The Marvels Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 00:56
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In a year where there's only been one single Superhero flick out of five that even made any money, you know the sequel to Captain Marvel is going to fail hard.
We've already got a great laugh out of Vanity Fair trolling its readership and the Twitterati by telling them The Marvels cost $130 Million to make and was "the cheapest Marvel Movie yet".
I told everyone on Twitter that posted this nonsense that it was a total lie, and Reality did not disappoint.
Bounding Into Comics: After Vanity Fair Claimed ‘The Marvels’ Clocked In With A $130 Million Budget, Forbes Now Shares The Movie’s Budget Is An Enormous $274 Million
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/09/20/after-vanity-fair-claimed-th
e-marvels-clocked-in-with-a-130-million-budget-forbes-now-shares-the-movies-budget-is-an-enormous-274-million/
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Vanity Fair originally reported that the film’s production budget clocked in at $130 million in their most recent expose about the film’s director, Nia DaCosta. However, Vanity Fair has since updated their article and removed any mentioned of the movie’s production budget.
Nevertheless, an archive exists showing that it indeed reported, “DaCosta is still is also still grappling with the breakthroughs she’s made, including the fact that, at $130 million, The Marvels is the highest-budgeted film ever helmed by a Black woman.”
Wowie!
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This latest report from Forbes states, “The blockbuster budget is disclosed in company filings released yesterday by the Disney subsidiary which made the movie. They show that over the two-year period from the incorporation of the company to September 30, 2022, it spent $274.8 million (£221.8 million) and banked a $55 million (£44.4 million) subsidy from the government of the United Kingdom where the movie was made. This brought its net spending down to $219.8 million.”
OPPS!
There ain't no way in hell this movie is making $550 Million in 2023.
Congrats Disney and Black Lady. You now have on your hands the most expensive flop ever directed by a black woman. I hope you're happy.
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UPDATE: ‘The Marvels’ Actually Turns Out To Be the Most Expensive Movie of the Multiverse Saga
https://www.comicbasics.com/the-marvels-is-reportedly-among-the-lowest
-budgeted-mcu-movies-so-far/
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Disney doesn't have the 'Disney Dollas' to throw around anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if they sell ABC sooner rather than later for some cash. They've mishandled Marvel and Lucasfilm so bad it'll take years to fix...unless they end up selling them too.
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I already put that update in the original post. I thought maybe you were posting an article that proved it was more than $274 Million.
There are some who speculate and give good reasons and evidence to believe that The Marvels actually cost over $300 Million to make and that continued reshoots haven't been calculated in the updated total that Forbes recently put out there.
I didn't mention that part in the OP because I don't particularly care to deal in rumors when I'm making my predictions, but it is possible that The Marvels cost quite a bit more than what they finally came out and admitted already.
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Originally posted by whozit:
Disney doesn't have the 'Disney Dollas' to throw around anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if they sell ABC sooner rather than later for some cash. They've mishandled Marvel and Lucasfilm so bad it'll take years to fix...unless they end up selling them too.
Yeah...
I've heard that the can't sell Lucasfilm to anyone. Not only have they damaged the brand so bad that nobody would ever pay anything close to what they bought it for, but unless they wanted to knock down all their Lucasfilm attractions at their themeparks they'd end up having to pay licensing rights in order to keep using them.
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The Marvels Is Going To Be The Shortest MCU Movie Ever
https://www.small-screen.co.uk/the-marvels-shortest-mcu-movie-ever/
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What that article fails to mention is that the runtime is 105 minutes.
So to the few people who go to the theaters and pay to see this drek, remember that it cost Disney/marvel $2,609,523.81 per minute to make at $274 Million / 105 minutes.
Then compare that with Avengers: End Game which cost "only" $1,956,043.96 per minute to create at $356 Million / 182 minutes, and wonder where the hell all the money was spent on The Marvels.
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The Marvels Must Make $440 Million to Break Even
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/marvels-must-440-million-break-1200514
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The Marvels Must Make $440 Million to Break Even
That's only considering the 2.0x RoT, and at this point, especially for ultra-budget movies, we've pretty much established that we're on the 2.5x RoT in 2023 now. The Marvel's likely needs more like $550 Million to break even. And since companies (theoretically) are in the business of making money, it would need at least $700 Million to even justify the time and money put into it in the first place.
Plus, that $220 Million figure after British subsidies is very likely not the full picture. That's just what they had to file with the UK when applying for that $55 Million subsidy. Word is there were pretty extensive reshoots and other post-production expenses that went into the movie. I imagine the editing team had a hell of a time chopping the movie down to only 1 hour and 45 minutes while maintaining any sense of structure and story.
Why do I give this possibility creedence?
This is why:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/10/02/disney-sinks-300-
million-into-over-budget-little-mermaid-movie/
FORBES (October 2nd): Disney Sinks $300 Million Into ‘Over Budget’ ‘Little Mermaid’ Movie
It just came out that The Little Mermaid cost $300 Million to make. Not the already ludicris $250 Million that was reported when the movie first came out. Now that movie is loser on both the 2.0x RoT and the 2.5x RoT.
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The Marvels Predicted to Flop
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/marvels-predicted-flop-160000868.html?
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According to forecasts by Box Office Pro, the domestic opening of Marvel’s next big blockbuster will generate between $50 million and $75 million. That’s less than half of what Captain Marvel managed in 2019.
Reports also say presales are “alarmingly low,” down 69% behind Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, and 72% behind Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. All in all, it’s not looking good ahead of The Marvels’ release date on November 10, especially given its reported $270+ million gross budget.
You don't say...
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Despite damning early signs, however, it’s unlikely to cause the Marvel machine too much damage. It can recoup costs through merchandising and streaming sales. And, of course, if the film is any good, word of mouth will build. So don’t count it out just yet.
False. Marvel merchandise rots on shelves of department stores before it rots on shelves of Ollie's and Dollar General before it rots in a landfill along with Star Wars merch.
And as long as Disney+ exists and continues to lose hundreds of millions of dollars every quarter instead of licensing out the rights to its movies to other streaming services like Netflix, The Marvels will make ZERO dollars from streaming.
Brie Larson’s ‘The Marvels’ Predicted To Have One Of If Not The Worst Box Office Grosses For The Marvel Cinematic Universe Ever
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/10/13/brie-larsons-the-marvels-pre
dicted-to-have-one-of-if-not-the-worst-box-office-grosses-for-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-ever/
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Box Office Pro shared their projects for The Marvels claiming the film will only gross between $50 million and $75 million in its domestic opening weekend.
They also predict it will bring in between $121 million and $189 million at the domestic box office.
If those predictions remain accurate, there's a very good chance this movie does only between $300 and $400 Million worldwide and will be the biggest Disney flop of the year behind Indy 5.
With ScreenRant's recent article about The Creator stating that a film needs 2.5x the budget to break even (joining Deadline and Variety also making that claim this year), The Marvels is going to need $685 Million to break even. And that's only if we don't find out later how much more they spent on the extensive reshoots and other problems like we already did with The Little Mermaid.
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