Is a hawk evil when it kills a rabbit?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 23:32
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I've been wondering, what's wrong with taking what you want, as long as you don't end up in jail?
Isn't the Bush Administration doing what it can do? If you find a twenty dollar bill on the street, don't you take it? We breed and kill innocent animals for tasty meals, don't we. This is a dog-eat-dog world, and if it can be taken, you do, right? So what if people die in wars, they're gonna die someday anyway, right? Who are we to play God and say the Bush Administration shouldn't be doing...ANYTHING??
If any of us were presidents, how do you know we wouldn't be doing exactly what Cheney suggested we do, too?
Christ would be the first one to say forgive Bush!
Bush's Advocate Chrisisall
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Been reading the papers again, Chris?
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Also, for the record: I'm not a huge fan of W. myself, but this whole "Bush is the anti-Christ" thing is just so ridiculous.
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A hawk kills just what it needs to survive. Evil is killing because one gains pleasure out of it, but don't need too in order to survive. If a lion kills a gazelle in order to feed it self and it's pride that is not evil, it is the order to things.
If a lion caught a gazelle and proceeded to torture it and play with it (riping limbs off, that sort of thing) gaining pleasure from the act but with no other tangible gain, and then did not eat the carcass then that is evil.
Of course animals don't really indulge in this kind of behaviour, people do.
Greed is where one takes vastly more than is required to survive. We are all guilty of this, do you need that stereo or that computer to survive? But is it evil? I'd say only if it directly adversly effects a great deal of life, for one's own material gain.
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If any of us were presidents, how do you know we wouldn't be doing exactly what Cheney suggested we do, too?
Depends I suspect on how you view the actions of the GWB. Is a person evil if they decide it would be fun to shoot another to death? Is a soldier evil for doing the same thing (shooting to death, not doing it for fun)? Are soldiers of Nazi Germany, the Soviet republic or any countless other regimes evil for carrying out acts, if the alternative for them is death? Would you have acted differently? Does this mean we should not punish or condemn these things if they are just Human nature?
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Quote:I never said he was the anti-Christ, just sayin' his administration is up to no good as far as being nice guys goes. My question is do they have to be nice guys in a corrupt world? Why not partake of the benefits of corruption, if not they, someone will. Wars will be fought, with or without Bush, should we not excuse anything he does as just something someone will do? So he gives his pals jobs, and his other pals contracts. So what? Nobody's arrested him, so it can't be too wrong. Why expect him to be a hero?
Originally posted by Causal:
Also, for the record: I'm not a huge fan of W. myself, but this whole "Bush is the anti-Christ" thing is just so ridiculous.
Damien Chrisisall
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Quote:Cats 'torture' mice before killing them.
Originally posted by citizen:
If a lion caught a gazelle and proceeded to torture it and play with it (riping limbs off, that sort of thing) gaining pleasure from the act but with no other tangible gain, and then did not eat the carcass then that is evil.
But then I do believe cats are evil...
Unless it's just their DNA in a super-soldier Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Cats 'torture' mice before killing them.
But then I do believe cats are evil...
Cats are cute. Torture is fun. Didn't you see 'War Stories', and how much fun Niska had? A great time had by all...
To the topic at hand, politicians in America are elected by the people (in theory, at least), and are done so to serve the people, not themselves. I know there are a whole bunch of complications to this, but that's the basic principle of this idea called democracy.
Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Cats 'torture' mice before killing them.
Originally posted by citizen:
If a lion caught a gazelle and proceeded to torture it and play with it (riping limbs off, that sort of thing) gaining pleasure from the act but with no other tangible gain, and then did not eat the carcass then that is evil.
But then I do believe cats are evil...
Unless it's just their DNA in a super-soldier Chrisisall
House cats are a special case.
I don't like house cats, I kicked my mothers cat off her lap before I was even born...
Maybe some Human traits have rubbed off on the domesticated kind? Tho they play with mice/birds as part of a self training for hunting, I'm not sure they lob the heads of and stick them on the side of their bed...
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And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Quote:In the same way that a certain number of rats is tolerated on a large cargo vessle, isn't it reasonable to expect a certain amount of 'self serving' to be done while having all that power and influence? Wouldn't it be super-human to avoid playing the game, a little (or even a lot)?
Originally posted by Khyron:
To the topic at hand, politicians in America are elected by the people (in theory, at least), and are done so to serve the people, not themselves.
Chrisisall (Boy, this is hard...)
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Quote:More we have in common
Originally posted by citizen:
I don't like house cats, I kicked my mothers cat off her lap before I was even born...

No Cat Fancy Chrisisall
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