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Angry liberal guy rant

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:24 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
But can you site anything good that Bush has done (That isn't good for just big corporations, I mean)?


Chrisisall?



Well, there's no reason you can't accept the tax cuts as being good for everybody. The high tide raises all boats, big and small. That's the benefit of a strong economy, which are the result in large part to tax cuts.

I'd add Justies Roberts and Alito. Both extremely well qualified.

Also, some Fed Appeals Court appointees. I see those as being very good, but understand that time will tell.

Appointing Condoleeza Rice as the first black female Sec. of State. That's very good.

Killing the Kyoto Treaty. I'm very glad he did that, and see it as all good.






People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:42 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I'd ask you to give examples, but you won't.



heres some substance: why any president past, present, or future would say this is beyond me.


Bush:
"You know, I've experienced many great moments, and it's hard to name the best," Bush told weekly Bild am Sonntag when asked about his high point since becoming president in January 2001.

"I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5-pound perch in my lake," he told the newspaper in an interview published Sunday. Bush said the worst moment was Sept. 11, 2001, when hijacked planes crashed into the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.

It was mentioned that the lake was manmade and stocked.. rich boy achievements.. woo hoo!

and yes, I fully understand Kerry is a rich boy too... I am not going to defend him... for IQ or Morals... people need to stop that... but lets talk here and now... something WE CAN CHANGE

AUR.. u serious? Man can't do anything about global warming. Certain cities have Flexfuel pumps and they are spreading (only one city in my state, working to change that) Is this just a hobby? NO. People realize that we don't have to use fossil fuels.

OK. the war, I here a lot "we gonna get them before they get us." Understood... I know that area is volatile and why? two main reasons in my mind. Religous conflict that has been going on for centuries and the battle for power... face it power comes from money and fear... but mostly money to pay people to scare people.. where are they getting the money from? long before I was on the planet they were getting rich off of oil. So, if all the oil nations were peaceful, would we still say hey lets make them rich for a fuel we have a clean alternative too. Some, rich boys sure think so….

***NO ONE confuse this, with a war about Oil! It is not about that now... bad people are in power... just talkin root causes here and the US needs their roots badly***

Don't wait til the gas is 6 bucks a gallon to take to the streets.

So, while God is telling Bush to fight a crusade:
we are burning up,
having civil liberties taken away,
afraid to be sick,
scared of hurricanes,
encroached by borders,
placing burdens on our children,
etc.

I am sorry when our gov't breaks OUR laws I get pissst.

Pick one and i'll give examples...
Go ahead, fire back… I am of course wearing full body armor, I am not a moron.

Why you think "Earth got used up"

Disclaimer: Geez, I live on the coast and my college mascot is a pirate so I use the pirate image, I am in no way affiliated with PN.


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Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:51 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Have you thought about picking up a hobby, something non internet related ?

I've got several, socialising with friends (if you haven't worked out what friends are by now I'm not going to explain it too you), Martial Arts, Rock climbing, Sailing, I play the guitar, keep animals the list goes on. About the only thing I don't do is waste away on my couch drinking beer after beer while watching trashy cable TV .

I only post on a couple of forums; actually this is the main one. I realise you split your time pretty radically between all those Neo-Nazi and minority hate group websites .

Ever thought of getting a hobby yourself? Something not related to making a tit of yourself?
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Doesn't even take a reply to me or a reply to what someone else said ABOUT me, you still are compelled to post something.
I know this is a hard concept for you to grasp, but it was a reply to both something you said and a reply someone made to you, wasn't it .

I mean hell, we have to point everything out to you don't we.
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Never any substance w/ you folks, but plenty of vitriol. Bravo!
You should see a psychiatrist; your mind must be a fascinating place, in a barren desert filled with little more than tumbleweed kind of a way...

It’s simply amazing how you so consistently manage to accuse others of being, well you.

Now back to following what you’re told by Fox news while you waste your life away watching TV drinking your liver into Cirrhosis…

Wouldn’t want to interrupt your daily routine now would I .




More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
But can you site anything good that Bush has done (That isn't good for just big corporations, I mean)?


Chrisisall?



Well, there's no reason you can't accept the tax cuts as being good for everybody. The high tide raises all boats, big and small. That's the benefit of a strong economy, which are the result in large part to tax cuts.

I'd add Justies Roberts and Alito. Both extremely well qualified.

Also, some Fed Appeals Court appointees. I see those as being very good, but understand that time will tell.

Appointing Condoleeza Rice as the first black female Sec. of State. That's very good.

Killing the Kyoto Treaty. I'm very glad he did that, and see it as all good.


Some of this is good, okay, but nothing here anybody else could not have done half awake. No hard or astounding work here. And balanced against the bad and/or questionable aspects, it's pretty weak, I'm afraid.

