American Sniper
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Quote:But it did have commercial success. At #17 for an R rated movie, American Sniper did well at the boxoffice, just behind Pretty Woman and just ahead of Saturday Night Fever, two famous oldies movies from a different century.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
. . . outside forces looked to ruin the commercial success of the movie. Politics aside, it told it's story.
16 Pretty Woman $350,064,300 1990
17 American Sniper $347,920,700 2014
18 Saturday Night Fever $337,019,300 1977
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic/mpaa.htm?page=R&adju
st_yr=2015&p=.htm
Eventually American Sniper will be edited so that it can play on late night TV, same as R rated #15 Rambo: First Blood Part II and #19 Fatal Attraction. Then everybody will see this movie.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Can you imagine how bad American Sniper would have been if Spielberg directed, as originally scheduled?
It was released on December 25. 4 months later, still playing in my local cinema, and I now see ads for purchasing it.
Speilberg spoiled A.I. for me. Imagine how good it would have been with Kubrick at the helm. A.I. lost it's way about half way through the film. HJO was brilliant, as was Jude Law, but ultimately the script failed them and so we had E.T. Revisited at the end.
Sniper is a good film and had it's moments, but, to me, outside forces looked to ruin the commercial success of the movie. Politics aside, it told it's story.
SGG
Editing would have taken years. Imagine the expense of digitally removing all those GUNS and replacing them with flashlights or joints or whatever.
Everybody remember when network TV edited Showgirls for non-R rated viewing?
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Spielberg didn't pull any punches making Jaws, Schindler's List, and Saving Private Ryan. He's the greatest movie maker of the last half century.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Spielberg didn't pull any punches making Jaws, Schindler's List, and Saving Private Ryan. He's the greatest movie maker of the last half century.
Don't forget the one I think is his best, Empire of the Sun.
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There are some movies that don't translate well to the TV screen. Showgirls..........really!?
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Can you imagine how bad American Sniper would have been if Spielberg directed, as originally scheduled?
It was released on December 25. 4 months later, still playing in my local cinema, and I now see ads for purchasing it.
Speilberg spoiled A.I. for me. Imagine how good it would have been with Kubrick at the helm. A.I. lost it's way about half way through the film. HJO was brilliant, as was Jude Law, but ultimately the script failed them and so we had E.T. Revisited at the end.
Sniper is a good film and had it's moments, but, to me, outside forces looked to ruin the commercial success of the movie. Politics aside, it told it's story.
SGG
Editing would have taken years. Imagine the expense of digitally removing all those GUNS and replacing them with flashlights or joints or whatever.
Everybody remember when network TV edited Showgirls for non-R rated viewing?
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My favorite out of those 3 is Schindler's List, with SPR a close second.
SGG
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Spielberg didn't pull any punches making Jaws, Schindler's List, and Saving Private Ryan. He's the greatest movie maker of the last half century.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
As for your statement regarding the Lefty leaning Hollywood industry, now I get it.
But, I have to ask, why do you think they allow Eastwood to make his films?
Eastwood makes them money, so they can spend the money on garbage libtard fliks. Eastwood learned early on how to turn around a film quickly, reducing the fiscal exposure to minimums. Eastwood's time from final wrap to film-in-the-can and ready for distribution is the shortest in the industry - he sets the standard, and this makes the bankers and the studio heads happy. The unfortunate circumstances of "Waterworld" would never have happened under his watch.
In the event some readers did not understand this, or did not believe this, films currently in cinema provide an example.
Eastwood directed American Sniper, filming started on Mar 31, 2014 and was still filming as of June 3. It was released on Christmas Day 2014.
The star Bradley Cooper was also in a film called Aloha, just released this past week in cinema. It was filmed beginning September 26, 2013 and still filming in mid-December 2013. Co-star Emma Stone has mentioned that towards the end of this film, Bradley was preparing a diet to add the 40 pounds he would need for the American Sniper role.
Eastwood's directing provides less than 7 months, perhaps less than 6 months between wrap and release. Aloha ended up with 17 months between wrap and release.
Even if there were schedule delays for the release, a 7 month turnaround could have put Aloha in theaters last summer, and a non-Eastwood turnaround would have put Sniper either as this summer's blockbuster, or this coming Christmas season's release - in time for award consideration.
While looking around, I was able to find an image of Chris Kyle's coffin, and it looks like there are 127 Tridents impaled on the lid.
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Eastwood is a minimalist filmmaker, as well as one of the best in getting what he needs to make a successful film (for the most part). Two that come to mind is Unforgiven and Million Dollar Baby. So I agree that his film making schedule appeases the studio heads both in the pre and post stages. By Hollywood standards, he breeds success. His politics notwithstanding, I happen to enjoy his "fliks" and I'm not sure he wears his colors on his sleeve when it comes to his films. Although I imagine you would come up with many examples of just how he infuses his films with his political leanings.
There is one true thing though, he makes money for those Hollywood execs and they bend over backwards to accommodate him. Politics and art are not such strange bedfellows as some may, or may not, believe (have you ever heard of Leni Riefenstahl?); still though Eastwood does command a certain level of attention not afforded to others. But don't be fooled, it's all about the green leafy diet, not politics.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
As for your statement regarding the Lefty leaning Hollywood industry, now I get it.
But, I have to ask, why do you think they allow Eastwood to make his films?
Eastwood makes them money, so they can spend the money on garbage libtard fliks. Eastwood learned early on how to turn around a film quickly, reducing the fiscal exposure to minimums. Eastwood's time from final wrap to film-in-the-can and ready for distribution is the shortest in the industry - he sets the standard, and this makes the bankers and the studio heads happy. The unfortunate circumstances of "Waterworld" would never have happened under his watch.
In the event some readers did not understand this, or did not believe this, films currently in cinema provide an example.
Eastwood directed American Sniper, filming started on Mar 31, 2014 and was still filming as of June 3. It was released on Christmas Day 2014.
The star Bradley Cooper was also in a film called Aloha, just released this past week in cinema. It was filmed beginning September 26, 2013 and still filming in mid-December 2013. Co-star Emma Stone has mentioned that towards the end of this film, Bradley was preparing a diet to add the 40 pounds he would need for the American Sniper role.
Eastwood's directing provides less than 7 months, perhaps less than 6 months between wrap and release. Aloha ended up with 17 months between wrap and release.
Even if there were schedule delays for the release, a 7 month turnaround could have put Aloha in theaters last summer, and a non-Eastwood turnaround would have put Sniper either as this summer's blockbuster, or this coming Christmas season's release - in time for award consideration.
While looking around, I was able to find an image of Chris Kyle's coffin, and it looks like there are 127 Tridents impaled on the lid.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Eastwood is a minimalist filmmaker, as well as one of the best in getting what he needs to make a successful film (for the most part). Two that come to mind is Unforgiven and Million Dollar Baby. So I agree that his film making schedule appeases the studio heads both in the pre and post stages. By Hollywood standards, he breeds success. His politics notwithstanding, I happen to enjoy his "fliks" and I'm not sure he wears his colors on his sleeve when it comes to his films.
SGG
I'm not completely taken with all of his directorial works, but a few have made me want to see more:
High Plains Drifter
Eiger Sanction
Outlaw Josie Wales
Sudden Impact
Pale Rider
Bridges of Madison County
Absolute Power
You're thinking Heartbreak Ridge could have been made by Rob Reiner?
Flags of Our Fathers?
Gran Torino?
For Sniper, I have come to think I really will need to purchase a copy.
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