XANDER FEVER

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UPDATED: Monday, December 12, 2005 06:52
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VISITINGMYINTENTIONS

Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:09 AM

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Originally posted by Grounded:
I definitely agree they missed a few opportunities to have Xander's misdeeds come back to haunt him.

But on the altar-leaving issue, I can't quite understand how you can hate Xander for that. Maybe you need to rewatch Hell's Bells...not that I'll be doing that of course. Bloody awful episode...

I just did. That's what spurred me to butt into this thread. The end of season six (well, season six in general) is not very kind to Xander. Starting with Hell's Bells, it's nothing but unpleasantness until he saves the world. He should hang out with Willow more. She brings out the good in him.

Hell's Bells made me angry at Xander, Maybe you need to rewatch Hell's Bells (it's not /that/ bad an episode, just not a very good one). In it we can certainly understand his leaving if false prophecies scared him, but I'm with Anya on the incomprehension to how he could act that way with knowledge of what was real and what wasn't. I don't understand how he could be so cruel and cowardly, choosing right then to back out, kicking Anya in the puppies.

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Early: Where'd she go?

Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's NOT incorporeally possessing a spaceship, don't look at me --

LIMINALOSITY

Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:56 AM

Love Zander. He's completely loyal with his disloyalty and jealousy, and his Zepponess.

Am I understanding that you've only watched up to the first bitty of season 4? Then you have yet to see many eps with Zander at his most awsome.

I don't have so many favorite Zander single lines as whole Zander vignettes and scenes, because he's so good with the physical comedy:

I love Zander as Bad Zander in the season 3 Bad Willow triptych. In particular the shaking of the cross in Doppelgangland, and the bit where he asks Bad Willow how bad he is in her reality. Love the way he says -oh yeah, I'm bad-. And in her reality, he is icy cold.

If you've seen the Buffy v Drac ep, his speech at the end of that ep is something I go to find just for a good laugh once in a while. And the spider eating. I love the originals of the genre, and Zander does a really good twisted Lugosi in this ep.

I cannot remember the title of the episode when...spoil alert...future ep...Zander and Anya are arguing about their relationship while he's driving the icecream truck. That whole scene just cracks me up, with the bug fan magazine on the dashboard. Then the dream sequence in a later ep when he's crawling through something very like that scene is a great flashback.

The Riley speach to Buffy, yeah. The Snoopy Dance. The hospital moment with Wil. The Us speech to Dawn.

Changing things by gettin' all bendy

SMOKE

Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:22 AM

Spike is the best.

Smoke em if you got em.

GROUNDED

Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
In it we can certainly understand his leaving if false prophecies scared him, but I'm with Anya on the incomprehension to how he could act that way with knowledge of what was real and what wasn't. I don't understand how he could be so cruel and cowardly, choosing right then to back out, kicking Anya in the puppies.

Because, even if it isn't a certainty, he's seen a possible future in which getting married ruins their lives and he doesn't think he can take that risk?

Maybe I'm forgetting certain lines or scenes...but there's no way I'm willingly watching that ep again to check ;)

VISITINGMYINTENTIONS

Friday, October 28, 2005 1:22 AM

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Because, even if it isn't a certainty, he's seen a possible future in which getting married ruins their lives and he doesn't think he can take that risk?

Maybe I'm forgetting certain lines or scenes...but there's no way I'm willingly watching that ep again to check ;)

Coward.

Everyone takes that risk in getting married. ...Amazing how so many people manage not to leave their spouse-to-be at the altar! And that's a risk Xander knew about since he first considered marriage. If he was going to back out, the day of the wedding is better than the day after the wedding, but not by much. It's cold and cowardly.

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Early: Where'd she go?

Simon: I can't keep track of her when she's NOT incorporeally possessing a spaceship, don't look at me --

GROUNDED

Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:32 PM

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Originally posted by VisitingMyIntentions:
Coward.

Everyone takes that risk in getting married. ...Amazing how so many people manage not to leave their spouse-to-be at the altar! And that's a risk Xander knew about since he first considered marriage. If he was going to back out, the day of the wedding is better than the day after the wedding, but not by much. It's cold and cowardly.

It would be a lot more cowardly to simply go through with the wedding not to upset people.

BATMARLOWE

Monday, October 31, 2005 7:59 AM

Yeah, I hate it too. It's way down my list of BUFFY episodes. About the only things that work are the humorous things in the beginning about the bridesmaid's gowns, Anya's vows, and the moments Xander has with Willow and Buffy before the episode plummets into infuriating bullshit.

But that's just my opinion.

GROUNDED

Monday, October 31, 2005 10:45 AM

*high fives Batmarlowe*

LUCKYSHADOW

Monday, October 31, 2005 5:27 PM

I like the way Dawn reacts to Spike's date at the wedding. She gives her this little 'thumbs up' that is the funniest thing she ever does.

Then tells Buffy:"He's like totally macking with her in the middle of the room. I saw him shove his tongue--"

I also liked seeing SMG juggle oranges. Very talented girl.

HAIDON

Monday, October 31, 2005 5:41 PM

/sheepishly posts on-topic.

My favorite Xander line:

(After Willow tells him she won't go to the dance with him.)

"That's ok, I didn't want to go. I'll just go home, lie down, and listen to country music... The music of pain."

now back to your "Hells Bells" bashing; not that it isn't warranted /nod.

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