White House: Everything’s Fine in Iraq as Ramadi Falls

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JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:15 AM

"A candy-colored clown they call Obama
Tiptoes to my room every night
Just to sprinkle star dust and to whisper
"Go to sleep, everything is alright" ...

THGRRI

Thursday, May 21, 2015 6:21 AM

Of course none of this will make a difference to the ideologues but here it is anyway.

"George W. Bush's CIA Briefer: Bush and Cheney Falsely Presented WMD Intelligence to Public

Appearing on MSNBC's Hardball on Tuesday night, Morell made it clear: The Bush-Cheney administration publicly misrepresented the intelligence related to Iraq's supposed WMD program and Saddam's alleged links to Al Qaeda.

And there's more. Referring to the claims made by Bush, Cheney, and other administration officials that Saddam was in league with Al Qaeda, Morell noted, "What they were saying about the link between Iraq and Al Qaeda publicly was not what the intelligence community" had concluded. He added, "I think they were trying to make a stronger case for the war." That is, stronger than the truth would allow.

Morell's remarks support the basic charge: Bush and Cheney were not misled by flawed intelligence; they used the flawed intelligence to mislead."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/michael-morell-bush-cheney
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SIGNYM

Friday, May 22, 2015 7:47 PM

Yep, I think we should lay this steaming pile of shit right where it belongs: At the feet of GW Bush and Cheney, who started this whole clusterfuck. They pushed Humpty-Dumpty off the wall, and ain't nobody gonna make that right in the foreseeable future. Not Obama, not Jeb Bush, not nobody.

This is a case where "but Bush" is an entirely appropriate response. Bush made decisions, and there were consequences that we feel to this day. Much as the reichwing likes to forget that there is such as thing as history. So blame Bush for what Bush should be blamed for (Iraq, Afghanistan, 9-11, "Patriot" Act, starting mass surveillance across the USA, torture, "black" prison sites, 2008, bank bailouts, etc). Obama has plenty of his own decisions to answer for.

Furthermore, I'm surprised at the continued lack of curiosity over the continuing "failures" of the USA's Global War on Terror (GWOT) which has been prosecuted over the terms of the last two Presidents- the reason and excuse for all manner of Constitutional violations and incursions everywhere in the world.

Afghanistan.

Iraq.

Libya.

Syria.

Sudan/ South Sudan.

Yemen.

Does anyone see a trend in ALL of our "interventions", no matter WHO was President? Please give this some real thought for a moment: What has been the outcome of USA interventions in each nation?

Peace?

Stability?

Reduction of terrorist/ radical Islamist activity?

And why not?

Seriously. What is the explanation for these results? It's not a Republican v Democrat thing.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

SIGNYM

Friday, May 22, 2015 7:52 PM

If I were Obama, I would completely walk away from past policies. Leave Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria etc to their fate.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns. But American Presidents keep trying, over and over and over again.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, May 23, 2015 3:52 AM

While the world sits by and does nothing to stop the expansion of unspeakable barbarity being committed by ISIS today, how nice for the libtards that they can still reach deep into their own asses and pull out their old Blame Bush Card. It has no expiration date.

THGRRI

Saturday, May 23, 2015 4:15 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
While the world sits by and does nothing to stop the expansion of unspeakable barbarity being committed by ISIS today, how nice for the libtards that they can still reach deep into their own asses and pull out their old Blame Bush Card. It has no expiration date.

That's too funny, but I expected no less from the Benghazi, Benghazi people. First you have to own the fact that the conservatives(Republicans) created all this bullshit including ISIS, then we can move on. Save your breath about Obama letting Iraq fall. Iraq let Iraq fall because of secularism. Since Republicans won't raise taxes to pay for leaving our troops in Iraq to keep Shia and Sunni separated, screaming foul because we left is bull.

Going into Iraq was the biggest blunder of them all. And lets not forget Bush led us into the worst recession since the depression at the same time. All of which you made and continue to make excuses for.

JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, May 23, 2015 5:00 AM

^ See idiot troll using his shit-stained Blame Bush Card.

THGRRI

Saturday, May 23, 2015 5:57 AM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
^ See idiot troll using his shit-stained Blame Bush Card.

Funny a troll accusing someone of being a troll. I have watched you do nothing but throw insults in the real world discussions thread since before I joined this site. I have never once seen you and some others who post in this thread, join in a discussion about Firefly in the discussion threads above this one. I have never seen you carry on a civil conversation in chat. As a matter of fact, I have witnessed nothing but contempt for others from you. At least Rappy shows some civility when not engulfed in the bullshit he spews here. At least we know from what he posts elsewhere he is a Firefly fan.

Crow all you want. You can't change what the facts show. You are lost in your world of hate for others in this discussion thread. I have no idea why you and some others even visit this Firefly site other than to bitch and attack others. Did you even watch the movie or show or are we just the misfortunate ones who got stuck with you after you stumbled onto this site while trolling?

AURAPTOR

Saturday, May 23, 2015 6:36 PM

George Tenent - WMD case in Iraq a " slam dunk ".

Bush should never have trusted his CIA Director.

THGRRI

Saturday, May 23, 2015 7:27 PM

George Tenet: At the center of the storm

Former CIA Director Breaks His Silence

"The hardest part of all of this has just been listening to this for almost three years. Listening to the vice president go on 'Meet The Press' on the fifth year of 9/11, and say, 'Well, George Tenet said, slam dunk.' As if he needed me to say slam dunk to go to war with Iraq," Tenet tells Pelley. "And they never let it go. I mean, I became campaign talk. I was a talking point. You know, 'Look at what the idiot told us, and we decided to go to war.' Well, let's not be so disingenuous. Let's stand up. This is why we did it. This is why, this is how we did it. And let's tell, let's everybody tell the truth."

"He said to me, 'Iraq has to pay a price for what happened yesterday, they bear responsibility.' It's September the 12th. I've got the manifest with me that tell me al Qaeda did this. Nothing in my head that says there is any Iraqi involvement in this in any way shape or form and I remember thinking to myself, as I'm about to go brief the president, 'What the hell is he talking about?'" Tenet remembers.

"You said Iraq made no sense to you in that moment. Does it make any sense to you today?" Pelley asks.

"In terms of complicity with 9/11, absolutely none," Tenet says. "It never made any sense. We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America. Period."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-tenet-at-the-center-of-the-storm/

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