Angry liberal guy rant
POSTED BY: STDOUBT
UPDATED: Thursday, May 18, 2006 01:45
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I’m angry about the shredding of the constitution ( it's not being shredded )
The president is seizing far more power than he is given by the Constitution, he has been basically saying that he can do whatever he wants because he is the law, which is false.
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…illegal wiretaps…( there aren't any wire taps, and the NSA program isn't illegal )
Um, did you miss that thing where Bush himself said that the wiretaps weren't illegal because he could do whatever he wanted? WHERE BUSH SAID THAT THERE WERE WIRETAPS? Also, if he doesn't get a warrant from FISA within 72 hours it is illegal.
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falsified intelligence…( nope, none of that either )
Falsified maybe not. Exaggerated beyond reality? Most definitely
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secret prisons…( yeah, I approve of that one. Good job! )
Just be sure to never speak out against the Pres or you may find yourself in one as an 'enemy combatant'.
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use of torture as an accepted means of interrogation( gotta agree w/ that one too! Although it's not torture. Pity )
See above
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…Terry Schiavo…( You're kidding, right ? )
Not sure exactly what either of you are saying with this one so I guess I shouldn't have bothered copying it.
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the war on science( ummm..you mean the view that embryonic stem cell study is entitled to Fed Funds? )
I imagine that he was talking about the pushing of "Intelligent Design" instead of science in schools. You may be right though. He may be talking about the embryos that are going in the trash instead of towards medical research because a few people are too worried that babies will be concieved just to be sold to researchers, which is ludicrous considering how many embryos are thrown away anyways.
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…denial of Global Warming ( where cries of which are greatly exaggereated, and not a damn thing man can do about it anyways)
Exaggerated I'll admit, but it is real and we have to try to do something about it.
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…the fascistic secrecy of our elected officials…( only to be outdone by the fanatical leaks of some political zealots on the Left )
I think the secrecy far outdoes the leaks, but it is partisanship at its best (sarcasm)
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presidential signings that declare the President above the law…( Remember this little gem " Stroke of the pen, Law of the land...Kinda cool! " Paul Begala , during the Clinton White House )
Bush has put out more than 4 times the signing statements of Clinton, and Bush even has control of Congress so he shouldn't have to. This is just one example of Bush wanting to be above the law "I don't like that law so I'm going to re-write it in my own image"
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the breakdown of the wall between church and state…( break down? HA! )
Intelligent Design, Abortion, Religious Conservatives appointed to the Supreme Court, yeah the wall hasn't broken yet, but it's cracking.
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the outing of a clandestine CIA agent for purely partisan political gain…( You're talking about Joe Wilson outing his own wife ? )
Um no I believe that he was talking about the Bush Administration outing mrs. Plame. Which according to their own guy was ordered by Bush.
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the corrupting influence of K Street…( Congressman William Jefferson (D- LA )? )
Not sure what K street is...skipping.
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the total sell-out of the legislative process to corporate interests…( No worse than a total sell out of US security under Clinton to the Chinese )
Actually they are probably about equal...except that the corporations will benefit more by ruthlessly screwing us.
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appointments of unqualified cronies at every level of government…Harriet Miers…Brownie…( How about Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Justices Roberts and Alito? )
Colin Powell quit because he didn't like Bush's policies, Roberts and Alito are qualified but there are doubtless much more qualified people for the positions, Condi doesn't seem to be anything sp
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Originally posted by STDOUBT:Quote:
Globalist as in our Border Patrol telling the Mexican Gov't where the Minutemen patrols are going to be ? You're right. But I wish the folks who got ticked off at Bush over stuff like that also wouldn't give Clinton a pass at the stuff he did. That's all I'm sayin'.
We can argue Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative,
'till we're Divided/Conquered... Meanwhile our
country is getting shitcanned by the people in
power. It ain't about the PARTIES. That's
what I'm sayin'.
You can say that again. If it weren't so depressing, it would be rather comical the way they keep everyone distracted with the left/right circus. Open your eyes people. This isn't about cheerleading. Our leaders are screwing us! Does it really matter what team they're on???
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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I'm angry at Auraptor, who is right there with the prez in terms of neurons and morality. (few and none respectively). It's like I say....
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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Terry Schiavo…( You're kidding, right ? )
The government had better things to do than get involved in that dispute. Yes, the husband was acting like a jackass, but her parents weren't much better. Both turned what should have been a private affair into a media spectacle.
