"Hobbits" and ALL of Mankind march on Mordor.
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UPDATED: Saturday, May 6, 2023 16:36
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"House Republicans push toward a vote on a newly modified plan to stave off an unprecedented government default, as Sen. John McCain rails against “bizarro” alternative plans by “Tea Party hobbits."
We shall see.
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"
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To gollum, hobbitses were nasty.
McCain, your disguise has been blown.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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"McCain, in an emotional floor speech, ripped Tea Party politicians and activists who are threatening to derail House Speaker John Boehner's debt plan.
His harsh words came after he expressed disappointment with some "foolish" GOPers who are still hoping for a balanced budget amendment as part of any compromise on the debt ceiling.
"To hold out and say we won't agree to raising the debt limit until we pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution, it's unfair, it's bizarre," McCain said.
"And maybe some people who have only been in this body for six or seven months or so really believe that. Others know better."
Good for HIM! That's truth, spoken clearly, and he's 100% right. The neophite Tea Partiers are so damned full of themselves and/or naive that they think they can force the country to do their bidding or they'll bring the roof down on our heads. The right has never gotten such major concessions, yet still it's not enough for them--McCain and Boehner see that. The little tantrum-throwers will learn the truth in time, but we're all gonna pay the price. It's nice to see the old man speak up on the side of truth for once; he used to do it a lot more often.
I'd still like to know how you guys can say the right has "compromised" and the Dems haven't. The right demanded cuts--Democrats agreed. BALANCE would be cuts and revenue; that would be a compromise. But the Republicans (cowardly bowing to the Tea Partiers) are adamant about no tax increases. How is that compromise?
Compromise, for those of you who don't get it, is each side giving a little. What have the Republicans "given", exactly? Obama was even willing to put Medicare and Social Security on the table--you don't get much more compromising from the left; what exactly have Republicans put on the table that represents "compromise"???
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Niki , you have it 100% WRONG
McCain lost the '08 elections, and is now trying to blame those responsible for the monumental ass kicking in 2010 of the Dems that they're messing things up ?
That's funny.
McCain has absolutely ZERO credibility here. His bungling of the '08 election literally gave this country the worst President since Jimmy Carter, and possibly of the modern era.
The GOP HAS been the responsible adults here, they have compromised, and they're the only ones seriously trying to work out any deals.
They've given on raising the debt limit, which many think is simply the wrong thing to do. Boehner's weak 1st try had to be reworked, but still falls short of the more reasonable and needed Cut / Cap and Balance plan.
What the hell have the Dems give , other than vague ideas and empty promises ? They HAVE no plan.
Certainly Obama has nothing to offer. He's literally being shoved off to the kiddie table, while the adults work this thing out.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Just agreeing to raise the debt ceiling at all is "compromise"???? Bullshit.
I repeat: WHAT HAVE THEY COMPROMISED ON? They keep saying they have, but I see absolutely no evidence of it. I don't think you can point to any, which is why your post was about everything BUT where they've "compromised". They haven't. Period.
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What have the Dems compromised ? Raising the debt ceiling is far more then Harry and company are offering.
PERIOD.
And besides, it's the Dems and their reckless spending, their inaction for 2 years, which has put the country in this position. Morally, the Democratic party has nothing to say here. They should be ashamed and embarrassed to even THINK of playing this game. They'll be run out of town come November '12, and they're just trying to save face for now.
Ain't gonna work.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Meanwhile, Boehner has postponed the vote on his own bill, because he knows full well that he doesn't even have the votes in his own House, in his own party, and it would basically end his speakership to have his pet plan get pwned by his own party.
So he's pulled it from the scheduled vote while he tries to wrangle a few more yes votes, while some 60 Senators (including at least 4 Republicans) have already announced that they won't vote for it.
Boehner's bill isn't just dead on arrival - it's dead before it ever hits the floor of the House!
Republicans are trying to play politics with a mundane procedural vote, and it's biting them in the ass.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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The GOP is trying to fix a very serious problem.
Not trying all that hard, it seems, but they're doing something. Far more than the Democrats.
I think the Dems want this country to fail.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
The GOP is trying to fix a very serious problem.
Not trying all that hard, it seems, but they're doing something. Far more than the Democrats.
I think the Dems want this country to fail.
No the GOP, more so the teabaggers, are trying to use the situation to achieve their goals of gutting social programs. If they where at all serious about reducing the deficit they would be including cuts to defense. They would also be willing to compromise on the deals laid out which include 4 to 1 spending cuts to revenue increases. The ratio that Dems agreed to. Now which side is compromising?
Oh, and the Dems know that if social programs are gutted the economy will not only slow down, but will most likely stop. That would make the country fail.
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