FBI loses all evidence in OK City false-flag attack
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The FBI has not found videotapes from the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that are being sought by a Utah lawyer and do not believe another records search is reasonable or will uncover the information, the agency has told a federal judge.
FBI officials are "unaware of the existence or likely location of additional tapes" that would fulfill the Freedom of Information Act request filed by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue, agency attorneys said in court papers filed last week.
Trentadue sued the FBI and the CIA in 2008 to get the videos and contended the FBI's efforts to locate the information have been inadequate. He is looking for surveillance tapes taken the morning of the bombing from exterior cameras on the Murrah building and dashboard camera video from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol's arrest of Timothy McVeigh. McVeigh was convicted of and executed for the bombing.
Trentadue asserts that the videos exist and will expose that others were involved in the domestic terrorist attack that killed 168 people.
But attorneys for the agency said the electronic databases have not turned up the records, nor have manual searches of FBI crime labs, evidence centers or a warehouse in Oklahoma City. A further search of a records cache totaling an estimated 450,000 documents — from just the first 14 days of the investigation — in the warehouse would be "unreasonably burdensome" and could take a single staff person more than 18 months to conduct, court papers said.
The conclusions were included in a court-ordered explanation of the FBI's response to the records request. U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups had ordered the agency to provide a detailed explanation of its records search last month.
The judge will consider the response in deciding whether the FBI complied with federal information laws in Trentadue's case. It was not clear when the judge might rule.
Trentadue said in an email to The Associated Press that the government's explanations don't provide any new information.
"In short, nothing but more of the same institutionalized dishonesty, deception and disrespect for the Constitution," Trentadue wrote.
Trentadue also said the explanation downplayed the purpose of various FBI electronic databases and that a declaration from an FBI official in charge of FOIA responses conflicted with former agents and officers who have provided information in the case.
"The key thing to me is they don't say (the tapes) don't exist," Trentadue said. "I think my job now will be to poke holes in the response and lay out what I think are inaccuracies or misleading statements."
Government attorneys contend they've more than met the requirements of federal law. They said Trentadue has used "shifting arguments, inaccurate assertions and exhibits of questionable value" to support allegations that the bureau has operated in bad faith.
Trentadue's inquiry into the bombing was prompted by the death of his brother, Kenneth Trentadue, at the Oklahoma City Federal Transfer Center in August of that year. He claimed that his brother, a convicted bank robber, was mistaken for a bombing suspect and beaten during an interrogation by officers.
His brother was a close physical match for a bombing suspect and that the evidence he's seeking from the FBI may prove that, Jesse Trentadue said.
Kenneth Trentadue's death was officially considered a suicide, but his body had 41 wounds and bruises that his brother believes were the result of a beating. A judge awarded his family $1.1 million in damages for extreme emotional distress in the government's handling of the death.
The CIA portion of Trentadue's case, which also included requests for possible involvement of foreign nationals in the bombing, was dismissed by Waddoups in March 2010.
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Yanno, instead of asking a pack of assholes with no reason to comply with FOIA and every reason not to...
He'd do better asking various data monkeys and signal pirates who grab stuff like that to make sure it doesn't disappear down the memory hole.
I'm pretty damn sure Rivero might have em, or at least excerpts and copies, and he's rational enough to ask, whereas Jones wouldn't admit it even if he did unless it bought him airtime or something, goddamn media whore.
I mean, why ask the very shitheads TRYING to bury them for copies, when the muckrakers are more likely to cooperate, AND getting copies from them would prove out that either the alphabet boys do have em and lied about it, or destroyed em and lied about that.
Heaven knows they've lied about every other aspect of this.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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I can't decide if the reason they built that "superintelligence" center to monitor electronic signals out here is because Utahans are compliant or if they see us as a potential problem group.
In any case, it makes me a little proud to see someone from around here demanding government service, that they do their job and don't lose important footage for whatever reasons.
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Why is it that everything from OK City to 9/11 is a " false flag " ? Where's any of that evidence ?
And who are the so called 'winners' of these orchestrated events ?
All these conspiracy nut case ideas, never really seem to pan out - in the least.
What was the big pay off for the OK city bombing ?
What of 9/11 ? How'd that end up for Bush ? Where's the BIG pay off, that other wise would not have been, were it not for these events ?
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Why do you ask questions that you already know how people are going to answer?
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And who are the so called 'winners' of these orchestrated events ?
The “War On Terror” Is A $6 Trillion Racket, Exceeding The Total Cost Of World War II
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25531
Strategic Threat Assessment Matrix concluded that 7/7 was an inside job on BBC TV
http://www.infowars.com/police-intelligence-analyst-fired-for-blowing-
whistle-on-false-flag-terror/
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Why do you ask questions that you already know how people are going to answer?
No one has answered, yet. PN's clownish replies don't count, as he's not a real person.Not anyone who matters.
I'm asking those who THINK, to logically elaborate and stop yammering on about what Bush knew, and use their brains. For once.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Okay... Why would any one want to answer what is obvious bait?
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Okay... Why would any one want to answer what is obvious bait?
The point is, there IS no end game. The risk to those who may committed these acts far out weighs the reward. Money is made when ever there's a catastrophic even, whether it's a tsunami or a war. " SOMEONE " is going to do the heavy lifting, and they're going to have to be paid for it. So there's no evidence, what so ever, that 9/11 was an 'inside job', any more than there's evidence that the 9.0 quake in Japan was rigged by someone as well.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Well, logically speaking, one weak point in an argument does not invalidate an entire argument, and neither does a logical argument count as evidence for or against anything.
Some of us happen to take a pretty dim view of the human race, and think that there are some people out there who feel whether they can get away with murder or not is just a game to them.
Also, there's a difference between speculation on the circumstantial, and something that is physically impossible.
But, no, you're right in that Bush probably didn't know anything.
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