Furthermore, she had the right to die, if that's what she wanted. Yes, that's debatable, given that there was no will, but I tend to believe her husband wasn't an evil man. And the doctors also agreed that she was never going to recover. An autopsy performed after her death revealed that there was massive irreversible brain damage and that she was blind. Ergo, she couldn't actually see people or communicate with them. Her parents continue to believe that she was ok, despite the scientific evidence staring at them. (from: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8225637/ and any other news source)
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the war on science( ummm..you mean the view that embryonic stem cell study is entitled to Fed Funds? )
Why shouldn't we spend money on researching embryonic stem cells? Because they're "human beings"? "embryonic stem cells are typically created using frozen embryos that fertility clinics plan to discard" (from: http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2006/03/25/germans_announc
e_stem_cell_advance/). Fertility clinics throw out the extra ones; shouldn't they put to use instead of wasting that life. But I guess the trash is a better place to end up than possibly saving someone's life.
The "war on science" extends further than embryonic stem cells. Evolution vs. Intelligent Design vs. Creationism? Fossils? The age of Earth? I'm sorry Jerry Falwell, but dinosaur bones weren't put on earth by the devil in order to trick mere mortals. The "war on science" arguable extends to sex education as well. Research shows that abstinence only education fails, but despite scientific evidence to the contrary, people still look the other way and think that telling a teenager "don't do it" is an awesome idea. Though modern sex ed. is more like reproductive biology and hardly deserves the title sex education.
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…denial of Global Warming ( where cries of which are greatly exaggereated, and not a damn thing man can do about it anyways)
How are they exaggerated? The temperature IS going up. CO2 levels have increased exponentially since the industrial revolution (coincidence . . . doubtful). Over millions of years, the climate has been in flux; however, it's never been a man-made flux, nor has happened on as small of a time scale as the most recent one. I'm glad you think there isn't a damn thing we can do about it, but when New Orleans, NYC, Los Angeles, and other low lying coastal cities are underwater, I'll bet they will wish we had tried a little harder to slow-down/prevent global warming.
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the breakdown of the wall between church and state…( break down? HA! )
I don't know that "breakdown" is the word I'd choose, but the current administration certainly pursues nearly all policies from an evangelical christian point of view, which I believe isn't the point of view that's best for the country.
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the complete mismanagement of the war in Iraq…( kicked the hell out of Saddam in 3 weeks, didn't we ? ) the lies about the complete mismanagement of the war in Iraq ( oh yeah, the 'lies'. Ha ha ha! )
There weren't really any terrorists in Iraq. They would have been a threat to Saddam. There weren't any WMDs found in Iraq. I hardly think Saddam was a legitimate threat to U.S. safety. He is an evil bastard, as were his sons, but that's not necessarily viewed as a reason to kick out a leader. If it was a good reason, we would have ousted many other historically evil leaders (Suharto, Pol Pot, Ariel Sharon, Ferdinand Marcos, any # of genocidal dictators in Africa, etc), but Saddam was convenient.
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an environmental protection agency that refuses to protect the environment…( Except that the enviroment is better now than ever )[NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Re: mismanagement of the war
Troops are also being sent in completely unprepared. A family friend/distant cousin of mine is in the South Dakota National Guard and was sent to Iraq. What did he have to ask for for christmas from his parents? A compass along with other BASIC soldier necessities that weren't being provided to him.
But inadequately outfitting the soldiers must not fall under the term "mismanagement".
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Except that the enviroment is better now than ever )
Your level of self-delusion is astounding. That's one of the dumbest damned things I've ever heard.
Edit: Damn. My brother used my computer and didn't log out. So, the above was posted by Storymark.
Keep following the rest of the sheep. Baahaaa!
Fact is, there are rivers here that are cleaner now that would catch on fire because they were so dirty back in the 70's. Progress has been made, but some choose not to see it.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Auraptor - read, rinse, repeat, and it's not polite to talk with your mouth full:
www.workingforchange.com
The term "liberal" is likewise discredited, since it's officially synonymous with covert Communism, aka, neoCONism. Billionaire Kerry/Kohn is Skull & Bones and lies nekked in coffins masturbating with the Bushes, and he intentionally lost in 2004, refusing to spend $51-million in "leftover campaign funds" (legalized bribery), and refused recounts in Ohio and the other 49 states.
RepubliCONS and DemoRATS have sold out USA. They are two CRIMINAL gangs with mutual aid treaties to destroy USA for the New World Odor global shadow dictatorship, as proven by NAFTA SHAFTA and wide-open borders. The Masonic Mafia's double-headed eagle could be used as an anaology for the so-called "two party sytem" worldwide.
www.humphrey-masonic-center.org
www.srmason-sj.org/web/index.htm
The most bizarre proof of all is that "liberal Democrats" REFUSE to attack the Bushes for their confessed TREASON when they perped domestic TERRORISM against uSA on 9/11/2001. This is obviously a prearranged sellout of uSA, since the Democrats fought so hard to successfully defeat Bush Sr during Iran-Contra, when the Sr Bush White House was criminally prosecuted for narcoterrorism and confessed terrorist bombings to murder US citizens. Kerry wrote a 35-volume Congressional Report on his Iran-Contra hearings, and he could slam the Bushes for being narco kingpins, if he really wanted to win. But Kerry's family has been in the opium business with the Bush Gang for over 200 years, via Yale Skull & Bones' Russell Trust, and their corporate pirate flag of the Jolly Roger skull & crossbones.
