Serenity layout

POSTED BY: TallGuy
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TALLGUY

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Noocyte:
Knight;
A bit of caution: It does not appear that all exterior shots with people in them are quite to scale. Most appear to be right, but there is one shot in OiS, in which River drifts back from Early's ship, where it really looks like she and Mal are too large with respect to Serenity.

Ah HA! Actually, on looking at it, this may be the shot that makes it all work!

Yes, I think Serenity may be smaller than we think she is.

Looking at Mal and River in that shot, they look like they're about the right size for the mess room. And I can also see that the mess doesn't cover as much of the lower deck as I thought.

Looking from the mess to the cockpit, you can see the the stairs to the cockpit are about one deck higher than the mess. This also fits with the outside shot in OiS. The cockpit extends aft a considerable piece from the windows.

I'm going to start compiling some comparisons over the next week. But now I have hope. (Although now the shuttles are looking awfully itty bitty... We'll burn that bridge later...)

Deck plans! I want deck plans! I'm a reformed Trekie for crying out loud! (Reformed Trekkie is kinda like saying Former Marine.)

Ok, I admit it. One of the biggest tragedies of Firefly being cancelled is that I'll never get my toy of Serenity to play with!

Bill
"We all know I'm the funny one."
"You ain't all that funny."

KAYTHRYN

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:16 AM

This kind of figuring sounds like it might include some form of math. Leave me out. Why can't we just let some things be kind of flexible- just enjoy the moment. My guess is that not all views of Serenity match up. In some scenes she might appear bigger (The train job shot where Serenity was hovering near the edge of the cliff to pick up Jayne, Zoë, and Mal) and smaller in others (In Objects in Space where River floats down into Mal’s open arms).

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JAYNE: What? She killed 'em with mathematics.
What else could it have been?

SLOWSMURF

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:25 AM

Well, its pretty easy to figure out most of the length. Just mentally put the 5 topfloor sets(which might all be one big set, though I dont' think we ever see ALL 5 parts together, just 3-4 each way)

Those are relatively easy to get the scale.(not that I know, but if you are good at this ;))

TALLGUY

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SlowSmurf:
Well, its pretty easy to figure out most of the length. Just mentally put the 5 topfloor sets(which might all be one big set, though I dont' think we ever see ALL 5 parts together, just 3-4 each way)

My understanding is that they built all the lower decks as one set, and all the upper decks as another. That way you can go play in them with all kinds of shiny camera moves. (Note the use of present tense. I'm an optimist, I am!)

Now if someone could lay hands on those blueprints...

Bill
"We all know I'm the funny one."
"You ain't all that funny."

RIVERSIDE

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:02 PM

Hey! I just built a simhouse of Serenity. Actually, I built two, had to erase the first one due to game problems. The second one is bigger, so I did a better version of the serenity dining area, but I think I liked the look of the first one better. And I'm basing it on what little I know of the ship from watching (no math skills or serious extrapolation), also fitting it into the confines of the game (only 2 floors). I like it okay, although I'm sure it could be improved. My major annoyance, of course, is that the Sims only allows 8 sims per house, and Serenity houses 9 humans.

keep flyin' (Deg Deg)

Quote:
Originally posted by Alexandria:
I would definatly be interested in seeing a 3d layout of Serenity. I've been looking all over for one (I want to build a house for my Sims based on Serenity).

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KAYTHRYN

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverside:
My major annoyance, of course, is that the Sims only allows 8 sims per house, and Serenity houses 9 humans.

Pretend River is still in cryo. Maybe Simon was kidnapped again. Perhaps Inara left to become some rich dukes personal companion. Zoë and Wash could be off at some nude beach for a well deserved vacation. Kick one of them out and then it can account of their being only 8 crew members on board.

How were you able to make “Serenity” on Sims anyway???

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

NOOCYTE

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:50 PM

Quote:
Ah HA! Actually, on looking at it, this may be the shot that makes it all work!

Yes, I think Serenity may be smaller than we think she is.

Looking at Mal and River in that shot, they look like they're about the right size for the mess room. And I can also see that the mess doesn't cover as much of the lower deck as I thought.

I just looked again at that shot, and I fear your A-HA may be a mite premature. If they were supposed to be that size in relation to the ship, then one would have to stoop over to get into the mess hall (which one doesn't), and, though you had deferred this topic, I must point out that, per that (LOVELY, BTW)shot, there is no way one could stand upright in the shuttles. Indeed, given that the mess hall windows are above head-high, one's feet would have to be flush with the entrance to the port shuttle if we were to take that shot as accurate. Plus, there would be no room in Serenity's "neck" for the crew quarters (unless they were like those Japanese coffin hotels...which they're not).

Try this: Go to the same shot, and look at Mal. Imagine that his head comes up only to where his waist is in the frame. That, IMHO, is a more realistic size factor. It would work for the architecture of the bridge, it would make the cargo hold more than 1.5-2 storeys tall (which we know it is), and it would resolve the shuttle issue handily.

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Deck plans! I want deck plans! I'm a reformed Trekie for crying out loud! (Reformed Trekkie is kinda like saying Former Marine.)

Ok, I admit it. One of the biggest tragedies of Firefly being cancelled is that I'll never get my toy of Serenity to play with!

Right there with you, TallGuy, on all three scores. I'd heard mumblings about blueprints with the press kit, but have never laid eyes on any scans. I was toying (pardon pun) with the idea of scratch-building a model of Serenity, but lack the skills and workspace. She'd look mighty shiny on my desk, though

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Lemme know what you think upon revisiting that shot; I really do think I'm on target here. Hell, we must allow even the mighty Zoic Studios a small error here and there!

Gotta run to work (oh yeah, THAT).

Keep Flyin'

Department of Redundancy Department

RIVERSIDE

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:46 PM

Actually, I left out Book. My intent is to create him outside the ship and just use a teleporter to have him there all the time. A lot of my stuff has been visitor-enabled, even beds, so he'll probably stick around for quite awhile.
I've been having a great time designing downtown areas for this neighborhood, too. The podunk town, the fancy Core area, and then the middle ground, a little core, a little frontier, w/ a generous dash of asian influence. Not done yet...but if you're interested, I can post them to my website when I'm finished, so you can have a look. Still decorating Serenity, and have started on a downtown bathhouse. :)

Quote:
Originally posted by Riverside:
My major annoyance, of course, is that the Sims only allows 8 sims per house, and Serenity houses 9 humans.

Pretend River is still in cryo. Maybe Simon was kidnapped again. Perhaps Inara left to become some rich dukes personal companion. Zoë and Wash could be off at some nude beach for a well deserved vacation. Kick one of them out and then it can account of their being only 8 crew members on board.

How were you able to make “Serenity” on Sims anyway???

MANIACNUMBERONE

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:52 PM

You have intrigued me. I have started working on a layout. If it works out, I will post a link to it.

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Who's winning?
I don't know, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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TALRIUS

Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:27 PM

Shiny!

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