U.S. war hero versus UK Navy capitulators
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UPDATED: Sunday, April 8, 2007 11:34
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Medal of Honor recipient Army Colonel Jack Jacobs (Ret.) expresses his disgust at the capitulation of the British Navy and Marine personnel who were kidnapped by Iran.
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I don't know what to say, except that I'm glad all sailors are home, safe and that it didn't take 444 days.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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This man does not represent us.
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Originally posted by Causal:
This man does not represent us.
He never claimed to, he's just stating his opinion.
Calling the Brit Marine a 'meathead' on national t.v. might have been a bit much.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Perhaps I should have said "me." I just don't like the US versus UK thing that seems to have popped up recently.
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Originally posted by Causal:
Perhaps I should have said "me." I just don't like the US versus UK thing that seems to have popped up recently.
I don't think there IS a U.S. v UK issue here. From what I understand, there are many British folks who feel the same way as the retired Col. feels. I'm sure many don't take too kindly to seeing their men and women laughing it up w/ their captors either. There's just not much good that came from this if you're a fan of the British Navy.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Whatever ya wanta say, the Brits came out ahead on this one.
Some of their sailors spent 2 weeks in jail-- nothin' much worse than that. -- no torture, no executions, no trial. a little psychological pressure- less than the USA has regularly used on Arabs.
A few meaningless, coerced " confessions". A promise not to tresspass in Iranian waters in the future, whether they did this time or not.
And they didn't hafta invade anyplace, bomb anybody, or kill lots of folk.
Now, that ain't to say that the Iranians were " in the right ". They weren't. Shouldn'ta grabbed them as hostages in the first place. And the Brits didn't punish the bad guys. So what?
If the Iranians do it again, that will mean something. IF. If the Brits let happen a second time, that will mean something. IF. If not neither, then this was a meaningless sideshow.
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What about the little pink bags they got as take home gifts from the Iranians...hilarious. Our troops, like senator John McCain, spent years being tortured. They had bamboo stuck under there finger nails then lit on fire, shoulders broken, and all kinds of hellish things. They never broke. These sailors from the UK are a disgrace. Laughing and apologizing in front of propaganda cameras....WOW.
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Actually, if you talk with people who've been prisoners of war and have been subjected to that kind of torture, they all "break." At a certain point, you will say whatever you think you have to to get the pain to stop. That's what makes turture such a dicey way of extracting information: one can never tell if they're telling the truth or just saying what they think the torturere wants to hear.
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Originally posted by kaneman:
They never broke.
I think it's interesting that you mention McCain, because he freely admits that he did exactly that. As Causal said everyone breaks eventually.
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