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The man - caused climate change / global warming thread

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Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:45 PM

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Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:02 PM

You really ARE a funny guy!!

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Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:28 PM

The best way to answer the post of a moron is with another moron. Here you go Rappy. When reading your posts this character always comes to mind.






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Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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It is very dull and meticulous work, but it is also very practical and useful to build a model that predicts with great confidence climate changes many years BEFORE the changes are here. That model is still a work in progress. Scientists are building prototype models, month after month, year after year. http://cpo.noaa.gov/

The participants of the first annual U.S. Climate Modeling Summit (USCMS), held February 11, 2015, have published a report describing key outcomes from the summit, including an outline of a common vision and unique roles for each of the country’s six premier climate modeling centers.

Report of the First U.S. Climate Modeling Summit
NOAA Center for Weather and Climate Prediction, College Park MD
April 26, 2015 www.globalchange.gov/sites/globalchange/files/USCMS_Report_Final-v3-cl
ean_df.pdf


Some people believe so strongly that they tattoo themselves. Let's make believe that this is a climate change tattoo because it models autumn leaves blowing in the wind:
http://feyith.deviantart.com/art/Leaves-on-the-Wind-Firefly-Serenity-T
attoo-530805961


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Friday, May 22, 2015 3:48 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
You really ARE a funny guy!!





Thanks. That did make me smile.


Also, we have finite resources. And by that I mean the GOVERNMENT has finite resources. Wasting time and $ trying to promote a naturally occurring variation in planetary climate makes exactly zero sense.

Use that energy and $ to better the lives of humans living NOW. Help the poor. Repair and upgrade infrastructure. Stop flying idiots all across the globe in fuel guzzling planes, to stay in 5 star hotels and waste all manner of food, for meaningless conferences which amount to zilch in impacting either the climate or the lives of ANYONE.

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Friday, May 22, 2015 6:33 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Wasting time and $ trying to promote a naturally occurring variation in planetary climate makes exactly zero sense.

That word "naturally" is as purely political as it gets. Naturally, ExxonMobil, the American Petroleum Institute, the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation and the Southern Company are funding that very idea. People are paid to spread a notion on the internet that climate is all "natural", all the time, completely untouched by mankind.

The Koch Brothers want to be the first Trillionaires in history. If the Koch Brothers were more widely known to be dumping Gigatons of CO2 into the air every year, they might not reach their goal of being the richest brothers in the world. CO2 is invisible, so it is not obvious who dumped it from where. The Koch Brothers want to keep things that way: invisible and not obvious. Climate scientists paid by NOAA are standing in the way of the Koch Brothers.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/13/koch-industries-refuses-senato
rs-climate-investigation

www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/feb/14/funding-climate-change-den
ial-thinktanks-network


It was a nice rhetorical gambit to be concerned for the poor. All that money being wasted on computing climate models could be better used to help the blah-blah-blah. Except nobody believes you care about the poor.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, May 22, 2015 9:13 AM

#2 - nothing remotely political about naturally occurring .

The term applies.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, May 22, 2015 9:19 AM

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......Rappy

Also, we have finite resources. And by that I mean the GOVERNMENT has finite resources. Wasting time and $ trying to promote a naturally occurring variation in planetary climate makes exactly zero sense.

Use that energy and $ to better the lives of humans living NOW. Help the poor. Repair and upgrade infrastructure. Stop flying idiots all across the globe in fuel guzzling planes, to stay in 5 star hotels and waste all manner of food, for meaningless conferences which amount to zilch in impacting either the climate or the lives of ANYONE.






The fallacy of relative privation or appeal to other problems, is a fallacy in which it is suggested an opponent's arguments should be dismissed or ignored on the grounds that more important problems exist, even though these issues are often completely unrelated to the subject at hand.


While repairing our infrastructure is important, changes due to global warming are going to contribute to the poor suffering more than society can possible hope to cope with.

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Friday, May 22, 2015 5:15 PM

What changes ? It's cold in winter, hot in summer ...
There ARE no changes! Natural variations are a part of how life adapts & evolves. You're literally saying nothing when bringing up this crap about how the poor are affected more... Living affects the poor. The weather is the least of their worries.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Friday, May 22, 2015 6:12 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
#2 - nothing remotely political about naturally occurring .

The term applies.

You did not read those two articles in the Guardian, did you? The Koch brothers said, through their paid spokesman, that they have a first amendment constitutional right to say any lie about climate change they want and they have the right to pay people to repeat that lie for them and that the Koch brothers have the right to not self-incriminate before the Senate about their motives and about their "facts" and how the Koch brothers "proved" those "facts".
www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/feb/14/funding-climate-change-den
ial-thinktanks-network

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/13/koch-industries-refuses-senato
rs-climate-investigation


There is a philosophical problem: Are Koch brothers liars when they have people selling an idea that has not been proven true? The idea has already made hundreds of billions for the Koch boys, so philosophy be damned. And the Koch brothers don't have the honesty to say that this political message has been paid for by the Koch boys.

Those boys know they are crooked.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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