Wake up, my friend, this is a case where the minority is thrilled with a loser.

Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:34 PM

I was replyinng to signym's post:

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I'm angry at Auraptor, who is right there with the prez in terms of neurons and morality. (few and none respectively). It's like I say....


And I replied w/ a request of him showing where MY morals were on display. He doesn't even know anything about me, and he's making value judgements based on speculation.

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:47 PM




Chrisisall?





Killing the Kyoto Treaty. I'm very glad he did that, and see it as all good.




WHAT!!!!! I'm sorry, I don't normally get involved in the Politics threads (not because I don't have opinions but because I'm not a big fan of arguements), but I just had to comment on this.

Are you really serious that you think it is a good thing that Bush refuses to own up to the large part America is playing in the destruction of the planet or do anything about solving it?

Maybe you were anti the Kyoto Principle because it didn't go far enough. This is certainly tru, as even if it was implemented the first time it was proposed it would only go about a quarter of the way to stemming the flood of damage caused by carbon emissions. Still, I have to tell you that America's refusal to have anything to do with trying to fix this problem has caused a lot of bad feeling.

I was in a pub the other day (in th UK) and someone raised this topic and out of the 20 or so people there there was universal condemnation of the US for their arrogant selfishness on this issue. In fact there got to be such an uncomfortable atmosphere of hatred of America that I had to point out that all the Americans I have personally met are decent and concientious people who disagree with the outrageous politics of their country. One day I hope to see that the most powerful county in the world will actually start to reflect the morals of some of its inhabitants (actually any morals at all would be good!).

Anyway, I'm probably inviting a lot of people to start shouting at me now so I'm running away to do some work!!

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 12:53 PM

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Some of this is good, okay, but nothing here anybody else could not have done half awake. No hard or astounding work here.


I was asked to give examples, and I gave examples. Getting tax cuts passed does take an act of Congress, literally! ( FYI, the phrase, " it takes an act of congress to get this done " is sometimes used here to refer to something which won't get done unless a tremendous amount of time/effort is put into said task. Essentially, saying that means it won't get done at all, or that if it is, it'll be so screwed up by completion that it truly will have been a waste of time.

Much of what goes on in Washington D.C. does defy logic. The 'inside the beltway' mindset becomes distorted and disconnected w/ the rest of the nation. You say it doesn't take much to got done what Bush accomplished. And normally, that SHOULD be the case, and yet no one DID do it until he got there. Thanks to the bureaucracy. of D.C., what most folks agree 'should' be done never sees the light of day. And much which never should occur happens on a daily basis ( eg) Patrick Kennedy sideswiping a police car, smashing into a concrete barrier, staggering out of the car and NOT getting charged w/ a DUI. Even AFTER he claimed he had no memory of those events! Anyone else does the same thing, they're in jail But a KENNEDY does it....the police drive him home, tuck him in bed and calls the tow service to take his wrecked car away.

And yes, Patrick Kennedy is a Democrat, from Rhode Island, and son of Senator TED Kennedy.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:01 PM

I was in a pub the other day (in th UK) and someone raised this topic and out of the 20 or so people there there was universal condemnation of the US for their arrogant selfishness on this issue. In fact there got to be such an uncomfortable atmosphere of hatred of America that I had to point out that all the Americans I have personally met are decent and concientious people who disagree with the outrageous politics of their country. One day I hope to see that the most powerful county in the world will actually start to reflect the morals of some of its inhabitants (actually any morals at all would be good!).




I'd suggest you drink at another pub. Folks there are clearly uninformed. The US isn't in the least bit 'arrogant or selfish' on this issue. There's a great deal of demagoguing going on here, and fanning the flames of discontent. The Kyoto treaty wouldn't remotely come close to it's objective. It's primary accomplishment would be to punish the USA economically while turning a blind eye to other nations which pollute w/ out any recourse.

Cheers

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:03 PM

Patrick Kenedy or Dick Cheney, it don't make a difference. They do what they want, get away with it, and we watch. We can call them on it, or make excuses for them, as our own comfort demands; these boys are above the law.

Uneasy with the idea that we are 'little people'?
Is that why you must allign yourself with the power?

They care nothing for us.

Watch Serenity Chrisisall

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:08 PM

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Originally posted by EmmaRigby:



Chrisisall?




Killing the Kyoto Treaty. I'm very glad he did that, and see it as all good.




WHAT!!!!!
Well, I didn't mean this in particular was good...
I don't think anything we do now can stop global warming, however I DO think it's not taken seriously enough, and as such, will be a problem we 'suddenly' become aware of as it's teeth begin to be felt in our collective posterior.

Chrisisall ouch now

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