I'm so impressed by the Stoneman Douglas High School students
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They have been so impressive - amazing candor and intelligent reactions from these young people. Yes, of course, there will some immaturity, but overall, just amazing.
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God bless them:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/19/us/florida-school-shooting/index.html
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Again - embarrassing the "adults":
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/18/politics/donald-trump-florida-shooting-
twitter/index.html
Trump tweet angers survivors of Parkland shooting
Washington (CNN)Students who survived the Parkland, Florida, shooting laid into President Donald Trump after he linked the FBI's failure to follow up on a report about the school shooter and the resources expended on the Russia investigation.
On Saturday, Trump tweeted, "Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!"
The President's tweet caused considerable outrage online, including among apparent survivors of the shooting:
"17 of my classmates are gone. That's 17 futures, 17 children, and 17 friends stolen. But you're right, it always has to be about you. How silly of me to forget. #neveragain"
"17 innocent people were brutally murdered at my school, a place where they should have felt safe. Their lives were gone in an instant. You are the President of the United States and you have the audacity to put this on Russia as an excuse. I guess I should expect that from you."
"...my friends were brutally murdered and you have the nerve to make this about Russia. I can not believe this"
"Oh my god. 17 OF MY CLASSMATES AND FRIENDS ARE GONE AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO MAKE THIS ABOUT RUSSIA???!! HAVE A DAMN HEART. You can keep all of your fake and meaningless 'thoughts and prayers'."
Several of the student's responses went viral, getting thousands of retweets. As of this writing, one of them had been retweeted more times than the President's original message.
Many students who survived the Parkland shooting have been vocal about what they experienced, and about the action they want to see from those in power.
Parkland students say, 'We are going to be the last mass shooting'
Alex Wind, a survivor, told CNN's Fredricka Whitfield that he did not plan to attend a listening session Trump has scheduled on Wednesday with high school students and teachers, and that the President needed to reach out to the students.
"If Donald Trump wants to listen to us, he should have taken the first invitation," Wind said. "We are not going to come to him. He is going to need to come to us."
Emma Gonzalez, speaking in the same interview, said she suspected his scheduled listening session could be a sign Trump does not want to face outraged victims of the shooting.
"The fact that he has organized this just proves that he's scared of us and that he doesn't want to have to face us," Gonzalez said.
Trump on Friday visited a Florida hospital where many of the victims were treated, as well as the sheriff's office.
David Hogg, one of the students, spoke on NBC's "Meet the Press" and issued an angry and passionate call for Trump to take action on the issue.
"You're the President," Hogg said. "You're supposed to bring this nation together, not divide us. How dare you? Children are dying, and their blood is on your hands because of that. Please take action. Stop going on vacation in Mar-a-Lago. Take action. Work with Congress. Your party controls both the House and Senate. Take action, get some bills passed, and for God's sake, let's save some lives."
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I was more impressed with my generation, yanno... before Columbine. Before metal detectors at schools. Back in the days when my parents never had to have that nagging feeling in the back of their minds that every time they sent me and my brothers to school that it might be the last time they saw us.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Me too, I'm impressed. It looked a lot like I ain't gonna take it any more. I want to see what the marches look like in March. I hope they are massive and nation wide.
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Quote:Are you saying that these 17-year-olds have successfully regurgitated verbatim the pablum their Libtard Public School Union teachers/indoctrinators have shovelled into their holes, and that this narrative conforms to your worldview?
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Again - embarrassing the "adults":
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/18/politics/donald-trump-florida-shooting-
twitter/index.html
Trump tweet angers survivors of Parkland shooting
Washington (CNN)Students who survived the Parkland, Florida, shooting laid into President Donald Trump after he linked the FBI's failure to follow up on a report about the school shooter and the resources expended on the Russia investigation.
On Saturday, Trump tweeted, "Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!"
The President's tweet caused considerable outrage online, including among apparent survivors of the shooting:
"17 of my classmates are gone. That's 17 futures, 17 children, and 17 friends stolen. But you're right, it always has to be about you. How silly of me to forget. #neveragain"
"17 innocent people were brutally murdered at my school, a place where they should have felt safe. Their lives were gone in an instant. You are the President of the United States and you have the audacity to put this on Russia as an excuse. I guess I should expect that from you."
"...my friends were brutally murdered and you have the nerve to make this about Russia. I can not believe this"
"Oh my god. 17 OF MY CLASSMATES AND FRIENDS ARE GONE AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO MAKE THIS ABOUT RUSSIA???!! HAVE A DAMN HEART. You can keep all of your fake and meaningless 'thoughts and prayers'."
Several of the student's responses went viral, getting thousands of retweets. As of this writing, one of them had been retweeted more times than the President's original message.
Many students who survived the Parkland shooting have been vocal about what they experienced, and about the action they want to see from those in power.
Parkland students say, 'We are going to be the last mass shooting'
Alex Wind, a survivor, told CNN's Fredricka Whitfield that he did not plan to attend a listening session Trump has scheduled on Wednesday with high school students and teachers, and that the President needed to reach out to the students.
"If Donald Trump wants to listen to us, he should have taken the first invitation," Wind said. "We are not going to come to him. He is going to need to come to us."
Emma Gonzalez, speaking in the same interview, said she suspected his scheduled listening session could be a sign Trump does not want to face outraged victims of the shooting.
"The fact that he has organized this just proves that he's scared of us and that he doesn't want to have to face us," Gonzalez said.
Trump on Friday visited a Florida hospital where many of the victims were treated, as well as the sheriff's office.
David Hogg, one of the students, spoke on NBC's "Meet the Press" and issued an angry and passionate call for Trump to take action on the issue.
"You're the President," Hogg said. "You're supposed to bring this nation together, not divide us. How dare you? Children are dying, and their blood is on your hands because of that. Please take action. Stop going on vacation in Mar-a-Lago. Take action. Work with Congress. Your party controls both the House and Senate. Take action, get some bills passed, and for God's sake, let's save some lives."
Or are you saying that your level of critical thinking capability is so stunted that it matches those who have not graduated High School?
Either way, I am shocked by such revelation.
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Are you saying that these 17-year-olds have successfully regurgitated verbatim the pablum their Libtard Public School Union teachers/indoctrinators have shovelled into their holes, and that this narrative conforms to your worldview?
Or are you saying that your level of critical thinking capability is so stunted that it matches those who have not graduated High School?
Either way, I am shocked by such revelation. Just shocked, I say.
Perhaps you feel these globetrotting teens have such great experience in global affairs that their worldview far outdistances yours. Again, no surprise that teens are more mature than you.
This is low even for you Jewels. Yes, we can all learn something from these young adults.
SGG
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Quote:I consider truth and fact to be a High Standard to shoot for, not a low.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:This is low even for you Jewels. Yes, we can all learn something from these young adults.
Are you saying that these 17-year-olds have successfully regurgitated verbatim the pablum their Libtard Public School Union teachers/indoctrinators have shovelled into their holes, and that this narrative conforms to your worldview?
Or are you saying that your level of critical thinking capability is so stunted that it matches those who have not graduated High School?
Either way, I am shocked by such revelation. Just shocked, I say.
Perhaps you feel these globetrotting teens have such great experience in global affairs that their worldview far outdistances yours. Again, no surprise that teens are more mature than you.
SGG
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Yes, the canned, rehearsed and scripted talking points have been all over social media.
PRAISE THE KIDS !!
What ever.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yes, the canned, rehearsed and scripted talking points have been all over social media.
PRAISE THE KIDS !!
What ever.
Yep it is. Only problem is it's more fake news. You rappy, you are spreading. Just as the Yale and Oxford studies said guys like you did during the election. This shits too funny.
Wait for it rappy, I or some else will post the video proving this.
Dummy, Troll...
T
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Found it rappy. As soon as it's ready it will post here. I'm telling ya, this is why you stopped posting in real world. You made yourself look stupid because you're so biased. Facts and you just don't go good together.
Oil and water rappy. Facts and common sense with you are like oil and water. I saw this video this morning. I new this would happen with you. I was waiting. Thanks for not disappointing. Dummy....
Their trolling these children online. Oh wait, rappy, you're trolling these children online. I warned you about trusting guys who make videos in their basements. Will you ever learn? I think not.
T
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Useful idiots like you are why I don't bother w/ this site, for a dead t.v. series that has no hope of ever being revived.
msnbc ? Yeah the same guys who SERIOUSLY mapped out a pre-election forecast that had Hillary winning - 100 %
Columbine was committed , like this last shooting, in a " gun free " zone, during the middle of the " assault gun " ban, while a Democrat was in office. No one blamed Clinton for that one.
Obama which allowed for the * legalization of ' bump stock ' devices, which to date have been used in exactly ONE mass shooting. Obama doesn't get any blame for that , does he ? Meanwhile, Trump is promoting banning bump stock ( probably won't pass legal standing ) and wow !! He's still to blame for this psycho who everyone KNEW was violent and had been expelled for fear of everyone's life, but no one did a damn thing about.