Why is it that reformed Republicans are the only ones attacking Bushes for perping 9/11? Besides the obvious "3rd party" candidates in Libertarian and Constitutional Parties. Green and Reform Parties have been infiltrated, bought and paid for since at least 1992.
Honest intelligent folk need to run for local office, and play hardball to win, which means you can't count on votes to win. When you campaign against a criminal, you lock them up in jail. You DON'T trust a criminal to count the votes.
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Quote:My, that's certainly presumptious of you to say. It's debatable, ok, but that isn't what he's doing. Not by a long shot. He's doing what is necessary.
The president is seizing far more power than he is given by the Constitution, he has been basically saying that he can do whatever he wants because he is the law, which is false.
Quote:Yeah, I missed that part. Where did he say that? Got a quote ? Seems he does NOT need a warrant from the FISA court. Not every case is the same. Dealing w/ international terrorism is different than dealing w/ the mob. It's about WINNING, and those trying to undermine the US efforts to protect itself and its citizens is pretty fucking unbelievable.
Um, did you miss that thing where Bush himself said that the wiretaps weren't illegal because he could do whatever he wanted? WHERE BUSH SAID THAT THERE WERE WIRETAPS? Also, if he doesn't get a warrant from FISA within 72 hours it is illegal.
Quote:Exaggerated by whom ? Every other intel agency in the world? Bill Clinton, who said ...[
Falsified maybe not. Exaggerated beyond reality? Most definitely
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
Quote:That's about the most absurd thing I've seen posted here from anyone NOT named Piratenews. There's a wave of self induced paranoia here that hides in the guise of Bush hating. I already HAVE spoken out against the President. Many have, and they're not in jail. Hard to continue w/ any level of seriousness after your ridiculous comment.
Just be sure to never speak out against the Pres or you may find yourself in one as an 'enemy combatant'.
Quote:The I.D. nut jobs are a product of years of Creationites figuring a way to put religion back in the school. Bush has nothing to do w/ that movement. And as for Embryonic stem cell research, all Bush has done is cut FEDERAL funding. He's not in the least banned it, and private $$ is still free to be thrown down that spider hole. To date, there's every indication that adult stem cells, not from embryos, hold the best possibility for success. But fight those windmills all you want, it's of little concern to me.
I imagine that he was talking about the pushing of "Intelligent Design" instead of science in schools. You may be right though. He may be talking about the embryos that are going in the trash instead of towards medical research because a few people are too worried that babies will be concieved just to be sold to researchers, which is ludicrous considering how many embryos are thrown away anyways.
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(Global Warming ) Exaggerated I'll admit, but it is real and we have to try to do something about it.
What is 'real' is that the Earth heats and cools over time, regardless of whether humans even exists or not! 'Human initiated' global warming hasn't been verified, and there's plenty of evidence going back millions of years that shows mild variations in global temperature that has nothing to do w/ mankind.
Quote:Again, all this talk about Bush going outside or above the law is absurd. There have always been areas where one branch of Govt's powers end, and another branch of Gov't starts. There is nothing new about this in US politics in the least. We're at war, unless you've not kept up w/ current events. There is a very real enemy who has declared open war on pretty much all the West. You can't have things both ways where you get to criticize Bush for doing too little AND too much.
Bush has put out more than 4 times the signing statements of Clinton, and Bush even has control of Congress so he shouldn't have to. This is just one example of Bush wanting to be above the law "I don't like that law so I'm going to re-write it in my own image
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Piratenews - It's amazing how you cut/ paste all those funny, cute photos and reams of text from other sites, and yet you continue to say absolutely NOTHING!! That truly is a skill of morons unparalleled anywhere on this site. Congrats!
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:I think it's like talking to a three year old. Think about it, the level of mental reasoning is "daddy (George Bush) said" and when you inevitably prove him wrong he has a tempertantrum and calls you a big stupid head before running away to go sulk in his room (other thread).
Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm angry at Auraptor, who is right there with the prez in terms of neurons and morality. (few and none respectively).
It's really quite amusing, it is like talking to my god daughter sometimes, except her behaviour is improving (she's growing up) and she'd never use some of the words AURapter thinks are appropriate. I guess she's a better behaved three year old than AU.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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