What Do You Buffy Types Think About Blade?

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UPDATED: Thursday, August 10, 2006 04:30
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CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 15, 2006 6:22 PM

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Originally posted by danfan:

Loved Carpenter's original Vampire$. Especially with Carpenter's commentary. The sequel seemed like filler.

There was a sequel? Did he direct it? Where was I?

And Danfan, no love for Night Stalker?
How about you, Danfan? Either of you?

I'm of two minds Chrisisall

SAFEAT2ND

Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:01 PM

Loved Dusk Til Dawn! Never saw the sequel.

I'll have to go see Vampires now. I was kinda Blah on the chronicles too, both book and film versions.

Have to say I didn't mind Angel, strongly disliked the whole "Son of Angel", pouty storyline though

Safeat2nd, Chief Handyman of Destiny

DANFAN

Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
There was a sequel? Did he direct it? Where was I?

Vampires: Los Muertos (aka, John Carpenter's Vampires:Los Muertos). Made in 2002. Directed by Tommy Lee Wallace. Carpenter was executive producer. My read on that was Carpenter sold them his name, but he didn't sell them his creative input. In my opinion, it shows. Plus, Jon Bon Jovi doesn't work for me as an action hero. Your mileage may vary...

Can I get a shout out for Lifeforce? I thought it was an interesting SF take on the vampire myth. I liked it.

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And Danfan, no love for Night Stalker?
How about you, Danfan? Either of you?

I'm of two minds Chrisisall

I forgot about Night Stalker! I LOVED the first movie. I thought it was one of the most tightly written made-for-tv vampire movies ever. I was especially impressed by the way that they never allowed you to hear the vampire speak. It made him more otherworldly... more like something non-human that masquerades as one of us. Very cool.

Yeah, I really liked it as well. He tends to run off at the mouth about it... but I agree with his analysis. Thought the second Stalker flick fell flat though.

It had a few good moments. Jerk.

Motormouth.

Will you two just stop it? I'm trying to get some sleep here!

DANFAN

Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by safeat2nd:
Loved Dusk Til Dawn! Never saw the sequel.

I'll have to go see Vampires now. I was kinda Blah on the chronicles too, both book and film versions.

Have to say I didn't mind Angel, strongly disliked the whole "Son of Angel", pouty storyline though

Safeat2nd, Chief Handyman of Destiny

Roger that on "Son of Angel." Both my wife and I were rooting for Connor to get killed off WAY before the end of his storyline.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:36 PM

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Originally posted by danfan:

Can I get a shout out for Lifeforce? I thought it was an interesting SF take on the vampire myth. I liked it.

Nice mix of vampire/space/special effects/Playboy; I quite enjoyed it. Very dark.

Second Night Stalker (Night Strangler) was sort of the pilot for the series. Buffy would take it to another level, though.

Chrisisall, dripping with blood

DANFAN

Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:36 PM

Final thought...

No one will EVER top James Woods "strada chocolada" rant on the original Vampire$. I fell out of the theater seat laughing the first time I heard it. According the Carpenter's commentary on the DVD, it is entirely improv. Woods came to him and said "Let me try something here..."

AURAPTOR

Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I keep pushing the Blade factor because no one seems to be willing to give me there opinion of Blade.

I really like Blade. He's noble, and he's a serious slayer type. He's handsome, he's strong, and he's on the side of humanity. He also has a sense of humor.

Thank god for Buffy, Angel, and Blade. True heros.

River

I never really liked Vampires. That is, I never cared for the whole Vampire/Demon genre. But I must admit, I've found it fun to see the variations of how Vampires and such are depicted in modern pop culture. I've never read Ann Rice, but I enjoy comparing the characters from her movies to those in the Whedon'verse as well as Blade, etc. I of course wonder about the most mundane issues... 'what makes one vampire stronger than another, how do their bodies function if they're dead , etc....

Also, I have to wonder too what would happen if Blade met up w/ Angel, or would Le Stat and Spike get along ? And what would happen if Drusilla and Darla met up w/ Selene, from Underworld ?

