Watch what you wish for!
POSTED BY: kaneman
UPDATED: Monday, August 14, 2006 04:32
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There are many posts here in RW that make me head scratch. What do you want?..The Middle Eastern Islamofascists to "
Beat" the "Western progressive minds"?..What do you think their agenda is? Islamofacists will enslave your your women and behead you! You are a Frakin infidel! Just read their redirects and religion..Kill the infidel's..The first group they will eliminate are western liberals.....Anyone who believes in Women's rights, Gay marriage, or any progressive liberal thought will be the first to go...It's why they hate the "West" to begin with..They have more in common with Republicans than with liberals...It is one of the greatest Ironies going. There is no intelligent response to this...Just "TRYING" to have one makes my point. And you know it..They don't hate the west because of Hero or Auraptor..they hate us because of you...Watch what you wish for!!!!
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Um, the thing is, kaneman, these Islamo-fascists you're talking about don't have a chance in hell of carrying out your fantasy. Yes, they may kill a few thousand people every, oh I don't know, five years?
Well, not yet.
Maybe, every ten?
So every ten years a few thousand Americans die from spectacular terror attacks? Even this worst case scenario ain't gonna break us, kaneman. More Americans die in car wrecks and from cancer and from a million other causes and it don't put a dent in the American Way.
You and folks like you are taking the stated wishes of a few outlaws and imaginatively granting them near infinite power to bring their fantasies to fruition. The evil blood-thirsty Koran wasn't written yesterday. The "jihadists" have had hundreds and hundreds of years to get their game on and it's amounted to very little, politically speaking--
--until the neo-cons made 9/11 their pretext for launching a full-frontal power-grab in the Middle East. Because of Bush and Co., these political nobodies have more press than they've gotten in 30 years and more influence than they could have gained any other way. These folks don't even run a country, their infrastructure is constantly under attack and their membership constantly in harm's way and they are not, inspite of American hysteria, gaining ground (and please, don't talk to me about Iraqi "insergents," that is a whole different issue).
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Think America's WTC? Think Spanish bus terminals, Think Japanese subways, Think France's suburbs, Think England's Parliament... THAT"S FAAANTESSSEEEEY? One thing in common..Islamo terrorists..Do not let your hatred of the US cloud your Judgement...Terrorism rides the same freight train as progress. First stop? Liberal Station!
PS. Your "few thousand people every five years or so" are Thousands of others' Grandparents, Children, Husbands, Wives, Loved ones, etc...Lamest argument ever...Like The post says "Watch what you wish for"! Put to "Troll" country! There is no Intelligent discussion on this topic outside of mine!
PSS. Car wrecks and smoking are human error that do not have ILLINTENT AT HEART..you must understand that?...or maybe not. I forget sometimes, all on this board are "Shiny type folks".....erm please..Where is Citz' back ass logic when you freaks like you need it most!
PSSS..Those "Few outlaws" take down Buildings, Planes, Subways, Boats, Lob rockets at sovereign states, Behead civilian workers, etc...All REAL victims..Like really dead dude...like totally dead!!!!! For what? Religion!
PSSSS. Hey, Hey, Hey. Don't be dumb. We don't have to be dumb, Because, Remember, no mater where we go..We have HK Cav!
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THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Okay, kaneman, we're stretching the usefulness of internet communication here. You seem pretty irate. You're jumping to a lot of conclusions. I'll try to make myself clearer. If I don't see any progress in your next post toward understanding me, I will not reply.
Quote:Firstly, I was not suggesting that any of these attacks you mentioned were unreal or fantastical. Good grief, what a bizarre opinion you must hold of me!
Originally posted by kaneman:
Think America's WTC? Think Spanish bus terminals, Think Japanese subways, Think France's suburbs, Think England's Parliament... THAT"S FAAANTESSSEEEEY?
The fantasy I was talking about, the fantasy you neo-con apologists love to repeat in varying degrees of lurid detail was this:
Quote:No, kaneman, they won't. I repeat, there is no chance in hell that Islamo-fascists will ever be in a position to enslave American women en masse, or cut off the head of any RWED forum poster you care to name. It's pure hysterical fantasy.
Islamofacists will enslave your your women and behead you!
Quote:kaneman, what evidence do you have that I hate the US? I mean real evidence. What have I said that is consistent with hating the US? What is it with you guys and imagining that people who simply disagree with you must hate America?
Do not let your hatred of the US cloud your Judgement...Terrorism rides the same freight train as progress. First stop? Liberal Station!
Seriously, where do you get this crap? It honestly saddens and disgusts me to be told this over an internet forum. It is my love for our amazing country that demands that I speak out against the corporate interests that are trying to dismantle our legitimate government and create a perminent majority based on greed and global military dominance.
Quote:Your rant is so misplaced. Do you think I'm advocating that we simply sit back and do nothing, that we should simply and coldly let these people die? Where do you get that idea, kaneman? Man, kaneman, are you new here or what? You have absolutely no clue who I am or how I feel.
PS. Your "few thousand people every five years or so" are Thousands of others' Grandparents, Children, Husbands, Wives, Loved ones, etc...Lamest argument ever...Like The post says "Watch what you wish for"! Put to "Troll" country! There is no Intelligent discussion on this topic outside of mine!