Not even the FBI , who couldn't figure out the user's ID on YouTube, even though his account name WAS HIS ACTUAL NAME !
You, as are these kids " movement " are 100% fake.
* http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/oct/06/nationa
l-rifle-association/nra-claim-obama-approved-bump-stocks/
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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What the fuck does that have to do with you posting fake news and trolling children. Nothing...
Here are some facts for you dummy. The NRA brought 10 million dollars in TV adds supporting Trump.
They spent 20 million dollars on adds against Hillary.
Wait for it dummy. The NRA is being investigated for wittingly or unwittingly funneling money from Russia into the election.
T
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NRA spent good money in defeating Hillary.
Every American should be glad for it too !
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Quote:Wait a sec....Bump Stocks.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Useful idiots like you are why I don't bother w/ this site, for a dead t.v. series that has no hope of ever being revived.
msnbc ? Yeah the same guys who SERIOUSLY mapped out a pre-election forecast that had Hillary winning - 100 %
Columbine was committed , like this last shooting, in a " gun free " zone, during the middle of the " assault gun " ban, while a Democrat was in office. No one blamed Clinton for that one.
Obama which allowed for the * legalization of ' bump stock ' devices, which to date have been used in exactly ONE mass shooting. Obama doesn't get any blame for that , does he ? Meanwhile, Trump is promoting banning bump stock ( probably won't pass legal standing ) and wow !! He's still to blame for this psycho who everyone KNEW was violent and had been expelled for fear of everyone's life, but no one did a damn thing about.
Not even the FBI , who couldn't figure out the user's ID on YouTube, even though his account name WAS HIS ACTUAL NAME !
You, as are these kids " movement " are 100% fake.
* http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/oct/06/nationa
l-rifle-association/nra-claim-obama-approved-bump-stocks/
I wonder how many Black Lives in Chicago have been ended by Bump Stocks? None?
This must mean it's RACIST!! Banning bump stocks means you don't care about Black Lives.
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Quote:The brainwashing is strong with these kids.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yes, the canned, rehearsed and scripted talking points have been all over social media.
PRAISE THE KIDS !!
What ever.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:The brainwashing is strong with these kids.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yes, the canned, rehearsed and scripted talking points have been all over social media.
PRAISE THE KIDS !!
What ever.
Look, I know you and rappy don't get it because you're sick. Still, I'll say it again. These children are afraid to go to school, upset about their friends being killed, and you guys are trolling them.
It doesn't take rocket science to figure out you're sick
T
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Because not every life in Chicago is a school age child, #NotOneMore doesn't really fit the anti-gun narrative. Oh, and the fact that Obama is from Chicago, and his former chief of staff as been a multi term mayor, all while this genocide is going on, some how escapes the social media warriors.
Wonder why.
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No one is trolling the survivors of a school shooting. We just honestly find it disgusting that you and others are praising the manipulation and exploitation going on , simply to promote a political agenda. NOTHING MORE.
And you know it.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
No one is trolling the survivors of a school shooting. We just honestly find it disgusting that you and others are praising the manipulation and exploitation going on , simply to promote a political agenda. NOTHING MORE.
And you know it.
You've posted lies about them. That's trolling and that's sick.
T
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Found it rappy. As soon as it's ready it will post here. I'm telling ya, this is why you stopped posting in real world. You made yourself look stupid because you're so biased. Facts and you just don't go good together.
Oil and water rappy. Facts and common sense with you are like oil and water. I saw this video this morning. I new this would happen with you. I was waiting. Thanks for not disappointing. Dummy....
Their trolling these children online. Oh wait, rappy, you're trolling these children online. I warned you about trusting guys who make videos in their basements. Will you ever learn? I think not.
T
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
You've posted lies about them. That's trolling and that's sick.
You're lying, you fucking troll. I've posted no lies about ANY of them.
Logical conclusion of all this protesting - confiscation and outlawing of all guns, leaving guns in the hands of only ... 1. criminals and 2. the police. And how many Leftists are going to HONESTLY sit there and tell us , with a straight face, they totally trust the police ??
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And how many Leftists are going to HONESTLY sit there and tell us , with a straight face, they totally trust the police ??
That, my friends, is what we call SJW checkmate.
Any Black Lives Matter or antifa activists still here?
What say you, reaverfan?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I am not certain that they actually do know. So so much goes way over their heads.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
No one is trolling the survivors of a school shooting. We just honestly find it disgusting that you and others are praising the manipulation and exploitation going on , simply to promote a political agenda. NOTHING MORE.
And you know it.
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Quote:What they are trying to say, with full logic, is that they want more Criminals and outlaws to have guns, and no Good Guys to interfere. Plus schools where nobody will be allowed to have defensive weapons to interfere with psychotropic drugged Spree Killers.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:You're lying, you fucking troll. I've posted no lies about ANY of them.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
You've posted lies about them. That's trolling and that's sick.
Logical conclusion of all this protesting - confiscation and outlawing of all guns, leaving guns in the hands of only ... 1. criminals and 2. the police. And how many Leftists are going to HONESTLY sit there and tell us , with a straight face, they totally trust the police ??
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Truth and fact.....now hear this...........these young people have shown that they are not just going to lay down and take the bullshit that is the NRA, the Republican Congress, the president and any and all "negative Nellies."
They have shown that truth and fact are alive and well and living in Parkland Florida, by speaking their minds and making an impact. And yes, they are better than me when I was their age. I was busy playing sports, going out with my friends, talking back to my teachers, driving my mom crazy, etc. Typical teenage stuff.
I didn't have a brain until I got to college. Then I began to protest and speak my mind. Now, for all you geniuses....I don't speak for you, I speak for myself and for those that have the capacity to understand how truth works. You can wish it, but it doesn't make it so. These kids have substance, brains and, above all, courage.
Nothing you say can make that go away. Those and others who have experienced what they've experienced will soon be of voting age. So, we shall see....won't we. 2020 is not far off. And that's the reality and truth of the situation.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I consider truth and fact to be a High Standard to shoot for, not a low.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:This is low even for you Jewels. Yes, we can all learn something from these young adults.
Are you saying that these 17-year-olds have successfully regurgitated verbatim the pablum their Libtard Public School Union teachers/indoctrinators have shovelled into their holes, and that this narrative conforms to your worldview?
Or are you saying that your level of critical thinking capability is so stunted that it matches those who have not graduated High School?
Either way, I am shocked by such revelation. Just shocked, I say.
Perhaps you feel these globetrotting teens have such great experience in global affairs that their worldview far outdistances yours. Again, no surprise that teens are more mature than you.
SGG
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They aren't making any impact. Nobody will even remember this happened by the end of March.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Trump Jr. ripped for 'liking' conspiracy theories on Parkland survivors
Comedians on the late-night TV circuit got serious on Wednesday as they slammed Donald Trump Jr. for reportedly boosting conspiracy theories about last week's school shooting in Florida, including one that called a survivor an agent of “the deep state media.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/trump-jr-ripped-liking-conspiracy-
theories-parkland-survivors/story?id=53265618
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I'm impressed too. Students nowadays are very media-savvy and articulate; much more so than when I was young. But what I find depressing is that we NEED media-savvy, assertive, near-adults to make their case. What about the little kids at Sandy Hook? All THEY could do was suffer in silence. Is that all who we pay attention to? The loudest voices? Are the smallest, quietest victims always doomed to suffer in silence in our noisy-media-focused society?
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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From U.S. News & World Report - Sept. 29, 2016
Race and Homicide in America, by the Numbers
New federal statistics have some interesting things to say about interracial killings and ‘black-on-black’ homicides.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-am
erica-by-the-numbers
White and Black Victims
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Black people have consistently accounted for close to half the country's homicide victims, making up more than 50 percent of the broader pool of those killed overall every year since 2010. The number of black victims increased 15 percent in 2015 over 2014.
Of the 13,455 cases from last year in which the FBI listed a victim's racial information, 7,039 victims – or 52.3 percent – were black. That compares with 5,854 cases – or 43.5 percent – in which the victim was white, an increase of about 8 percent from last year.
It's a disparity that becomes more pronounced in the context of population, as 2015 Census estimates suggest that whites account for 77.1 percent of the overall U.S. population of roughly 321 million, while blacks comprise 13.3 percent.
Why don't we just start the Civil War and be done with it? It's quite obvious what Trump is looking to do, so why don't we have one last epic battle. It will not be a long fight, but it could settle things once and for all. It all started the day the first European settlers landed on these shores, as they slowly claimed the land as their own.
Well, according to Kenneth C. Davis, a historian with the Smithsonian, the first settlers were French...
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the French settlement of Fort Caroline, France’s first foothold in the Americas, located near present-day Jacksonville, on what the French called the River of May...They were France’s first colonists in the New World—and the true first “Pilgrims” in America.(in 1565)
Well, that doesn't mean shit today, especially when you have Trump claiming the USA for all the white folk from Europe as the "rightful" owners. MAGA
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Because not every life in Chicago is a school age child, #NotOneMore doesn't really fit the anti-gun narrative. Oh, and the fact that Obama is from Chicago, and his former chief of staff as been a multi term mayor, all while this genocide is going on, some how escapes the social media warriors.
