Why not now fight for a animated firefly show?

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ADS

Saturday, February 7, 2009 3:36 PM

I only just arrived here so I don't know if this topic has already been broached but as far as I can see the best and only possibly way firefly will be continued on screen would be through an animated show. Fair enough it would never be the same as the original show but after thinking about it I think it could still be very good if it was done right.

From what I see there a several pros for making it animated. They will never get the actors back together to make a show or movie again, lets face facts. But in an animated show they don't need to. Replacing an actors voice is allot easier then replacing an actual actor and although the replacements will never sound perfect you would learn to accept them if it means you get to expierience the story go on and get to hear new Jayne Cobb one liners. They would still look like the old characters as well just not as um, real.

Of course several things would need to be done to make it acceptable. Firstly the tone would have to remain the same. No making it goofier or lessening the adult references just because it's now a cartoon. The story IMO would also be carried on from the TV episodes and completely ignore the movies existence. As far as I see the movie is a concelation prize for losing the series. Better than nothing but if we are going to keep the story going as it should have been then having a conceleation as part of it wouldn't be neccesary. Lastly and most importantly, if Joss directed this project I would never miss an episode. But if doing a cartoon is something he can't or dosn't want to do then if he can at least give an overview of the crews future and let other suitably talented writers who know Joss's style fill in the blanks then this might be acceptable also.

I would do anything to see this show go on in a respectable fashion and this is really the only way I can see it happening. It would't be nearly as expensive as making a regular show so if enough fans expressed a desire to see it then I can't see why they wouldn't or couldn't give us what we want.

At the end of the day though it doesn't really matter. As long as religion is right and heaven exists then god has seasons one to seven boxed sets and when I die me and him are going to watch them together.

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, February 7, 2009 3:57 PM

$?

The snag is that there isn't enough money for firefly. It should probably revert to text for the moment. Animated would work, but I don't want to see it as some South Park level of animation. It would have to kick ass. I think that's the point of Firefly, to kick ass. We'll leave the taking names part to the alliance :)

ADS

Saturday, February 7, 2009 4:26 PM

Yeah cash is the biggest issue(or only issue for that matter) but the cash could easily be there for an animated series if enough people got behind it.

There are allot of firefly fans, but maybe not enough to encourage a network to spend millions making a new show or movie. From what I know about how tv works, networks need a certain amout of viewers to keep advertisers happy so that the advertises will pay enough money so that the shows expenses are covered and the network makes a profit. Firefly fans tried there hardest to convince them that we can reach this qouta but we didn't pull it off.

But if every fan got behind an animated series it would be a different story. The expenses are suddenly much lower so the networks need less money from advertises to cover expenses. If the advertises don't have to pay as much then they are not expecting as many viewers for what they are paying for. And if they don't need as many viewers then maybe this number is closer to the amount of firefly fans that will be watching it if it is made animated.

Also a a secondary consideration, even if firefly's fans and desire for the show somehow multiplied like crazy overnight, getting the aging actors back together would be very difficult. Irrelivent if it's animated.

Of course it would have to kick ass! What I am proposing is that the show is as close to the original as possible, just animated. Think about what they could do also in terms of space combat or in regards to River kicking ass. You can do allot with animation and do it allot cheaper then if you had to pull it off normally.(EDIT: I thin you meant the animation quality, sorry :] Yeah south park style obviously would not be appropriate but at the same time it doesn't have to be awsome 3d animation either. As technology gets better it get's easier and easier to make cool animations and for a show as popular as firefly is then getting enough funding to make it cool shouldn't be to hard...........assuming the fans got behind such an idea.)

What matters to me more than the actors or the format is the story and the way it is told. Text can tell a story and do it well, I am an avid reader, but firefly was born in my mind and on the screen and watching the characters as they evolve(and kick ass) is important to me now. Regardless, text would only be alright to me if it came from Joss. There a many talented authors out there who do Firefly justice but unless you pick a favorite and decide his/hers is the version you are going to bank on and make that cannon then whats the point. I like my stories to have a definitive beggining, middle and end.

PARTICIPANT

Saturday, February 7, 2009 10:38 PM

Joss prefers Dollhouse, he's not really into Firefly anymore and gets a big boner for Eliza Dushuku

ADS

Sunday, February 8, 2009 11:30 AM

Yeah I can understand that, I get a boner from her too. Maybe we can just annoy him enough or something so he can sell off some ideas to someone who still does give a crap :)

SCHISM

Monday, February 9, 2009 4:36 AM

In the early 90's it seemed the fashion to take every half-decent popular comic series and turn it into an animated series.