Again, I was objecting to your premise that the Islamo-fascists would enslave our women and take off my head. I was saying that the most they could do was kill people in terrorist attacks. I did not mean to imply that killing people in a terrorist attack was somehow unimportant or excusable.
I simply meant to suggest that terrorist attacks do not take over countries, kaneman! They don't. And they won't take over this one. Please, don't try to paint me as an inhumanly cold monster that doesn't care about the loss of life.
Quote:How old are you, kaneman? I'm imagining that you are very young to speak so rudely without cause.
PSS. Car wrecks and smoking are human error that do not have ILLINTENT AT HEART..you must understand that?...or maybe not. I forget sometimes, all on this board are "Shiny type folks".....erm please..Where is Citz' back ass logic when you freaks like you need it most!
You seem to suggest that punishing wrong doers is more important than saving lives, that someone dying in a car wreck is less important or tragic than someone dying in a terrorist attack.
Again, you were suggesting in your original post that terrorism presented a great threat to our American way of life, and I was saying that it actually didn't. That's all.
Quote:Hey kaneman, are you aware of the logical fallacy called "emotional appeal?"
PSSS..Those "Few outlaws" take down Buildings, Planes, Subways, Boats, Lob rockets at sovereign states, Behead civilian workers, etc...All REAL victims..Like really dead dude...like totally dead!!!!! For what? Religion!
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Oh did someone want 'my' backwards logic?
Okay here goes, here's an attempt at backwards 'ass' logic:
Terrorism was invented in September 11 2001! There's a terrorist under my bed! They hate all our freedoms! So to fight them we have to destroy our freedoms! They want to take our freedoms, so to stop them lets take away our freedoms first, then they can't take them away!
How's that? I think I did rather well.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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I want the islamofascists to have the right to swing their arms at a distance which does not reach my nose.
1. 9-11, cheney, rummy, wolfowitz, perle, hillary, difi, nelson, kristol, etc. hijackers, not islamic.
2. lot of arm swinging room in the middle east.
3. islamofasicsts. islam, sure, fascists, believers in power, sure, mono-ethnic societies, yeah, hard militant rule, sometimes. Yeah, I guess islamofascists is fair. But the problem is, actually, only some of our opponents are islamofascists. We're also being opposed by islamolibertarians.
But also, islamofascists have the right to be both islamo and fascist. The fascist party has ruled austria for years, and no one complains. Why should they? It's a political perspective. Because fascists killed millions of innocent people in wwii? democrats (sorry guys) dropped two atomic bombs on japan, communists exterminated more people than fascists, and sadly republicans are now backing the genocidal pograms of wait a second, what's the word, can we get a new one out here, judeofascists? (no offense to the jewish members of the forum) But seriously, could any rush limbaugh get away with such a word today?
The problem here is that we are still running a racists society. We look at groups by their race, and not by the content of their political movement. We see jews as 'victims' and as 'liberals' whatever that means anymore. But israel is a monoethnic militant society which worships power, which is more or less our working definition of fascism.
If we want to define fascism by intent, which perhaps we should, since no one calls the japanese fascists anymore, or the s. koreans, but they do say it of the n. koreans, that under such a new definition, a whole slab of white supremacists will get dropped from the title, and some black power groups might get added. Which reminds me of another thing, just a curious question.
What has the nation of islam been up to? Does anyone hear from them? are they being profiled as suspected terrorists? Someone detaining Louis Farrahkhan at airports?
anyway, fascism doesn't imply that you're on a campaign of regional conquest (imho zion-america is on one), but austria is not on a campaign of regional conquest of europe, nor japan of asia.
I think if we're going to define fascist as an ideolgy of regional conquest, torture, massive depopulation, etc. we might have to bring out the term judeofascism.
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They also believe that western countries don't have the stones(balls) or intestinal fortitude(guts)to continue to oppose them. After reading some of the opinions sheared here, it would appear so.
Just the other day I watched a family of middle eastern people walking to the store ...the women[covered from head to toe in cloth] stayed 3 steps behind the men... I approached the men to ask why this was... from what I gathered the woman is a defilement and she is only the property of the man if he wishes and she was ever out ahead of the man then all kinds of rituals would incur to clean the sin(right about here my eyes glazed over cause I knew from reading other stuff what these people were all about)there was a few other explanations about their way of how women should be treated but I'm sure you can see where these people are at as far as a equality type society. If you don't know how Muslim's treat women then ask one he will tell you they are proud of it.
One more thing... they believe it not to be a sin to lie to any non-Muslim. SSSSssooo ...you can not believe any thing they say to non-Muslims.
Which can only lead one to believe they are liars bent only on world domination.
Good post KANEMAN thank you.
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If these people ever gained a strong foot hold here in the USA their agenda would accelerate only to be kept at some control by every gun toten' NRA member and non-NRA member who wish to die free.
I've been through the system.
It don't be work.
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Quote:
Originally posted by DukKati:
One more thing... they believe it not to be a sin to lie to any non-Muslim. SSSSssooo ...you can not believe any thing they say to non-Muslims.
Which can only lead one to believe they are liars bent only on world domination.
"Leap of logic" must be your middle name.
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