Wonder why.
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It's funny, but these are educated white kids who are leading the way and soon will have the nation's high schoolers walking about. Good for them, I hope they embarrass the fuck out of these sleazy-ass politicians like Rubio, and Rick Scott.
Funny #2: They got Trump a little nervous as they were invited to the White House for a "listening" sessions (ha, I misspelled session like Drump). Of course, we all know the truth, he's just trying to do the old bait and switch. He doesn't give a fuck about these kids. He just wants to buy some time to keep them at bay while he thinks of something to fuck them over. That's the reality of it all.
Fucking scumbag, he will go to LaPeePee and suck his dick until he tells him to stop. But 2020 is soon coming and these kids will be of voting age. Trump and LaPeePee will overplay their hand, and then they will get fucked in the ass real good. Out they go....bye, bye. I know, no one votes for the NRA. Maybe someone will shoot LaPeePee with an AR-15, God willing, and be rid of his tired old wrinkled ass. That would be poetic justice.
Some kid, an 18-year-old, will buy an AR-15, with an expired license, buy ammo, load up and go to an NRA rally where he goes wild and shoots up the place hitting LaPeePee right between the eyes. I will do a dance on the rooftop and bust off a few rounds in his honor, a whooping and a yelling.....YEEEEEEHAAAAAAA!
SGG
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They aren't making any impact. Nobody will even remember this happened by the end of March.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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The parents of the kids from Sandy Hook spoke for their children, as it should be. The impressive kids from Parkland are speaking for them now. Yes, they are media savvy, and well-spoken and they shouldn't have to travel hundreds of miles to Tallahassee and D.C. to be heard. I'm impressed that they have taken action, when they should be grieving. That takes intestinal fortitude, courage and a whole lot of chutzpah. Bravo young people of Parkland. Go get 'em!
It impresses me because, they were subjected to a horrific and despicable act of violence by someone who never should have been allowed to purchase a killing machine, the AR-15. It is a weapon of war.....NOT A GUN! That's like saying that everyone has the right to own a 50-caliber machine gun, because well, the 2d Amendment. But, who's to say that this is a sign of the media-savvy times. It's all a part of instant gratification with social media and television at every turn. But that's like saying that the woman got pregnant because she had sex. There is a little thing called a condom. And there's the breakdown of the family. so many things, so little time. There is a solution, but the people who's job it is to serve the public, the elected officials, are afraid to lose their places of privilege.
Why are we the only advanced civilized culture in the world with this problem?
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Are the smallest, quietest victims always doomed to suffer in silence in our noisy-media-focused society?
The answer is Yes. We now have Dodge City-itis!
With the adults in charge, that will continue to happen. The Florida state legislature refused to meet with these brilliant young people. Cowards.
By the way, great idea by Trump and the NRA. Arm the teachers! Sure, that will solve the problem. "Trained armed guards," says LaPiere. Wait, didn't we have that already?
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In 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 15 people and wounded 23 more at Columbine High School. The destruction occurred despite the fact that there was an armed security officer at the school and another one nearby - exactly what LaPeePee argued (sic) as the answer to stopping a bad guy with a gun.
By Amanda Terkel, HuffPost, updated: 12/23/2012
They may be young, but they are nobody's fool. They may be a bit naïve, but FUCK they have cojones. I like that they are taking it to the cowardly politicos and putting their feet to the fire. The youth of the country, there's hope yet. Give them HELL Parkland Eagles!
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm impressed too. Students nowadays are very media-savvy and articulate; much more so than when I was young. But what I find depressing is that we NEED media-savvy, assertive, near-adults to make their case. What about the little kids at Sandy Hook? All THEY could do was suffer in silence. Is that all who we pay attention to? The loudest voices? Are the smallest, quietest victims always doomed to suffer in silence in our noisy-media-focused society?
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
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What about those 4 soldiers that were killed in Niger?
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Because not every life in Chicago is a school age child, #NotOneMore doesn't really fit the anti-gun narrative. Oh, and the fact that Obama is from Chicago, and his former chief of staff as been a multi term mayor, all while this genocide is going on, some how escapes the social media warriors.
Wonder why.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Trump Jr. ripped for 'liking' conspiracy theories on Parkland survivors
Comedians on the late-night TV circuit got serious on Wednesday as they slammed Donald Trump Jr. for reportedly boosting conspiracy theories about last week's school shooting in Florida, including one that called a survivor an agent of “the deep state media.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/trump-jr-ripped-liking-conspiracy-
theories-parkland-survivors/story?id=53265618
This video says it so well.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Some kid, an 18-year-old, will buy an AR-15, with an expired license, buy ammo, load up and go to an NRA rally where he goes wild and shoots up the place hitting LaPeePee right between the eyes. I will do a dance on the rooftop and bust off a few rounds in his honor, a whooping and a yelling.....YEEEEEEHAAAAAAA!
Dude. I relize you're frustrated and these times are really damn tense for a lot of us. But I like you, man. I know that this is a pretty obscure fansite of a long dead TV show and probably nobody is paying any attention here, but I hope you're not posting stuff like this on other forms of social media that are a lot more high profile and aren't as "anonymous" as fff.net is.
People are getting into trouble for saying a lot less than that these days, and the wrong person could see that and take blow it up on you to the point that it becomes a story over what you just thought was innocently blowing off a little steam. (I for one would not want something like this that I typed being re-tweeted by Tomi Lahren or Mark Dice, for instance).
All I'm suggesting is that there's other ways to say what you need to say without possibly getting yourself into trouble.
And about the kids... It's a shitty thing that happened to them. Something like that makes one grow up a lot quicker than they should ever have to. I know I was never the same after I was brutally beat down and stabbed by 4 guys several years out of high school.
All I'm saying is that nothing has changed with guns from the mid-90's when this never happened and now when it happens what seems like at least once a year. What has changed, and how do we fix it?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
No one is trolling the survivors of a school shooting. We just honestly find it disgusting that you and others are praising the manipulation and exploitation going on , simply to promote a political agenda. NOTHING MORE.
And you know it.
T
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Just another uncaring corrupt FBI agent sig. You'll enjoy this.
T
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This kid seems sound , stable and completely unradicalized ( from nearly 1 year ago , btw ) 
I bet he wore a pink pussy hat and marched w/ all his sisters.
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From " the system worked ! " files...
Surveillance footage from the Florida high school where 17 people were fatally shot and more than a dozen others wounded was not shown live, as responding officers initially thought.
According to Coral Springs Police Chief Tony Pustizzi, the footage had been rewound, and police were watching it on a 20-minute delay, leading them to believe the gunman, Nikolas Cruz, was still in the building when he was long gone.
http://ktla.com/2018/02/22/26-minute-delay-in-security-footage-misled-
officers-responding-to-florida-school-shooting/amp/
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Yes, break out the old script and deflect away. Wait.....did you guys blame Obama yet? You guys must be slipping, that's on page one, or is it two? You go to the back of the class there Rappy.
Come on now....Hilary, Obama, Chicago. Write that 100 times on the blackboard until you have it committed to memory. It's in the NRA Right Wing Manifesto. You know, they have a pocket-sized version. You can get it on Uber Alles.com
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Because not every life in Chicago is a school age child, #NotOneMore doesn't really fit the anti-gun narrative. Oh, and the fact that Obama is from Chicago, and his former chief of staff as been a multi term mayor, all while this genocide is going on, some how escapes the social media warriors.
Wonder why.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, break out the old script and deflect away. Wait.....did you guys blame Obama yet? You guys must be slipping, that's on page one, or is it two? You go to the back of the class there Rappy.
Come on now....Hilary, Obama, Chicago. Write that 100 times on the blackboard until you have it committed to memory. It's in the NRA Right Wing Manifesto. You know, they have a pocket-sized version. You can get it on Uber Alles.com
SGG
It's not deflection. It's the truth you hate to discuss because it undercuts the agenda you're attempting to push. Those dead in Chicago and everywhere else that handguns are used are every bit as dead as those in Parkland and Sandy Hook. Your goal isn't just to disarm law abiding citizens of the AR 15, but EVERY gun.
Just admit it.
For some reason, you ignore Chicago's far worse gun problem - yet another gun free zone where laws are strict against gun ownership - and instead focus on " the children ".
Mostly white children, I may add. Think none of those in Chicago aren't children ?
#Hypocrites
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
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Quote:Well, now you're just exposing SGG's hatred of black children. Black kids just don't matter as much as white kids to SGG.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:It's not deflection. It's the truth you hate to discuss because it undercuts the agenda you're attempting to push. Those dead in Chicago and everywhere else that handguns are used are every bit as dead as those in Parkland and Sandy Hook. Your goal isn't just to disarm law abiding citizens of the AR 15, but EVERY gun.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, break out the old script and deflect away. Wait.....did you guys blame Obama yet? You guys must be slipping, that's on page one, or is it two? You go to the back of the class there Rappy.
