The toughest call: best SINGLE Buffy episode in human history....
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, May 20, 2006 00:08
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I mean do you own seasons 6 and 7 on dvd, or *shakes off the horror of it* tape?
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Oh! No, I don't own them. If you want to own all the seasons, then by all means, buy them, but I just don't see many season 6 episodes that I would really want to watch over again, I do, however, own 1 - 3 becuase I find that I'm more inclined to rewatch them.
With the exceptions of such great episodes as The Body, Hush, Checkpoint and the Gift (and other great season four episodes like Restless), The first three seasons were Buffy at it's best. Again, all IMO.
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I agree that 1-3 were when Joss was at his most concentrated during the series.The end of 2 and whole of 3 getting my vote for excellence.
Chrisisall
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Originally posted by batmarlowe:
It's hard to remember that the names of Glory's demons. She rarely uses them. She usually calls them something like "worthless festering pustule".
Why is Buffy a dumbass?
I just did a fast scan through the episode and must have missed the scene with Giles and the Glorydemon. What's going on there?
This is nitpicky but something I always wondered about. I can accept that Tara is partially mind-sucked, but it seems to me that Glory didn't have her fingers in Tara's head any less long than those who ended up completely mindless and strapped down in Sunnydale Hospital.
Like I said--no biggie, just an observation.
1. Quick scan of the guides... Jinx, Dreg, Murk, Slook, Gronx. That's what I've come up with. Jinx and Dreg are called by name quite often.
2. It really doesn't take a genius to figure out that while Willow is playing all meek and mild, she's really planning to go after Glory by herself. She was all hyped up and, then, what... one or two words by Buffy and she was going to just sit back with her tail between her legs? Gah. Buffy used to be a little bit clued in with her friends.
3. While the Glory demons are following the scoobies, Giles is in the Magic Box with Anya and Willow. He finds one of the demons and it's all "I'm not telling you anything, you can't make me". And, cool as anything, Giles asks the girls to get rope, they turn around and there's a high pitched scream... they turn back and the demon is all "Oh, I'll tell you anything you want, just stop it, stop iiiiiiiiit" and Giles is all Ripper calm and cool.
It's nifty. I love Ripper Giles.
4. From what I recall, they wanted to keep Tara in the hospital longer, but by this point the mental ward was so overcrowded that they were at crisis point and had to send a lot of people home, especially those with family who could care for them. Ben was telling Buffy this in... oh... um... 'listening to fear'? (which, you know, sounds really negligent to me, why didn't they transport them to a different hospital?). Tara obviously had a support system and people to care for her.
Chrisisall is not the only one able to fanwank for Joss. Buffy/Angel... you got a nitpick... bring it on.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I agree that 1-3 were when Joss was at his most concentrated during the series.The end of 2 and whole of 3 getting my vote for excellence.
A man after my own heart. Really.
There were some great episodes in the other seasons, but these are the classic ones. Absolutely. Everything just tied in brilliantly, very few loose threads.
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"Your toes are in the sand."
"And your head's up your..."
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Quote:How come Kendra didn't get a recall when Buffy's heart started again, she wasn't 'dead' that long....
Originally posted by Jacqui:
Chrisisall is not the only one able to fanwank for Joss. Buffy/Angel... you got a nitpick... bring it on.
*he pats himself on the back for a hard one*
Fanwank away, friend Chrisisall
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For some reason, reruns of Buffy just yesterday came back to the limited channels I pay for. I watched, of course. This was the Thanksgiving episode when the Chumash indians came back to wreak vengeance, Spike was tied up (begging for brandy and blood), and Angel hid in the wings.
I hadn't watched any Buffy episodes in several years. I was struck with how totally engaging the show was, how intricate, how rich, how full of every emotion from joy to sorrow, the interplay of all the splendid actors, the lack of predictable fillers, the whole enchilada.
NOTHING on first-run TV today even comes close to this wonder of entertainment. Yesterday's experience made me painfully aware of how we so easily sacrifice our standards when nothing better is out there.
I tried to think of any shows that even come close, and found two. Gilmore Girls, for its rapid-fire delivery of clever conversation and intricate cross-plots; and reruns of She Spies (first year), which also had fast and witty interplay wrapped around almost unpredictable action.
Man, do I miss Joss' TV!
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Jesus. You don't hold back, do ye?
Jumping right in with a hard one, aren't you?
I think the main issue here is... they're girls, not items you can launch a factory recall on.
"Here's some awesome power! Go play, little girl and have a nice, EARLY AND BRUTAL death while you're at it... Oh, wait, come here so we can extract it again. Our mistake, we don't really need you."
The whole slayer essence thing is sketchy throughout the series, from day one. It's never fully explained what the process is, how it's gotten and passed on or what not. Without spoiling your for s7, I can't really go in to where it comes from, either.
My theory is this: when Buffy died in 'Prophecy Girl' (and she was out longer than a few seconds, she was lying in that pool for a while before Xander and Angel found her), her heart had stopped, so it was a technical 'death' in the sense that it fulfilled the prophecy regarding her and the Master, so it stands to reason it would be a 'death' enough to fulfil the necessary obligations to call a new slayer.
A slayer's strength isn't just something handed to them on a platter. It's not as if it could be handed to anyone (again, so many s7 elements come into this argument, it pales without it, but what can I do?). There are specific girls out there, Kendra, Buffy and Faith just happen to be some of those girls. The actual 'slayerness' is passed on to them, but it's more of an awakening to powers they already have.
So that, although the 'slayerness' was passed to Kendra, when Buffy is resurrected she retains her 'strengths' as they are, because they're already part of her.
Joss has said, in many interviews, that the true slayer line passed on to Kendra and then Faith, it does not lie with Buffy at all (again, you'll get the full ramifications of this and why it's so important in later seasons).
Does that at least *begin* to answer your question?
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Actually, based on past peformance, I knew that you could do it, and you did. Thanks.
The Council has ordered a recall of all slayers minted 1998-99.....Chrisisall
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