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If you like your Internet you can keep your Internet. Period.

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Monday, March 9, 2015 00:16
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Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:11 PM

Rappy, how do you KNOW it's "not your problem"?

You don't.

"We're" not the only one being "gated", and "we're" not the only one suffering from decrepit infrastructure. I'll bet that you personally don't have the expertise to even find out if you're getting butt-fucked by the telecoms.

And unless you're living in Chattanooga TN or Wilson NC (which operate their own municipal broadband) the chances are, you are getting shafted. Americans have poor broadband service - worse than Romania and Canada! - and pay more per megabit per second than anyone else.

Speed

http://royal.pingdom.com/2010/11/12/real-connection-speeds-for-interne
t-users-across-the-world
/

Cost (compared the average EU)
http://www.newamerica.org/static_html/oti_coc2014/2014_US_EU_compariso
n_median.svg

http://www.newamerica.org/oti/the-cost-of-connectivity-2014/


How does having slow, expensive internet service boost competitiveness and innovation? Requiring net neutrality only introduces competition back into the telecom world, and isn't that the basis of capitalism?

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Sunday, March 1, 2015 9:03 PM

All I know is that more govt control is not the answer.

330+ pages of new regulations, and the public STILL has not seen it yet.

That truly is unheard of.

Pelosi once insanely said that they had to pass the bill before we could find out what is in it.

This " law " wasn't even passed by Congress, and yet we are still stuck w/ it, and no one knows what's in it yet.

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Monday, March 2, 2015 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Speed



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http://royal.pingdom.com/2010/11/12/real-connection-speeds-for-interne
t-users-across-the-world
/

Cost (compared the average EU)
http://www.newamerica.org/static_html/oti_coc2014/2014_US_EU_compariso
n_median.svg

http://www.newamerica.org/oti/the-cost-of-connectivity-2014/


How does having slow, expensive internet service boost competitiveness and innovation? Requiring net neutrality only introduces competition back into the telecom world, and isn't that the basis of capitalism?


Sorry, Big Government is not the harbinger of competition that you seem to think it is. The basis of capitalism is to offer a market price for a market service. You are willing to pay your price for your service, and speed. You might have a reliable service and speed available, but you just don't want to pay that price.

Shirley, it must be the same enormous project to revamp every tower in Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea as it must be in USA.
Note how UK, Spain, Italy, France, Portugal, Isreal, Austria, Poland, Greece, Turkey are all slower than US, and they have far fewer towers to upgrade every year.

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Monday, March 2, 2015 4:42 AM


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Sorry, Big Government is not the harbinger of competition that you seem to think it is.
Who do you think designed the internet anyway? (No, not Al Gore.) Do you KNOW? If you did, you wouldn't have made such an ignorant statement!

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Shirley, it must be the same enormous project to revamp every tower in Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea as it must be in USA.
Do you even know how to read? They don't use towers, they use fiberoptic cable.

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Monday, March 2, 2015 8:07 AM

I've gone from no internet, dial up, DSL , and high speed ... I swear, the spoiled, entitlement mindset of some people baffles me. Healthcare & high speed internet are NOT F-ing Rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

" government " did not lay those cable lines. Get a gorram clue!

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Monday, March 2, 2015 9:44 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I've gone from no internet, dial up, DSL , and high speed ... I swear, the spoiled, entitlement mindset of some people baffles me. Healthcare & high speed internet are NOT F-ing Rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I switched from "high-speed" 6 mbps to Xfinity 50 mbps. There's hardly any noticeable difference, but the good news is I'm paying less now than I was before. Free market capitalism at its best.

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Monday, March 2, 2015 1:26 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I've gone from no internet, dial up, DSL , and high speed ... I swear, the spoiled, entitlement mindset of some people baffles me. Healthcare & high speed internet are NOT F-ing Rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I switched from "high-speed" 6 mbps to Xfinity 50 mbps. There's hardly any noticeable difference, but the good news is I'm paying less now than I was before. Free market capitalism at its best.



You DO realize how sad that is, don't you? Being satisfied with bottom swill like that, and promoting it like some kind of achievement?

I have a question: Who is your avatar? That looks like a very young Patricia Neal.

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Monday, March 2, 2015 3:45 PM

Govt take over of the internet isn't going to ignite new competition.

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Monday, March 2, 2015 9:59 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Govt take over of the internet isn't going to ignite new competition.



Neither will telecom dominance. Once upon a time, Facebook, Google, Amazon, and Netflix were exactly the kind of small company that would be locked out of the telecom's desired pricing structure. Since you NEVER know which startup is going to ignite, which small ideas will go big, you need to give a fertile ground for all small ventures. A slow, expensive internet benefits nobody- except the company that controls it, of course.


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Tuesday, March 3, 2015 2:32 AM

Its fun to come back here and see that our resident wingnuts are against something the citizens support, because their favorite whack jobs whined, and that can't NOT be in lock step.



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