Come on now....Hilary, Obama, Chicago. Write that 100 times on the blackboard until you have it committed to memory. It's in the NRA Right Wing Manifesto. You know, they have a pocket-sized version. You can get it on Uber Alles.com
SGG
Just admit it.
For some reason, you ignore Chicago's far worse gun problem - yet another gun free zone where laws are strict against gun ownership - and instead focus on " the children ".
Mostly white children, I may add. Think none of those in Chicago aren't children ?
#Hypocrites
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Here's one that's not so impressive...Colton Habb
His father put in his two cents worth and tried to change the narrative. He altered an email and then went running to Fox to try and discredit CNN. Funny thing how emails work, both sides have a copy.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/shooting-survivors-father-admits-emai
l-changes-in-cnn-spat/ar-BBJG3Uc?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Oooops!
Boy is the NRA desperate!
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yes, the canned, rehearsed and scripted talking points have been all over social media.
PRAISE THE KIDS !!
What ever.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Boy, you guys really make me laugh. What you want is another fucking puppet to just nod yes to all your conspiracy theories and nutty
stories.
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Well, now you're just exposing SGG's hatred of black children. Black kids just don't matter as much as white kids to SGG.
I know what you're trying to make me say. By the way, I'm for responsible gun ownership. The AR-15 is NOT a gun. It is a war machine with bullets designed to do the most damage to a human being.
Nice try though.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Well, now you're just exposing SGG's hatred of black children. Black kids just don't matter as much as white kids to SGG.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:It's not deflection. It's the truth you hate to discuss because it undercuts the agenda you're attempting to push. Those dead in Chicago and everywhere else that handguns are used are every bit as dead as those in Parkland and Sandy Hook. Your goal isn't just to disarm law abiding citizens of the AR 15, but EVERY gun.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, break out the old script and deflect away. Wait.....did you guys blame Obama yet? You guys must be slipping, that's on page one, or is it two? You go to the back of the class there Rappy.
Come on now....Hilary, Obama, Chicago. Write that 100 times on the blackboard until you have it committed to memory. It's in the NRA Right Wing Manifesto. You know, they have a pocket-sized version. You can get it on Uber Alles.com
SGG
Just admit it.
For some reason, you ignore Chicago's far worse gun problem - yet another gun free zone where laws are strict against gun ownership - and instead focus on " the children ".
Mostly white children, I may add. Think none of those in Chicago aren't children ?
#Hypocrites
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Hey Rappy, you want to sensibly discuss the truth? Okay, I'll bite.
First, whenever you, or any of your group bring up a subject of discussion, especially regarding sensible gun laws, and the topic gets around to these shooting sprees, you always bring up Chicago. I'm curious as to why. Never Columbine, or Paducah or any other of the High School shootings. Always Chicago.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Yes, there are people being shot in Chicago. No doubt. But we are talking about shootings in high schools, like in Parkland.
Stats - According to Gun Violence Archive - from 2014-2018
Total # of Incidents -- 5,439
# of deaths -- 1,827
# of injuries -- 2,917
# of children (0-11) 95
killed or injured
# of Teens (12-17) 241
killed or injured
Mass shooting 32
Officer Involved 29
Officer shot/killed
Officer involved 116
suspect - shot/killed
Homer Invasion 215
Defensive Use 221
Unintentional shooting 183
The above is a breakdown of shootings over a 4 year period across the country. The above does not include the 22,000 annual suicides. GVA compiles data from over 2,500 sources daily. The website breaks it down even further.
Now I don't expect that you will follow up, because you are not interested in the truth. But I thought I would attempt an honest discussion. By the way, I'm for sensible gun laws that will keep everyone armed to the teeth and the rest of the law abiding crowd safe. There is such a thing as safe.
The AR-15 is NOT a gun, but a war machine that is built to kill many people and rip their innards to death. Built to stop an army and kill as many as possible. There is NO need for such a gun in the general public.
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, break out the old script and deflect away. Wait.....did you guys blame Obama yet? You guys must be slipping, that's on page one, or is it two? You go to the back of the class there Rappy.
Come on now....Hilary, Obama, Chicago. Write that 100 times on the blackboard until you have it committed to memory. It's in the NRA Right Wing Manifesto. You know, they have a pocket-sized version. You can get it on Uber Alles.com
SGG
It's not deflection. It's the truth you hate to discuss because it undercuts the agenda you're attempting to push. Those dead in Chicago and everywhere else that handguns are used are every bit as dead as those in Parkland and Sandy Hook. Your goal isn't just to disarm law abiding citizens of the AR 15, but EVERY gun.
Just admit it.
For some reason, you ignore Chicago's far worse gun problem - yet another gun free zone where laws are strict against gun ownership - and instead focus on " the children ".
Mostly white children, I may add. Think none of those in Chicago aren't children ?
#Hypocrites
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The AR-15 is NOT a gun, but a war machine that is built to kill many people and rip their innards to death. Built to stop an army and kill as many as possible. There is NO need for such a gun in the general public.
Amen. I almost wish... that images of these kids shot to hell would be shown. It's almost too clean and hidden and easy to not think about what these guns actually do to people. This is third world murder style sh*t happening in their America First bs world. Unfortunately, such images would probably make some of these sick f*cks happy.
BTW - yes, kids who survived being targeted from online sources:
http://wapo.st/2F2fTiS
Forty-seven minutes after news broke of a high school shooting in Parkland, Fla., the posters on the anonymous chat board 8chan had devised a plan to bend the public narrative to their own designs: “Start looking for [Jewish] numerology and crisis actors.”
The voices from this dark corner of the Internet quickly coalesced around a plan of attack: Use details gleaned from news reports and other sources to push false information about one of America’s deadliest school shootings.
The posters on anonymous forums, a cauldron of far-right extremist politics, over the next few hours speculated about the shooter’s ethnicity (“Hope the kid isn’t white”) and cracked off-color jokes. They began crafting false explanations about the massacre, including that actors were posing as students, in hopes of blunting what they correctly guessed would be a revived interest in gun control.
The success of this effort would soon illustrate how lies that thrive on raucous online platforms increasingly shape public understanding of major events. As much of the nation mourned, the story concocted on anonymous chat rooms soon burst onto YouTube, Twitter and Facebook, where the theories surged in popularity.
Amid corporate efforts to beat back the falsehoods, the episode became the latest cautionary tale about how the Internet itself had become a potent tool of deception wielded by political extremists, disinformation warriors and conspiracy theorists.
[Crisis actor’ videos lead users to a ‘conspiracy ecosystem’ on YouTube, new research shows]
“There’s a war going on outside, no man is safe from,” said a frequent conspiracy theory poster on the website Reddit, the day after the shooting. “And it is only partially being fought with guns. The real weapon is information and the attack is on the mind.”
A Washington Post review of thousands of posts on sites such as 8chan, 4chan and Reddit showed how people on online forums worked aggressively to undermine news reports about a troubled teen accused of killing 17 people, most of them students.
Former YouTube engineer Guillaume Chaslot referred to coordinated campaigns across online platforms to spread a video as “4chan attacks” because such anonymous forums often served as staging grounds for these efforts. YouTube and Facebook have policies against harassment that served as the basis for removing some of the conspiracy theories. But Chaslot said the companies have not done enough to weed out deceptive content.
The Parkland story line took advantage of emerging details about the surviving students — and even how they looked or talked during interviews with television reporters — to portray them as “crisis actors” playing the roles of victims in a “false flag” attack, a hoax designed to mislead the public and build support for gun control.
The campaign threatens to leave long-lasting scars on students and their families, who find themselves linked online to damaging and unsubstantiated theories in havens of misinformation across the Web. Survivors of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012 and victims’ families still are haunted by these online echoes of their trauma, experts say.
“The parents and the families of these murdered children are still being harassed by people online,” said Joan Donovan, a researcher at the think tank Data & Society who studies me
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Police on scene of shots fired call at Dalton High School
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/37613905/dalton-police-on-scene-of-shots-f
ired-call-at-dalton-high-school
T
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Police on scene of shots fired call at Dalton High School
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/37613905/dalton-police-on-scene-of-shots-f
ired-call-at-dalton-high-school
Time to start arming students I guess.
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Qualifiers like ' responsible ' and ' common sense ' gun ownership are empty and deceptive caveats by the Left. The NRA promotes true gun safety, yet it's being painted as the real villain here, not Nikolas Cruz.
More likely, the real blame can be laid at the feet of ... Broward County itself :
Broward County Likely ‘Inspiration’ for Obama School Discipline Policy to Report Fewer Arrests, Suspensions
“Broward County was the first to have the goal of lowering suspensions, lowering expulsions, lowering arrests,” explains Eden. “And, so, they decided to reduce police involvement by not bringing in cops to arrest kids for a whole range of serious offenses, and then, as you would expect, the arrests go down when you stop arresting. That was taken to be a sign of success, based on that metric alone.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/26/broward-county-like
ly-inspiration-for-obama-school-discipline-policy-to-report-fewer-arrests-suspensions/
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Time to start arming students I guess.