They would kid-ify serious and mature themes, degrading them into an embarassing mass of animated nonsense.

I've seen too many good properties brutilized by animation, starting with TMNT. A humourous but grim and violent independant comic turned into an immature farce.

I'd rather see Firefly die than be turned into an animated show.

The only exception to the rule here is Batman TAS, circa 1992. The majority of the episodes in the first season or two somehow managed to appeal to children AND adults without losing any integrity.

Except for the episodes with Robin.

Let's see...what cute and loveable alien 'mascot' would they create to humourously menace the crew?

ANONYMOUS1

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 4:26 AM

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Originally posted by Ads:
They will never get the actors back together to make a show or movie again, lets face facts.

Facts.

Joss Whedon and the actors love Firefly/Serenity. See commentary on the Collector's Edition etc. And they love working together.

Joss and the actors want to do more Serenity. See various comments by them at conventions and in interviews.

The actors are not too old etc. See Summer in Terminator on Friday the 13th on Fox. 8/7 c

Nathan and Adam and most of the other actors have done animated film work.

Don't count Joss and the actors out. They are getting more and more popular every day.

The more people see of our Big Darn Heroes work (and that includes Joss) the more they want to see of our Big Darn Heroes work and that leads them back to Firefly/Serenity.

And don't worry about them being too busy. If Steven Speilberg, George Lucas and Harrison Ford can get together to make Indiana Jones whatever...so can Joss and the crew.

Look at what Joss did with Dr. Horrible. Funded it himself. Called up actors. Filmed it in a week. http://drhorrible.com

Have you read the Serenity comic books? I think they'd be pretty cool animated with the actors reading/acting the words.

SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:04 AM

Why not an animated series? Just look at the bomb that was the Star Trek animated series just after the TOS got cancelled (even for its day). And that had fans, etc, etc, etc, behind it. Sorry, but just because it's "our" series doesn't make it any different. This is just a bad idea.

FF had a certain air to it. That's something that the comics certainly didn't convey and the movie barely came close to what FF was. In other words, lets just let the thing die in peace. Flogging a dead horse just to something is hardly the way to honour such a great show.

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ADS

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 10:17 AM

Okay fair enough, I could be wrong. I suppose that anything is possible and that there might be a chance that the show can start again with the actors, but every day that go's by this is becoming less and less likely. And allot of days have gone by.

Don't get me wrong, I would love it if the show got resurected normally. In fact, I would probably creme my pants. But I also gave up on hoping for this to happen a while ago because there just isn't enough to justify me getting my hopes up and believing it could still happen. It is just to painful. It might be possible, but I think it is more likely that fans could successfully push for an animated show as opposed to the normal one.

You might be right schism. It might stink badly. But wouldn't you like it if someone made it so you can decide that it stinks badly instead of judging it based on what might happen? You never know, it might be so kick ass that you change your mind.

I would hate for such a show to be made and then it sucks. Firefly deserves better than that. But at the same time I would love it if they made it and it was awsome. It is a gamble but not really a bad one. Worst case sceinario it sucks and I just don't watch it. Best case sceinario it rocks and I am as devouted to watching it as I was the original. Nothing that ever happens could ever damage the reputation of the original show anyway, it is just that good. And having that sort of attitude would be like if you didn't want the movie serenity being made just because it was not in episodic format and thus might not be as good as the show(which it wasn't but it was still good).

I will be forever gratefull that the movie serenity was made and at least gave the story some sort of closure but when it comes down to it I would much rather they have made a series exactly the same as Firefly, just animated. The main reason people I have talked to dont like this idea is because it doesnt use the original actors, but I don't understand it. I would even go as far as prefering animated over the movie even if it didn't use the same actors. I love the actors, they made the show awsome. But I love the dialog,story and the way it was told even more. I am a firefly fan, not a firefly groupie.

I only recently found out about the comic book but I havn't read them yet. They might be the last new firefly I ever get to expierience so I am going to save them. I would prefer to watch it on my tv, but I will take it whatever way I can get it.

SCHISM

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:39 PM

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You might be right schism. It might stink badly. But wouldn't you like it if someone made it so you can decide that it stinks badly instead of judging it based on what might happen? You never know, it might be so kick ass that you change your mind.
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Respecting your opinion, I have to add that it might stink so badly that it gives Firefly/Serenity a bad name to the unenlightened, just as the TMNT made all Mirage-Comic-TMNT fans look childish and lame back in the day.

Then there will REALLY be no salvaging a show, if it becomes synonymous with a lame kids show, and being proud of one's fandom will by a little more synonymous with an adult saying they love Dora the Explorer for its "hidden depths".

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