Objects in Space question
POSTED BY: RiverNot
UPDATED: Thursday, November 17, 2005 06:10
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I just rewatched Objects In Space today (one of my favorite episodes) and there was something in it that has always bothered me.
River is roaming the ship and hearing the crew's thoughts. Jayne says, "I got stupid. The money was too good." He's looking right at her, just like Simon and Inara are when she hears their thoughts (and Kaylee looks at her while Simon's thoughts are heard). Then Shepherd Book says with a snear and a mean, vile voice, "I don't give half a hump if you're inocent or not. So, where does that put you?" He doesn't look at here but looks at the table as if he can't stand the site of her (or am I reading too much into this?). What's with that? I understand why Mal's not looking at her when everyone else is (he hurts and has turned inward), but I don't understand Book at all. It seems so unlike him, or is this something buried in there left over from his previous (possible operative) life that he battles with? I just don't get it.
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Oops! You posted in the wrong forum, dear. You might want to move it to the Firefly Episode forum if you want answers (I believe there already is a thread discussing this there).
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There are in fact several threads that have discussed this since 2003. Yes. Move this to the Firefly episode forum and all shall be revealed to you.
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It's not even certain that Book is thinking about River. Mal and Inara weren't. Maybe he was thinking about himself...
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I actually think that quote from Book suggests that he was not an Operative. The Operative is always calm and he displays no negative feelings towards those he eliminates.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
Oops! You posted in the wrong forum, dear.
"it has some sweet character deaths -- I mean moments!" - Joss Whedon
Woops! I thought I clicked new thread, but I've a head cold, so who really knows what I did.
Thanks for the help.
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Was Book even talking about River. Jayne was there too (Jayne was there too right? Right now I'm in a fog.).
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Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
I actually think that quote from Book suggests that he was not an Operative. The Operative is always calm and he displays no negative feelings towards those he eliminates.
I think that Book was an ex-Operative. He lost faith in the Alliance, left forever, and changed his name...er...gave himself a name...whatever, and became a Shepherd.
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Originally posted by Hydragon:
It's not even certain that Book is thinking about River. Mal and Inara weren't. Maybe he was thinking about himself...
Eureka!
I have been uncomfortable about this bit since I first saw it. Seemed so unlike steady, solid Book, and though I recognized that Mal & Inara weren't talking about River, it didn't occur to me that Book might have been obsessing about something wretched in his past.
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Originally posted by Hydragon:
I think that Book was an ex-Operative. He lost faith in the Alliance, left forever, and changed his name...er...gave himself a name...whatever, and became a Shepherd.
Book said "I don't give half a hump if you're inocent or not. So, where does that put you?" That is not something the Operative from the movie would have said. I would assume that all the operatives would have received the same training and conditioning and they would all behave and think similarly to the Operative from the movie.
"I swallowed a bug." -River Tam
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