As Palestinians pushes for statehood, Israel finds itself more isolated
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There are links between nations, cordial relations, firm bonds, alliances and strategic partnerships. But what Turkey and Israel had in mind just four years ago was something akin to being joined at the hip. The plan was to snake an extraordinary "infrastructure corridor" from Ceyhan in Turkey's south to Haifa in Israel's north, a thick bundle of pipes carrying crude oil in one, electricity in another, natural gas in yet another and in the fourth, a steady flow of fresh, sweet water, all thrumming along the floor of the Mediterranean Sea. Not only would these pipes serve as ties that bind two nations, but they would also show the world that a Muslim country could tether itself to the Jewish state, to their mutual benefit.
Which makes the events of the past few weeks all the more worrisome for Israel. With dizzying speed, Turkey has gone from offering oil and gas to Israel to threatening to send gunboats to the Gaza Strip to protect activists seeking to break Israel's naval blockade of the Palestinian territory. Enraged by Israel's refusal to apologize for its killing of eight Turks (and one Turkish American) on board a blockade-busting ferry last year, Ankara has ejected Israel's ambassador, downgraded diplomatic relations and imposed military sanctions on its former ally. And that "infrastructure corridor"? It's now a mere pipe dream.
This conspicuous unfriending could hardly come at a worse time for Israel. As representatives of 193 nations gather in New York City for their annual U.N. conclave, Palestinian leaders are polishing a statehood proposal that would change the fundamental terms of the Middle East's core conflict, possibly putting them on the same legal footing as Israel.
With most of the world sympathetic to the Palestinians, waylaying their application for statehood will require Israel to deploy diplomatic skills of the highest order. But its preparations have not been going well. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warmed up for the big event by alienating the U.S. President, at once misquoting and lecturing Obama during Netanyahu's visit to Washington in May. Then there's the Arab Spring, which knocked over the Arab neighbor Israel relied on most, Egypt's Hosni Mubarak; last week, the Israeli embassy was attacked by protesters in Cairo while the riot police stood by. The spectacular collapse of the Turkey alliance makes three strikes.
The game's not over. Obama still plans to use the U.S. veto in the Security Council to deny Palestinians full membership. But they could take the matter to the General Assembly, where a vote would likely be lopsided, leaving Israel looking conspicuously isolated. Israelis approach the threats one at a time. The Netanyahu government is avoiding a diplomatic contre temps with Egypt, since the 1979 peace treaty between the two countries is crucial to Israel's defense. The U.N. is easier to criticize, and most Israelis feel it is generally biased toward the Palestinians. "We don't like the U.N.," says Daniel Reisner, a longtime peace negotiator and international-law specialist. "We don't trust it."
And Turkey? In a country where new homes are built with bomb shelters, diplomatic conflict is easily dismissed. "Turkey, Burkey," said Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, spiritual leader of the Shas party, a key member of Netanyahu's ruling coalition. "God Almighty couldn't care less about them. Who are they anyway?"
Although Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was once hailed as a vital ally, many Israelis now regard him as a neo-Ottoman, out to revive Turkish leadership of the Muslim world by beating up on the Jewish state. That's certainly how they perceived Erdogan's performance in Cairo, where he said in a Sept. 13 speech to the Arab League that Israel must "pay a price for its aggression and crimes" and
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" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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We're in a sorry state as a party if all Auraptor has to do is to post the actual campaign poster of 2008. Select to view spoiler:
That said, he has a point. Obama's expansive mideast conflicts have forced the situation. Also, One thing about supporting Israel is you can't support them into idiocy with the idea that we'll always have their backs. The showdown with Turkey is pure idiocy. Ankara has one of the world's largest armies. They can crush Israel like a bug if they want to.
The unofficial word from the EU is that this is the real reason there is so much trepidation about Turkey joining: It would automatically become the most powerful nation in Europe.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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"They can crush Israel like a bug"
Hello,
I'm not convinced that any nation can crush Israel 'like a bug.' I think the process would be much more like crushing some kind of predator, with the likelihood that you'll lose a limb while you're at it.
It also does very little good to have a large army if that army is not as well trained and motivated as the army of your enemy. I think anyone who wants to march into Israel will have to pave the road with their own blood.
Israel does not have the largest army in their region, but I believe they do have one of the most effective.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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Israel strikes Lebanon, Gaza after rocket salvo from Lebanese soil
https://www.macaubusiness.com/israel-strikes-lebanon-gaza-after-rocket
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At least 200 killed, 1,100 wounded in Hamas attack on Israel, rescue service says
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/10/06/at-least-200-killed-1100-wound
ed-in-hamas-attack-on-israel-rescue-service-says/
Palestinian militants launch dozens of rockets into Israel. Sirens are heard across the country
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-rockets-airs
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Israel Latest: Netanyahu, Biden Speak With Nation on War Footing
https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/israel-latest-netanyahu-bid
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will the States and Kingdoms and nations of islamics condemn mass murder and rocket attacks?
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iran say Israel has only itself to blame for Hamas attacks
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4243388-saudi-arabia-qatar-ir
an-blame-israel-hamas-attacks/
An Israeli woman is abducted by Hamas and taken hostage. This is unprecedented. You don’t see this happening anywhere else.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1710596139626660211
Palestine tower leveled after Israeli strikes in Gaza
https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1710682510672433251
‘We are at war,’ Netanyahu says, after Hamas launches devastating surprise attack
https://www.timesofisrael.com/we-are-at-war-netanyahu-says-after-hamas
-launches-devastating-surprise-attack/
Pentagon says it will support Israel after Netanyahu declares war
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4243366-pentagon-says-it-will-suppo
rt-israel-after-leader-declares-war/
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The way Israel treats Palestinians, Palestinians are living in an open-air prison. It's the equivalent of how the Jews were forced into the Warsaw ghetto in WWII.