Neal Boortz
Verified account
Israel armed teachers in schools in 1974. Since then only two school shooters. Both were promptly killed by teachers. Clearly arming teachers doesn't work.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:The reports I heard were that the school admin and the Community Activist Sheriff had a no-arrest agreement.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Qualifiers like ' responsible ' and ' common sense ' gun ownership are empty and deceptive caveats by the Left. The NRA promotes true gun safety, yet it's being painted as the real villain here, not Nikolas Cruz.
More likely, the real blame can be laid at the feet of ... Broward County itself :
Broward County Likely ‘Inspiration’ for Obama School Discipline Policy to Report Fewer Arrests, Suspensions
“Broward County was the first to have the goal of lowering suspensions, lowering expulsions, lowering arrests,” explains Eden. “And, so, they decided to reduce police involvement by not bringing in cops to arrest kids for a whole range of serious offenses, and then, as you would expect, the arrests go down when you stop arresting. That was taken to be a sign of success, based on that metric alone.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/26/broward-county-like
ly-inspiration-for-obama-school-discipline-policy-to-report-fewer-arrests-suspensions/
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Quote:Maybe you are confused. Teachers who are untrainable should not be forced to become competent. Only Israeli school teachers are smarter than the rest of the world, and are trainable.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Time to start arming students I guess.
Neal Boortz
Verified account
Israel armed teachers in schools in 1974. Since then only two school shooters. Both were promptly killed by teachers. Clearly arming teachers doesn't work.
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I don't think anybody in their right mind thinks that looking to Israel for how a functioning society works is a good idea.
I think as time goes on we're going to see me agree less and less with the Republicans on this board again. I'm not liking the issues that have been gaining prominence lately and how the Republicans are reacting to them.
It goes without saying that I am not in the Democrat's corner concerning these issues either.
I'm afraid we're at the point that we need to start having discussions about why there is nobody in politics today that is in the middle anymore.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Police on scene of shots fired call at Dalton High School
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/37613905/dalton-police-on-scene-of-shots-f
ired-call-at-dalton-high-school
T
Oh look, another clinically depressed person taking medication. Golly, where are we seeing this combination before? Oh that's right, every mass shooting ever.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Police on scene of shots fired call at Dalton High School
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/37613905/dalton-police-on-scene-of-shots-f
ired-call-at-dalton-high-school
T
Oh look, another clinically depressed person taking medication with a gun. Golly, where are we seeing this combination before? Oh that's right, every mass shooting ever.
fixed that for ya.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't think anybody in their right mind thinks that looking to Israel for how a functioning society works is a good idea.
I think as time goes on we're going to see me agree less and less with the Republicans on this board again. I'm not liking the issues that have been gaining prominence lately and how the Republicans are reacting to them.
It goes without saying that I am not in the Democrat's corner concerning these issues either.
I'm afraid we're at the point that we need to start having discussions about why there is nobody in politics today that is in the middle anymore.
Grab your barf bag 6, T has been saying that since before Trump.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't think anybody in their right mind thinks that looking to Israel for how a functioning society works is a good idea.
I think as time goes on we're going to see me agree less and less with the Republicans on this board again. I'm not liking the issues that have been gaining prominence lately and how the Republicans are reacting to them.
It goes without saying that I am not in the Democrat's corner concerning these issues either.
I'm afraid we're at the point that we need to start having discussions about why there is nobody in politics today that is in the middle anymore.
Grab your barf bag 6, T has been saying that since before Trump.
Thanks for reminding Jack of that G. Because we both appear to have a much bigger problem with the republicans at this point, it is conveniently forgotten by some here the many times you I and others, have expressed our dismay about the democratic party. Problems with their identity politics. Their cries of racism and bigotry against anyone who believes the people should determine policy for immigration, not just a few in political office.
Our hating Hillary as the democratic nominee. Pay to play politics practiced by both parties. The way both parties have worked to give disproportionate influence to corporate and the rich. The list of reasons to dislike both parties is long. However, while the democratic dislike list is long, the republican list at this point in time is endless.
Front and center, Russia...
T
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Thanks for reminding Jack of that G. Because we both appear to have a much bigger problem with the republicans at this point, it is conveniently forgotten by some here the many times you I and others, have expressed our dismay about the democratic party. Problems with their identity politics. Their cries of racism and bigotry against anyone who believes the people should determine policy for immigration, not just a few in political office.
Our hating Hillary as the democratic nominee. Pay to play politics practiced by both parties. The way both parties have worked to give disproportionate influence to corporate and the rich. The list of reasons to dislike both parties is long. However, while the democratic dislike list is long, the republican list at this point in time is endless.
Front and center, Russia...
"Our hating Hillary as the democratic nominee."
Yeah - and thank you for reminding me of that. A few people accused me of never saying anything against Hillary, or doing everything to protect her when the opposite was true. I collected some of my quotes to enlighten them:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=7
“But anyway... Hillary's worst attribute is she's a really bad politician. Even terrible imho. Listening to her speak and try and sound presidential is painful. I can't listen, it's too forced, too fake, and I think that also reveals itself in her actions and policies. She is definitely not a sophisticated thinker and has very little charm or charisma, which could have serious consequences internationally.”
“I totally agree, she's smiling slime.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=6
“Except I hate Hillary.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=2
“As I said previously to you (you should read some of these posts, they're quite good) I could give a rat's behind about her.”
“Hillary is many things but less of a wild card than Trump. He's been complaining about the Iran deal. "We should have them coming to us on their knees..." He's more dangerous than Putin. But whatever and whomever - it's like choosing how you want to take a beating.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60433&p=1
“I could give a sh*t about her and certainly have no interest in defending any professional politician.”
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Quote:Oh look, another clinically depressed person taking medication. Golly, where are we seeing this combination before? Oh that's right, every mass shooting ever.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Police on scene of shots fired call at Dalton High School
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/37613905/dalton-police-on-scene-of-shots-f
ired-call-at-dalton-high-school
T
Good catch.
Teacher Jesse Randall Davidson in Dalton GA has been on several different medicines for depression, and has previously confessed to killing people.
This guy needs to be invited to anti-gun rallies, to trim off the delusionally stupid from the conversation.
Technically, not every mass killing spree. The Muslim acts I don't recall being on meds. With the psychotropic problem being so prevalent and spiralling, the non-medicated killings are able to get lost among them.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
fixed that for ya.
You " fixed " nothing. You ignored the very real and valid issue I made, in hope of distracting from the real issue.
Of all the 10's of MILLLIONS of responsible gun owners in this country, you want to gloss over the fact that every single one of the mass shooters was clinically depressed, going back to 16 year old Brenda Ann Spencer, in 1979.
Big Pharma, not the NRA , is the culprit here.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Originally posted by AURaptor:... you want to gloss over the fact that every single one of the mass shooters was clinically depressed...
No I don't. I said from the very beginning that there are a number of factors that contribute to these tragedies, NOT just one thing. Mental illness, or the basic mental unfitness to handle weapons of any kind, is certainly one factor, and GUNS are another. I don't want you to loose sight of that. This isn't an either/or situation.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:... you want to gloss over the fact that every single one of the mass shooters was clinically depressed...
No I don't. I said from the very beginning that there are a number of factors that contribute to these tragedies, NOT just one thing. Mental illness, or the basic mental unfitness to handle weapons of any kind, is certainly one factor, and GUNS are another. I don't want you to loose sight of that. This isn't an either/or situation.
Mental illness, anti depressant meds, and oh yeah, RED FLAG WARNINGS AFTER RED FLAG WARNINGS which the law enforcement agencies ( FBI, Broward Sherriff's Dept ) ignored, possibly criminally so.
We didn't outlaw airplanes after 9-11. We didn't put pressure cookers under lock and key after Boston.
Why the HELL can't you see what's going on here ???
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
We didn't outlaw airplanes after 9-11. We didn't put pressure cookers under lock and key after Boston.
Guess you haven't flown... ever. Heard of the TSA? New restrictions for carry on? Dogs at the airport? New baggage xray? Ring any bells? Yes, we did a lot after 9/11, same as we should have years, decades ago with guns, but NRA MONEY and chicken sh*t politicians.
Pressure cookers? Really? Do you want me to list the numbers of deaths from guns v. pressure cookers?
That has to be the most brain dead argument I've heard for *defending* the 2nd amendment - congrats.
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Why the HELL can't you see what's going on here ???
Right, Why the HELL can't you see what's going on here ???
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't think anybody in their right mind thinks that looking to Israel for how a functioning society works is a good idea.
I think as time goes on we're going to see me agree less and less with the Republicans on this board again. I'm not liking the issues that have been gaining prominence lately and how the Republicans are reacting to them.
It goes without saying that I am not in the Democrat's corner concerning these issues either.
