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Israel and the Palestinians

POSTED BY: fredgiblet
UPDATED: Monday, May 28, 2007 22:16
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Friday, May 25, 2007 11:38 PM

Jerusalem's the really tricky bit. Can't see any peace over there any time soon purely because of that.



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Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:25 AM

Yeah, here's my thought since Jerusalem is holy to the Muslims and the Jews (and the Christians if you want to split them from the Jews) why not just give it over to international control, call it completely neutral and not let Israel OR the Palestinians have it? That would remove it from the Israel-Palestine equation, since for either one to have it they would have to invade and face the fury of a sternly worded letter from the U.N.

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Saturday, May 26, 2007 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Jerusalem's the really tricky bit. Can't see any peace over there any time soon purely because of that.



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Can you imagine how much it must hack the Israelis off to have to look at the al-Aksa Mosque up there on the Temple Mount? *shudder*

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Saturday, May 26, 2007 1:03 AM

I can't remember which book, but Tom Clancy suggested just that - make Jerusalem an international city, chock full of uniformed and armed UN soldiers/guards, where any religious leader gets the utmost respect. Interesting idea.

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Saturday, May 26, 2007 1:23 AM

This has already been tried. A long time ago. Look up the 1947 UN Partition Plan, UNGA Resolution 181, which resulted in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.



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Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:55 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
This has already been tried. A long time ago. Look up the 1947 UN Partition Plan, UNGA Resolution 181, which resulted in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.



Thanx, Finn. I was gonna add that to the thread, but I didn't remember the specifics of when and how...

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Saturday, May 26, 2007 4:22 PM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Thanx, Finn. I was gonna add that to the thread, but I didn't remember the specifics of when and how...

And variations on it were tried even before that. Before the Palestinian Mandate was handed over to the UN, the British controlled it and under the Peel Commission Partition Plan of 1937, Jerusalem was a strictly British controlled city, with Arabs and Jews granted equal privileges.



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Saturday, May 26, 2007 5:35 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Thanx, Finn. I was gonna add that to the thread, but I didn't remember the specifics of when and how...

And variations on it were tried even before that. Before the Palestinian Mandate was handed over to the UN, the British controlled it and under the Peel Commission Partition Plan of 1937, Jerusalem was a strictly British controlled city, with Arabs and Jews granted equal privileges.



Was there something that happened that made them abandon it?

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Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:48 AM

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Originally posted by fredgiblet:


Was there something that happened that made them abandon it?


There was this difficulty that started in Sept of 1939. Kept the Brits pre-occupied for several years.
Things were just settling down when the '47 proposal and '48 war broke out.

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