksAlot:
Two words:
STARSHIP TROOPERS
I'm hard-pressed to pick a single scene. They were all entirely offensive, either to my intelligence or my sense of creativity.
Perhaps the most offensive (or nearly so) scene involves one officer's brain being sucked out of his head by a large bug's spiky tendril. Because, sure, sucking out someone's gray matter through a straw would of course instill you with all of their intelligence and insight...
"People actually pay money for this crap?"
Rob O.
What?! Great movie. I will still stay with Ultraviolet. There is another movie I rented once that almost made me throw up.."something" the clown. It's about a clown that gets raped by hillbillies. Kind of Clock W. Orange meets Deliverance....Messed up stuff.
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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?
One movie I remember going to as a kid that was so bad my mother had to come (on a bus) and bring me home. I was seeing it with my older brothers (who were only a few years older than me) and they and she warned me that it might be too scary for someone my age. But as all kids do I told them I'd be alright, I wanted to go, I didn't think it would be so bad. Boy was I wrong.
It was called Grizzley and it was about this huge grizzley that was running around the woods killing people. I was young, neive, stupid. I didn't think there would be blood, I thought it was about a sweet bear.
I was only a little rattled during the movie, till it came to a point where a small boy only a little younger than me was hugged(crushed) by the grizzley and his head either popped off or he was split in two (I know body parts were involved) I screamed and cried and my bro's had to call my mom to come get me (in between I told you so's) because I didn't want to stay. My bro's didn't want to leave because they were enjoying themselves and thought it wasn't fair they had to leave just because their stupid little sister couldn't handle a little violence (Asshats) but really at that point you want the one who'll comfort you most and I wanted my mommy.
So I waited (by myself) in the lobby, my bro's OCCASIONALLY coming to check on me waiting for my mom. And stupid me as if I didn't get enough I popped my head in occasionally to see what was happening. My mom showed up after a long wait (bus) and by then the movie was over and we all went home and from that moment if certain movies appealed to me I'm warned off them.
Till it came to Event Horizon. My bro warned me (one of the two I saw Grizzley with years ago) I should have listened.
*whew* Haven't thought of that in years.If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting
LOL..My mother took me and my brothers to see Grizzly at the drive-in when we were kids. She thought it was a Disney movie. We are all sitting in the car eating popcorn....Bang! the bear rips the head off of a horse..My mother sits up quickly and says "Whoa time to go kids". I had nightmares for years.
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