I'm afraid we're at the point that we need to start having discussions about why there is nobody in politics today that is in the middle anymore.
Grab your barf bag 6, T has been saying that since before Trump.
Saying one thing and doing another, perhaps.
I actually am somewhere in the middle. T is very, very far to the left and says he's not a Democrat. Big difference, and he's got zero evidence behind him to back up those claims compared to my 12-13 years of posts here... minus all of my drunken bullshit, of course.
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Flown plenty since 9-11. Most of the restrictions are needless groping instead of actual profiling of potential terrorists.
x-rays have been a staple for flying long before 9-11.
Planes still fly, pressure cookers are still free as ever to purchase, cars and knives are every bit as easy to rent, buy, what ever...
it's just an object... useless w/ out a deviant evil mind to wield it.
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Quote:How long before Albert Wong in Yountville is added to the list of psychotropic drug victims? Will they be able to cover it up forever?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Good catch.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:Oh look, another clinically depressed person taking medication. Golly, where are we seeing this combination before? Oh that's right, every mass shooting ever.
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Police on scene of shots fired call at Dalton High School
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/37613905/dalton-police-on-scene-of-shots-f
ired-call-at-dalton-high-school
T
Teacher Jesse Randall Davidson in Dalton GA has been on several different medicines for depression, and has previously confessed to killing people.
This guy needs to be invited to anti-gun rallies, to trim off the delusionally stupid from the conversation.
Technically, not every mass killing spree. The Muslim acts I don't recall being on meds. With the psychotropic problem being so prevalent and spiralling, the non-medicated killings are able to get lost among them.
This might be the first ever case of the Doctor prescribing the psychotropic drug actually being held accountable, in the Karmic sense.
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My brother has 3 nephews and a niece on my sis-in-law's side. Both parents work full time, and the dad works overtime. All 3 of the boys are put on some sort of pills to chill them out, and the youngest one has been on them since he was 7 years old. They aren't bad kids at all. They're normal growing boys. The parents and school system just can't be bothered to deal with them.
I do hope that in lieu of good parenting and a decent school system that making your children guinea pigs for Big Pharma works out for them.
I refuse to even meet these people on the off chance that this topic ever comes up in front of me. Even stone sober I know that I'd say something that would jeopardize my relationship with my brother and I'm not willing to do that.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Flown plenty since 9-11. Most of the restrictions are needless groping instead of actual profiling of potential terrorists.
x-rays have been a staple for flying long before 9-11.
Planes still fly, pressure cookers are still free as ever to purchase, cars and knives are every bit as easy to rent, buy, what ever...
it's just an object... useless w/ out a deviant evil mind to wield it.
Why are you always picking on the kids. They have a right to be upset moron.
T
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Flown plenty since 9-11. Most of the restrictions are needless groping instead of actual profiling of potential terrorists.
x-rays have been a staple for flying long before 9-11.
Planes still fly, pressure cookers are still free as ever to purchase, cars and knives are every bit as easy to rent, buy, what ever...
it's just an object... useless w/ out a deviant evil mind to wield it.
Why are you always picking on the kids. They have a right to be upset moron.
T
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Flown plenty since 9-11. Most of the restrictions are needless groping instead of actual profiling of potential terrorists.
x-rays have been a staple for flying long before 9-11.
Planes still fly, pressure cookers are still free as ever to purchase, cars and knives are every bit as easy to rent, buy, what ever...
it's just an object... useless w/ out a deviant evil mind to wield it.
It's not "just an object." It's not "just like" the other things. You're drinking NRA koolaid if you think so. For example: If you're going to commit murder, which one would you use? If you're going to commit suicide, which one are you going to use? And if you want to tell me that you have a way to make mankind not want to do either of those I got more bad news for you and it's about your own mental health.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Flown plenty since 9-11. Most of the restrictions are needless groping instead of actual profiling of potential terrorists.
x-rays have been a staple for flying long before 9-11.
Planes still fly, pressure cookers are still free as ever to purchase, cars and knives are every bit as easy to rent, buy, what ever...
it's just an object... useless w/ out a deviant evil mind to wield it.
It's not "just an object." It's not "just like" the other things. You're drinking NRA koolaid if you think so. For example: If you're going to commit murder, which one would you use? If you're going to commit suicide, which one are you going to use? And if you want to tell me that you have a way to make mankind not want to do either of those I got more bad news for you and it's about your own mental health.
Plenty of people do both without guns. Even in the US.
Suicide by gun is actually a very stupid thing to do. That's what my Uncle did. My aunt found him much later because she heard noises from the garage and thought it was an animal in pain. He lived half a day longer in the hospital before he passed.
If you're going to do suicide by gun, a shotgun is the only real surefire way, and as far as I know, there's not a single proposed legislature out there that is even bringing up the idea of outlawing shotguns.
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Quote:When you kill targets in a video game you don't use a gun when collateral damage might include something critical. If max collateral was the goal, the instrument of choice would be a mine, bomb, or grenade.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:It's not "just an object." It's not "just like" the other things. You're drinking NRA koolaid if you think so. For example: If you're going to commit murder, which one would you use? If you're going to commit suicide, which one are you going to use? And if you want to tell me that you have a way to make mankind not want to do either of those I got more bad news for you and it's about your own mental health.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Flown plenty since 9-11. Most of the restrictions are needless groping instead of actual profiling of potential terrorists.
x-rays have been a staple for flying long before 9-11.
Planes still fly, pressure cookers are still free as ever to purchase, cars and knives are every bit as easy to rent, buy, what ever...
it's just an object... useless w/ out a deviant evil mind to wield it.
These victims of Psychotropic drugs use axes, knives, machetes, rope to kill or injure others.
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Quote:I say the kids are right. Did you have something to ask me?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
And how many Leftists are going to HONESTLY sit there and tell us , with a straight face, they totally trust the police ??
That, my friends, is what we call SJW checkmate.
Any Black Lives Matter or antifa activists still here?
What say you, reaverfan?
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Checkmate? LOL!
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Plenty of people do both without guns. Even in the US.
What's your point? Lately it seems it's usually: do nothing.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Suicide by gun is actually a very stupid thing to do. That's what my Uncle did. My aunt found him much later because she heard noises from the garage and thought it was an animal in pain. He lived half a day longer in the hospital before he passed.
Do you wish your uncle had had a shotgun? Or that he hadn't tried to kill himself?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you're going to do suicide by gun, a shotgun is the only real surefire way, and as far as I know, there's not a single proposed legislature out there that is even bringing up the idea of outlawing shotguns.
There are plenty of sure fire ways - not sure what your point is here either.
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I have the perfect solution:
Why doesn't the NRA pay retired Vets of Foreign Wars to arm themselves and protect the kids of their neighborhoods? The NRA should put it's money where it's mouth is. They should put out an ad asking for volunteers.
They sell more guns, they employ out of work people, and they put the skills of these vets to work. It's a win, win, win situation.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Maybe you are confused. Teachers who are untrainable should not be forced to become competent. Only Israeli school teachers are smarter than the rest of the world, and are trainable.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Time to start arming students I guess.
Neal Boortz
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Israel armed teachers in schools in 1974. Since then only two school shooters. Both were promptly killed by teachers. Clearly arming teachers doesn't work.
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Somewhere in this thread has there been mention of Nicholas Cruz being with Antifa?
Was reading that the Laguna Beach Antifa said not to retweet the pic of Nicholas Cruz wearing the Antifa T-shirt.
Was this already covered?
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Why are you always picking on the kids. They have a right to be upset moron.
" Always "? That's a silly claim to make. THESE kids, the portion of them which the media shows, while ignoring the others who are just fine w/ the NRA, actually have no reason TO be upset.
This is 100% fabricated, asterturfed " outrage ", that's being parlayed into a vocal voting block. Nothing more. If they really want to be upset at someone, why not the kid who they bullied, Nikolas Cruz ? Or the Broward County Sheriff Dept, who responded to 39 calls for domestic violence ? Or the FBI, who absolutely knew about the danger this kid displayed - having been EXPELLED from that very school for VIOLENCE ... or even the drug companies, who doped him and every other degenerate mass shooter.
I will not be lectured to by 15-17 yr olds who think they know how to run everything, and want to accuse everyone else in the world for their problems except the very ones who caused them.
And F every single adult who cheers on this madness.
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Quote:The only way to stop the problem is to hold the Doctors responsible and accountable for prescribing the drugs. The Drug Companies have piles of money set aside for payoffs, and they still rake in too much to stop. But when ambivalent uncaring reckless Doctors start going to prison, that is when this nonsense will stop.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Why are you always picking on the kids. They have a right to be upset moron.
" Always "? That's a silly claim to make. THESE kids, the portion of them which the media shows, while ignoring the others who are just fine w/ the NRA, actually have no reason TO be upset.
This is 100% fabricated, asterturfed " outrage ", that's being parlayed into a vocal voting block. Nothing more. If they really want to be upset at someone, why not the kid who they bullied, Nikolas Cruz ? Or the Broward County Sheriff Dept, who responded to 39 calls for domestic violence ? Or the FBI, who absolutely knew about the danger this kid displayed - having been EXPELLED from that very school for VIOLENCE ... or even the drug companies, who doped him and every other degenerate mass shooter.
