Relationship development we would like to see
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UPDATED: Saturday, October 21, 2006 15:15
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Part of what I love about Firefly is the interactions between the characters. I love the silent subtext of Mal/Inara, want to slap Jayne as he pesters Simon, and love the deep affection of Wash/Zoe. I even like a lot of the "minor" interactions... like Simon's discussions with Inara, or Wash and Kaylee chatting cheerfully about what Saffron did to their console, or the River and Book conversations.
Unfortunately, due to the criminally short run that our beloved show had, there were a lot of interactions and relationships that we never really got to see. Some characters had very little in the way of conversations, something I hope would have been addressed later in the series. As a result, in some cases we really don't know what Person A felt about Person B.
Which characters did you want to see interact more? What relationships, friendly or non, would you have enjoyed seeing develop over the course of the series?
Me, I really REALLY wanted to see more interaction between Wash and Simon, or just Wash and the Tams in general. We never REALLY get a sense of what they think of each other, though we do see that Wash continually defends Simon and River when the big discussions come up. Would his good nature have led to him actually forging a bond with them, or not? I personally would have LOVED to see some of the conversations Simon and Wash could have had; Simon probably wouldn't know what to make of Wash's bizarre humor, but I can see him being less upset by it than by Mal or Jayne's rather sadistic streak.
On a similar note, I would have liked more Zoe/Tam interaction. I STILL don't know what she thought of them (and after the movie, I can only imagine another layer being added). More conversations with her and Simon would have been awesome (River too, but she's a bit whimsical in the brainpan and as such a conversation might not get anyone anywhere 
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How about you guys? Anyone on the Simon/Wash Friendship bandwagon? Or are there any other relationships you would like to see more of?
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Hmm, no one has friendships they wanted to see developed further?
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I'm trying to think of one of the friendships that I wouldn't have like to see further developed. Drawing a complete blank on that one...
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I agree on the Wash/Simon friendship thing. I also wanna see Wash interacting with River. Personally, I would love it if Wash had a conversation with her and was frightened by how much of what she said not only made perfect sence...but actully happened.
As for Zoe...well...there's ONE priceless River/Zoe interaction that I'm certian we all remember... "River Honey, he's putting the hair away now." But other then that...It would be nice to see how that plays out. Especially now with, as mentioned, the extra layer.
Zoe and Simon I just plain and simple have issues immagening interacting. I always see their relationship as pure doctor/patiant. Maybe this is because the one instance I always think of in the case of Tams interacting with Washburnes has Zoe unconcious. (Out of Gas)
Meantime, I would ADORE some more Jayne and Zoe interaction.
Zoe and Inara would be interesting too...the two of them talking about Mal. Now there's a conversation I would not only pay to see...but steal money so I could afford to pay to see.
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Originally posted by LadyKnight:
I agree on the Wash/Simon friendship thing. I also wanna see Wash interacting with River. Personally, I would love it if Wash had a conversation with her and was frightened by how much of what she said not only made perfect sence...but actully happened.
As for Zoe...well...there's ONE priceless River/Zoe interaction that I'm certian we all remember... "River Honey, he's putting the hair away now." But other then that...It would be nice to see how that plays out. Especially now with, as mentioned, the extra layer.
Zoe and Simon I just plain and simple have issues immagening interacting. I always see their relationship as pure doctor/patiant. Maybe this is because the one instance I always think of in the case of Tams interacting with Washburnes has Zoe unconcious. (Out of Gas)
Meantime, I would ADORE some more Jayne and Zoe interaction.
Zoe and Inara would be interesting too...the two of them talking about Mal. Now there's a conversation I would not only pay to see...but steal money so I could afford to pay to see.
Oh yes, the discussion about Book's hair was lovely. And it showed a somewhat maternal side of Zoe... I wonder if more interaction would develop that feeling? I just watched Objects in Space again for the second time and was struck by how much Zoe defended River, despite them not having much interaction besides... the hair.
I see your point on the Zoe and Simon thing. OiS had another moment between them when she's extracting the bullet from him; again, as you said, a doctor/patient relationship but there was a bit of good potential and banter in there ("Right, aaaand I'm going to pass out now, but you're doing great...") I think they could have at least a friendly professional relationship.
Zoe/Jayne... oh god, those two are funny. Yes, more of them, please, and more Zoe/Inara. I also wouldn't mind a bit more Simon/Inara as well. And now that I think about it... I'd like more actual conversations between Jayne and River, usually their interactions are Jayne complaining about her to other people while she's standing there.
Hell, just more interaction with the entire crew with the rest of the crew, please. XD And how about more interactions with guest cast? Jayne and YoSaffBridg, anyone?
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Obviously with Book passing, I'll never get my wish, but I was really interested in his and Jayne's relationship. They seemed to really be buddies, and it seemed to hit Jayne pretty hard when Book died. I say this, becasue Jayne quoted book right before they "went into battle".
I'd also noticed a nice bond between Inara and Simon. It seems they reminded each other of their past lives. They got along so well. thios was shown in the "it was my b-day " talk in OOG.
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Originally posted by Starrbaby:
Obviously with Book passing, I'll never get my wish, but I was really interested in his and Jayne's relationship. They seemed to really be buddies, and it seemed to hit Jayne pretty hard when Book died. I say this, becasue Jayne quoted book right before they "went into battle".
Definately agree there. I think it added an interesting layer to both characters, seeing how they interacted. I always liked how Jayne might be more complicated than he lets on. Also liked how it was never really focused on, you just sort of saw them together in passing. They really are a rather unlikely pair at first glance.
And River and Jayne, or Simon and Jayne could be interesting, too. An episode where he's stuck somewhere with one or the other and they're forced to actual "deal" with each other could be fun.
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All the past recommendations I agree with, but here's my two cents.
I would have liked to have seen some more flashback interactions with Simon and River with their parents. To me, those two characters (and if you actually watch the ep, they don't even mention their names) are an untapped gold mine of material.
I dunno. I always thought YCGHA was my vain attempt at legitmizing them and making them more complex than the parents=bad equation you see all the time in fanfics, which I think is just lazy.
Hey starrbaby. How are your two little ones doing?
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Hey starrbaby. How are your two little ones doing?
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hey there RR! Doing great. Don't get on here very often . . .really busy, as you might guess.
How are things on your side of the fence?
I must agree w/ you wanting to see more interaction with the Tams. I still haven't decided if Mom and Dad Tam were evil or just ignorant.
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I would say ignorant. I actually really liked the interaction of Daddy Tam with the two kids, he seemed like a really nice and supportive father. I remember being somewhat surprised that he and Mama Tam didn't pay attention to Simon's warnings, but I believe that it was more due to ignorance and misplaced faith in the government (ie they'd never do THAT) than actual evil.
Makes you wonder... what WOULD have happened had Simon and River returned to see their parents, and they had seen first hand how broken poor River was? I couldn't imagine they could deny what happened to her anymore... what would they do?
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