( I swear, I barely read comics much as a kid, so this isn't some hold over from a DC v Marvel hang up.

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People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

RIVER6213

Friday, June 16, 2006 6:02 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I keep pushing the Blade factor because no one seems to be willing to give me there opinion of Blade.

I really like Blade. He's noble, and he's a serious slayer type. He's handsome, he's strong, and he's on the side of humanity. He also has a sense of humor.

Thank god for Buffy, Angel, and Blade. True heros.

River

I never really liked Vampires. That is, I never cared for the whole Vampire/Demon genre. But I must admit, I've found it fun to see the variations of how Vampires and such are depicted in modern pop culture. I've never read Ann Rice, but I enjoy comparing the characters from her movies to those in the Whedon'verse as well as Blade, etc. I of course wonder about the most mundane issues... 'what makes one vampire stronger than another, how do their bodies function if they're dead , etc....

Also, I have to wonder too what would happen if Blade met up w/ Angel, or would Le Stat and Spike get along ? And what would happen if Drusilla and Darla met up w/ Selene, from Underworld ?

( I swear, I barely read comics much as a kid, so this isn't some hold over from a DC v Marvel hang up. )

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

Hate to say it but if Angel ran into Blade, Blade would defeat him. If Blade ran into Buffy and Angel, Blade would win. If Blade ran into Faith, Buffy, and Angel. Blade would still win. If Blade ran into Buffy and River, Blade would have a problem and might have to run for it, but he would still have done damage.

Blade is a tough fighter, but he's also into technology, which he uses. Staking him with all that armor on wouldn’t do. Buffy would have to change her tactics. River would have to rely on speed, and Blade is just as fast as she is. River’s ability to read minds would help. Buffy might actually be a liability in the fight.

I was never an Anne Rice fan but I read all her stuff and hated it. I was not much into Vampires at all until I watched Blade. The 1st Blade movie, the opening sequence caught me by surprise. From that point on Blade became a hero to me. I love the one going against the many.

Another point. Blade has a soul. He’s half human and half vampire…the Day Walker he is. I guess in the end. Blade and his group vs. Buffy, Angel and Faith plus the scoobies. Blade would win. The deciding factor would be Willow, and she’s not included in this fight.

River

AURAPTOR

Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:26 AM

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Hate to say it but if Angel ran into Blade, Blade would defeat him. If Blade ran into Buffy and Angel, Blade would win. If Blade ran into Faith, Buffy, and Angel. Blade would still win. If Blade ran into Buffy and River, Blade would have a problem and might have to run for it, but he would still have done damage.

Blade is a tough fighter, but he's also into technology, which he uses. Staking him with all that armor on wouldn’t do. Buffy would have to change her tactics. River would have to rely on speed, and Blade is just as fast as she is. River’s ability to read minds would help. Buffy might actually be a liability in the fight.

I was never an Anne Rice fan but I read all her stuff and hated it. I was not much into Vampires at all until I watched Blade. The 1st Blade movie, the opening sequence caught me by surprise. From that point on Blade became a hero to me. I love the one going against the many.

Another point. Blade has a soul. He’s half human and half vampire…the Day Walker he is. I guess in the end. Blade and his group vs. Buffy, Angel and Faith plus the scoobies. Blade would win. The deciding factor would be Willow, and she’s not included in this fight.

Not that I disagree w/ any particular point, as I see Blade more of a 'man' amongst the boys and girls vs the Scooby gang. But then again, would they necessarily HAVE to fight each other ? Angel and Buffy are on the same side. Angel has a soul too, so that seems to me that they'd possibly be more friends than foes. But wouldn't Blade's 1/2 human side make him less strong than , say Angel? Sure, he's the Day Walker, but what about in the dark places ? At night ?

I was just musing that it would be interesting to see what would happen should these characters cross each others paths. I'd think that some alliances would form, as well as some conflict.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

ROLAND19

Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Staking him with all that armor on wouldn’t do.

Now you've got me thinking. Does Blade have to be killed like a normal vamp? He's the daywalker, and pretty human, so can he be killed like a normal human, or would he have to be dusted?

Hmm...

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