I will not be lectured to by 15-17 yr olds who think they know how to run everything, and want to accuse everyone else in the world for their problems except the very ones who caused them.
And F every single adult who cheers on this madness
See the thread in News Headline about creating these Reavers.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I have the perfect solution:
Why doesn't the NRA pay retired Vets of Foreign Wars to arm themselves and protect the kids of their neighborhoods? The NRA should put it's money where it's mouth is. They should put out an ad asking for volunteers.
They sell more guns, they employ out of work people, and they put the skills of these vets to work. It's a win, win, win situation.
I think that's a great idea. This new school security would be armed with guns that local cops have confiscated. I'm sure the NRA would understand that it just looks bad if they profit from mass slaughter.
Of course, when this deterrent works it will just send these crazies to churches, sporting events, and malls where the security is easier to breech, but we'll solve that with more guns, surely.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Why are you always picking on the kids. They have a right to be upset moron.
" Always "? That's a silly claim to make. THESE kids, the portion of them which the media shows, while ignoring the others who are just fine w/ the NRA, actually have no reason TO be upset.
This is 100% fabricated, asterturfed " outrage ", that's being parlayed into a vocal voting block. Nothing more. If they really want to be upset at someone, why not the kid who they bullied, Nikolas Cruz ? Or the Broward County Sheriff Dept, who responded to 39 calls for domestic violence ? Or the FBI, who absolutely knew about the danger this kid displayed - having been EXPELLED from that very school for VIOLENCE ... or even the drug companies, who doped him and every other degenerate mass shooter.
I will not be lectured to by 15-17 yr olds who think they know how to run everything, and want to accuse everyone else in the world for their problems except the very ones who caused them.
And F every single adult who cheers on this madness.
15-17? Try working with a 20 year old these days, Rap. Still shitting yellow and afraid of their own damn shadow. What are we doing to these kids?
EDITED TO ADD: Jesus... I even get the problem from T's post while quoting you because you quoted him and didn't fix it yourself.
FIX YOUR DAMN SETUP T.
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I recently heard it pointed out that the only truly spontaneous protests in this century was the Tea Party movement.
After that impact was seen, Democrap agitators created a template for Activist goons which would simulate or imitate the Tea Party.
Hint: Tea Party events never had Voter Registration For Democraps Drives.
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I heard the school truancy gathering in Washington had the most EVER marchers, at 800,000.
Does this mean the Million Marchers was a lie? Or does Libtard Maths define One Million as less than 0.8 Million?
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I'm curious - does anyone here believe Sandy Hook and/ or Marjory Stoneman were false flag attacks/ fake news with crisis actors?
I'm just trying to get a read on what people think are the facts.
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
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Quote:Do you feel that Sandy Hook being an Elementary School while MSD was a High School affect your question?
Originally posted by 1kiki:
I'm curious - does anyone here believe Sandy Hook and/ or Marjory Stoneman were false flag attacks/ fake news with crisis actors?
I'm just trying to get a read on what people think are the facts.
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?
Or the fact that they haven't released the name of the psychiatric drug responsible for MSD yet, while Fanapt was the cause of Sandy Hook?
I did recall the Sandy Hook community was supposedly Liberal, but did they also have an Activist Community Agitator Sheriff like Lakewood, who refused to allow the children to be saved?
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I think that's a great idea. This new school security would be armed with guns that local cops have confiscated. I'm sure the NRA would understand that it just looks bad if they profit from mass slaughter.
Precisely. They do profit from mass slaughter, but they don't have the balls to put their money where their mouth is. You put guns in the hands of teachers and you will see more of the same, it just doesn't make sense.
My suggestion was half tongue-in-cheek but it makes more sense to employ vets who have served their country with distinction.
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Of course, when this deterrent works it will just send these crazies to churches, sporting events, and malls where the security is easier to breech, but we'll solve that with more guns, surely.
Again, precisely. You see right through my little witticisms. According to the Washington Post, most gun owners don't belong to the NRA - and they don't agree with it either. It's assumed "that the NRA represents the voice of American gun owners." Only a small fraction of the nation's gun owners are NRA members. That number has been put at 5 million who pay dues, if that number is right, that means that somewhere between 6-7% of American gun owners. Then that means that over 90%
do not belong to the NRA.
I will post the article below.........
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/15/most-gun-owners-
dont-belong-to-the-nra-and-they-dont-agree-with-it-either/?utm_term=.8e3fdb59ef04
There are anywhere from 200 to 300 hundred million guns in this country. Confiscating that amount is much like Trump building that Wall, a myth, so I wouldn't worry about a few gun control measures to keep kids safe.
Of course, you need common sense to come to that conclusion.
SGG
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I have the perfect solution:
Why doesn't the NRA pay retired Vets of Foreign Wars to arm themselves and protect the kids of their neighborhoods? The NRA should put it's money where it's mouth is. They should put out an ad asking for volunteers.
They sell more guns, they employ out of work people, and they put the skills of these vets to work. It's a win, win, win situation.
I think that's a great idea. This new school security would be armed with guns that local cops have confiscated. I'm sure the NRA would understand that it just looks bad if they profit from mass slaughter.
Of course, when this deterrent works it will just send these crazies to churches, sporting events, and malls where the security is easier to breech, but we'll solve that with more guns, surely.
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Quote:Your ignorance and delusions know no bounds.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:No I don't. I said from the very beginning that there are a number of factors that contribute to these tragedies, NOT just one thing. Mental illness, or the basic mental unfitness to handle weapons of any kind, is certainly one factor, and GUNS are another. I don't want you to loose sight of that. This isn't an either/or situation.
Originally posted by AURaptor:... you want to gloss over the fact that every single one of the mass shooters was clinically depressed...
Just because you have no clue about guns does not mean that professional Law Enforcement Officers, Coroners, Medical Examiners, and Crime Scene Technicians have been mistaking actual GUNS for the MACHETES, AXES, KNIFES, ROPES, SWORDS and Human Teeth used to commit the acts if these psychotropic drug-agitated Reavers.
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Quote:To put a stop to your delusions that GUNS should never be regulated because of very recent and weird misinterpretations of the Second Amendment, John Paul Stevens, retired associate justice of the United States Supreme Court, recommended that the amendment be repealed. He wrote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Your delusions know no bounds.
Just because you have no clue about guns does not mean that professional Law Enforcement Officers, Coroners, Medical Examiners, and Crime Scene Technicians have been mistaking actual GUNS for the MACHETES, AXES, KNIFES, ROPES, SWORDS and Human Teeth used to commit the acts if these psychotropic drug-agitated Reavers.
During the years when Warren Burger was our chief justice, from 1969 to 1986, no judge, federal or state, as far as I am aware, expressed any doubt as to the limited coverage of the Second Amendment. When organizations like the National Rifle Association disagreed with that position and began their campaign claiming that federal regulation of firearms curtailed Second Amendment rights, Chief Justice Burger publicly characterized the N.R.A. as perpetrating “one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”
For over 200 years after the adoption of the Second Amendment, it was uniformly understood as not placing any limit on either federal or state authority to enact gun control legislation. Example: in 1939 the Supreme Court unanimously held that Congress could prohibit the possession of a sawed-off shotgun because that weapon had no reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a “well regulated militia.”
Concern that a national standing army might pose a threat to the security of the separate states led to the adoption of that amendment, which provides that “a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Today that concern is a relic of the 18th century.
In 2008, the Supreme Court overturned Chief Justice Burger’s and others’ long-settled understanding of the Second Amendment’s limited reach by ruling, in District of Columbia v. Heller, that there was an individual right to bear arms. I was among the four dissenters. [If anyone asks, the five judges that voted for the decision were lunatic Republicans, as is JewelStaiteFan.] www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZD.html and www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZD1.html
That decision — which I remain convinced was wrong and certainly was debatable — has provided the N.R.A. with a propaganda weapon of immense power. Overturning that decision via a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple and would do more to weaken the N.R.A.’s ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option.
It would eliminate the only legal rule that protects sellers of firearms in the United States — unlike every other market in the world.
www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-ame
ndment.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:nytimes. This is where you fail.
Originally posted by second:Quote:To put a stop to your delusions that GUNS should never be regulated because of very recent and weird misinterpretations of the Second Amendment, John Paul Stevens, retired associate justice of the United States Supreme Court, recommended that the amendment be repealed. He wrote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Your delusions know no bounds.
Just because you have no clue about guns does not mean that professional Law Enforcement Officers, Coroners, Medical Examiners, and Crime Scene Technicians have been mistaking actual GUNS for the MACHETES, AXES, KNIFES, ROPES, SWORDS and Human Teeth used to commit the acts if these psychotropic drug-agitated Reavers.