Palestinians are surrounded by a wall and barbed wire. Anyone traveling from Palestine to Israel or vice versa must pass thru a dozen checkpoints. That makes emergency services non-existent in Palestine.
Palestinian land is taken and turned into Jewish settlements, olive groves are bulldozed, houses knocked down. Water and electricity are restricted. Palestinians have no vote. Unemployment is high. Israeli army routinely patrols Palestine. Throw a rock, you get shot. Or your family's house gets knocked down.
Israel is a JEWISH STATE. Being a citizen is restricted to Jews. The laws of Israel enforce Jewish religious practices. It is as much a religious state as Saudi Arabia. Zionists believe that they're genetically superior to Arabs.
Israeli Jews, for the most part, are NOT democracy -loving liberal westerners. Get a grip, JAYNZE. I know you have a permanent fear and hatred of Muslims, but just bc someone is against Muslims doesn't mean they're good people.
Squeeze people hard enough, long enough, and they will revolt. IMHO that's what's happening.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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People still get me wrong
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Israeli Jews, for the most part, are NOT democracy -loving liberal westerners.
LMFAO I never said they were
and its very strange how people fall back into the Default Team A vs B, Left vs Right, Conservative vs Liberal
if you want my opinion
I typically say F--K Them Both!
but Israel is more educated and sophisticated than an Arab stoning each other to death over some offense to Al-La or the Arab going to the Mosque so many times per day, the Jewish in Israel will educate themselves in security or farm technology, educate themselves in war or banking or whatever value forward thinking a little more than Arabs.
The whole of the Middle East is a Giant Lunatic Asylum killing itself, Arabs blitzed a self righteous Israel bombing civilian area of a nation that has overwhelming fire power...they do not expect a response. Are the islamics so kamikaze?
Both of these sides will not tell you they LOVE War only because the Broken Record on Repeat Blasting Endless War justifies the insanity of each other.
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Israeli Jews, for the most part, are NOT democracy -loving liberal westerners.
LMFAO
Yes!
It's so funny how Israel is ethnically cleansing a whole group of people!
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I typically say F--K Them Both!
Liar.
Shall I pull up thread after thread after thread of YOURS where you constantly demonize and denigrate ALL Muslims, not just the Saudi-influenced Wahhabists?
Could you find an equivalent number of your posts demonizing Zionists?
C'mon, JAYNZE. We're all familiar with your posts. Don't try to convince us that you feel otherwise.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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Shall I pull up thread after thread after thread of YOURS where you constantly demonize and denigrate ALL Muslims, not just the Saudi-influenced Wahhabists?
Do put them up if you want because I give zero fucks I wrote what I wrote but...
I never said all, I said some muslims can have a qood quality as individual people
However I am ANTI-Religion when it comes to islam, I have called the culture SHITLAMIC,
the culture stabs writers when they come to NewYork screaming out war cries of Al Lahhu Ackbar as the crazy psychopath islamics have done for thousands of years.
I have compared it to the Aztec death cult of human sacrifice, I have compared it to both Fascism and Communism, I have compared islamics to child abusers. For me jihadi way or islamist way is oppressive and it is a culture of terrorism, I have mentioned they mutilate the genitals of little girls and marry them off as young as six just as mahomet did, I mention they have little boys dress as girl prostitutes the Bacha Bazi
Muhammad used to dress up in women's clothing
He had sex with his dead Aunt
He married a 6 yr old girl who was his favorite wife
Moohamed Raped Animals
You should read the Quran or Koran and see what kind of man Mahomet was
He demonizes himself, he would have visions and suffer its, Moohammad's encounter with "Gabriel" deeply disturbs him, and Muhammed himself wonder if maybe an Angle did not vist him but a Demonic Monster or Djinn, in the islamic texts Moohmamad himself thinks he is perhaps speaking with devils or demon possessed.
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Could you find an equivalent number of your posts demonizing Zionists?
Just go into an of the old PirateNews threads where I say Mossad where helping human trafficker pedophiles like Epstein, you can go into any one of those Who dislikes the Israeli government debates or US Aid for Israelis and Building a Wall for Israel Debates.
I might have also called JEWELSTAITEFAN a Zionist, he btw supports the bombing of the USS Liberty and sounds like an islamic terrorist or a spokes person for Irgun or Etzel a Zionist paramilitary organization or at times he sounds like a NeoCon a dual citizen.
The funny thing about Zionists is you don't have to be a Jew Israeli to be a Zionist, little Bush, Hillary, McCain, Bolton, there is some British leadership also became some of the Biggest 'Zionists' and many of them are not Jewish
But the thing is as crazy and dumb as these religious Zionist Israeli Jews can be, they will never be as stupid as a mohammedan
'Moses' is a story you can respect
Read up on Mahomet and tell me what kind of person the islamics pray to
and all these neighbors and islamic brothers of theirs rich Gulf States in the region don't want to really help them, they will fund a suicide bomber maybe, a guy will auction himself to be blown up and pay for the debts of the family
but in the end all they are are useful pawns to stir Anti-Israeli hatred, they bomb something and Israel sends out the Aircraft to bomb and blitz them back in a never ending cycle of war.
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