During the years when Warren Burger was our chief justice, from 1969 to 1986, no judge, federal or state, as far as I am aware, expressed any doubt as to the limited coverage of the Second Amendment. When organizations like the National Rifle Association disagreed with that position and began their campaign claiming that federal regulation of firearms curtailed Second Amendment rights, Chief Justice Burger publicly characterized the N.R.A. as perpetrating “one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.”
For over 200 years after the adoption of the Second Amendment, it was uniformly understood as not placing any limit on either federal or state authority to enact gun control legislation. Example: in 1939 the Supreme Court unanimously held that Congress could prohibit the possession of a sawed-off shotgun because that weapon had no reasonable relation to the preservation or efficiency of a “well regulated militia.”
Concern that a national standing army might pose a threat to the security of the separate states led to the adoption of that amendment, which provides that “a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Today that concern is a relic of the 18th century.
In 2008, the Supreme Court overturned Chief Justice Burger’s and others’ long-settled understanding of the Second Amendment’s limited reach by ruling, in District of Columbia v. Heller, that there was an individual right to bear arms. I was among the four dissenters. [If anyone asks, the five judges that voted for the decision were lunatic Republicans, as is JewelStaiteFan.]
That decision — which I remain convinced was wrong and certainly was debatable — has provided the N.R.A. with a propaganda weapon of immense power. Overturning that decision via a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Second Amendment would be simple and would do more to weaken the N.R.A.’s ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option.
It would eliminate the only legal rule that protects sellers of firearms in the United States — unlike every other market in the world.
www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-ame
ndment.html
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Quote:Cornell Law School does not concur with your decision on guns: www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZD.html and www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZD1.html
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
nytimes. This is where you fail.
Quote:I read Justice Antonin Scalia's weirdo interpretation of the Second Amendment. www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZO.html I am absolutely not surprised that the fat greedy glutton choked to death on a chicken bone caught in his throat. A typical example of Scalia going on and on, dragging out his dictionary to pump more hot air into his empty balloon of opinion, but without one ounce of common sense:
Justice Breyer, with whom Justice Stevens, Justice Souter, and Justice Ginsburg join, dissenting.
We must decide whether a District of Columbia law that prohibits the possession of handguns in the home violates the Second Amendment . The majority, relying upon its view that the Second Amendment seeks to protect a right of personal self-defense, holds that this law violates that Amendment. In my view, it does not.
The majority’s conclusion is wrong for two independent reasons. The first reason is that set forth by Justice Stevens—namely, that the Second Amendment protects militia-related, not self-defense-related, interests. These two interests are sometimes intertwined. To assure 18th-century citizens that they could keep arms for militia purposes would necessarily have allowed them to keep arms that they could have used for self-defense as well. But self-defense alone, detached from any militia-related objective, is not the Amendment’s concern.
The second independent reason is that the protection the Amendment provides is not absolute. The Amendment permits government to regulate the interests that it serves. Thus, irrespective of what those interests are—whether they do or do not include an independent interest in self-defense—the majority’s view cannot be correct unless it can show that the District’s regulation is unreasonable or inappropriate in Second Amendment terms. This the majority cannot do.
Quote:Scalia was making an argument that no weapon can be regulated. Any weapon is an "arm" and no arms can be regulated per his interpretation of the Second Amendment. After building his argument, he uses it only for handguns, but the argument does not have any limitation to exclusively guns. Scalia got completely carried away with the beauty of hi
Before addressing the verbs “keep” and “bear,” we interpret their object: “Arms.” The 18th-century meaning is no different from the meaning today. The 1773 edition of Samuel Johnson’s dictionary defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.” 1 Dictionary of the English Language 107 (4th ed.) (hereinafter Johnson). Timothy Cunningham’s important 1771 legal dictionary defined “arms” as “any thing that a man wears for his defence, or takes into his hands, or useth in wrath to cast at or strike another.” 1 A New and Complete Law Dictionary (1771); see also N. Webster, American Dictionary of the English Language (1828) (reprinted 1989) (hereinafter Webster) (similar).
The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity. For instance, Cunningham’s legal dictionary gave as an example of usage: “Servants and labourers shall use bows and arrows on Sundays, &c. and not bear other arms.” See also, e.g., An Act for the trial of Negroes, 1797 Del. Laws ch. XLIII, §6, p. 104, in 1 First Laws of the State of Delaware 102, 104 (J. Cushing ed. 1981 (pt. 1)); see generally State v. Duke, 42Tex. 455, 458 (1874) (citing decisions of state courts construing “arms”). Although one founding-era thesaurus limited “arms” (as opposed to “weapons”) to “instruments of offence generally made use of in war,” even that source stated that all firearms constituted “arms.” 1 J. Trusler, The Distinction Between Words Esteemed Synonymous in the English Language37 (1794) (emphasis added).
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To stop skyjacking, Archie Bunker would arm all the passengers. Archie is a genius 40 years ahead of his time with the same idea behind arming all the teachers.
Guns are responsible for the largest share of U.S. homicides in over 80 years, federal mortality data shows
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The much-discussed spike in homicide rates between 2014 and 2016 is due almost entirely to gun homicides, an analysis of federal homicide data reveals.
The spike was so drastic that in 2016, gun homicides accounted for a greater share of all homicides than at any point in the federal record, which contains more than 80 years of complete data for the United States.
The numbers underscore how the violent-crime problem is, now more than ever, a gun-violence problem. After years of record sales, firearms are more prevalent in society than at any time in recent history. The high number of civilian guns in circulation means more opportunities for guns to be diverted into the hands of people at risk of harming others with them.
To arrive at the numbers above, more than 100 years of federal homicide statistics were compiled, stretching back to the year 1910.
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Oh well.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Golly. Looks like Obama's plan worked, kicked off with Fast & Furious.
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To stop skyjacking, Archie Bunker would arm all the passengers. Archie is a genius 40 years ahead of his time with the same idea behind arming all the teachers.
Guns are responsible for the largest share of U.S. homicides in over 80 years, federal mortality data shows
https://goo.gl/Z4yRVU
The much-discussed spike in homicide rates between 2014 and 2016 is due almost entirely to gun homicides, an analysis of federal homicide data reveals.
The spike was so drastic that in 2016, gun homicides accounted for a greater share of all homicides than at any point in the federal record, which contains more than 80 years of complete data for the United States.
The numbers underscore how the violent-crime problem is, now more than ever, a gun-violence problem. After years of record sales, firearms are more prevalent in society than at any time in recent history. The high number of civilian guns in circulation means more opportunities for guns to be diverted into the hands of people at risk of harming others with them.
To arrive at the numbers above, more than 100 years of federal homicide statistics were compiled, stretching back to the year 1910.
More at https://goo.gl/Z4yRVU
What was Chicago's change in fatal violence from 2014-2016, or from 2008-2016?
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Radio show host Alex Jones arrives at the Travis County Courthouse in Austin on Monday. Parents of two children slain at Sandy Hook Elementary have filed suit against him, seeking $1 million in damages from defamation.
Three parents whose children were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary in 2012 filed a defamation lawsuit Tuesday against Alex Jones, the right-wing conspiracy theorist who has long claimed the shooting was “completely fake” and a “giant hoax” perpetrated by opponents of the Second Amendment.
Jones, the popular radio show host who also operates the conspiracy theory website Infowars, has questioned for years whether 20 children and six adults died in the school massacre in Newtown, Conn. To bolster his false claims, he often cites news reports and video clips from the hours after the shooting that turned out to be incomplete or based on wrong information.
Soon after they buried their children, many Sandy Hook parents started to come under fierce attack by conspiracy theorists who have said they are actors in an elaborate scheme to enact stricter gun control laws. The fringe theories still thrive in small forums online but have reached a far greater audience through Jones, the most vocal propagator.
www.outsidethebeltway.com/sandy-hook-parents-sue-alex-jones-for-defama
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Did we all celebrate another Truancy Day today?
Who really believes this was anything more than Skip School on Pot Day?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did we all celebrate another Truancy Day today?
Who really believes this was anything more than Skip School on Pot Day?
I doubt many kids were skipping school man. I'm guessing you don't have any kids of your own? That shit is expensive these days.
Even by the time I was still in high school, my school started giving parents actual law enforced "truancy tickets" if their kid didn't show up to school and the parents didn't call in ahead stating they were sick (and if there were going to be more than two straight days absent a doctor's note was necessary to avoid this ticket).
I'm too lazy too look up info on it now, but when I was in high school, my art teacher printed up some info about this for us that I remember to this day. It showed how the money that a school gets from the federal government was tied directly to how many students went there and to their daily attendance. If a student were to miss a day, even for legitimate absences, the school got that much less money. This started somewhere in the mid to late 90's, and I can only imagine that it's gotten even more expensive to the school districts in 2018 when kids play hookie.
Between in-school lunches ensuring kids stay on campus all day, truancy tickets, metal detectors and armed guards, the American Public School system is looking more and more like prison every year.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz is sentenced to life in prison
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/13/1128216085/parkland-shooter-nikolas-cru
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