Does anyone else not like Lost?

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RADHIL

Monday, October 25, 2004 2:00 PM

For those looking for the more "survival" bent stories.... keep in mind, in show space-time, they actually haven't even been there that long. Each episode has been roughly equivalent to a full day - that makes five, I think. Less than a week. The show is practically still running in pilot mode - all setup and introduction, because the regular routine hasn't hit yet (you can see the outlines of it in the last episode - the water trips will be a routine hazard). We can expect to see cannibalism next season at that rate.

Or maybe not - there weren't that many little piggies left to slaughter, were there?

Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction

PIZMOBEACH

Monday, October 25, 2004 2:04 PM

How long before F*X comes out with "My Fat Obnoxious Bachelor Swan Billionaire is Lost..."

BIKISDAD

Monday, October 25, 2004 3:51 PM

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Originally posted by Radhil:
For those looking for the more "survival" bent stories.... keep in mind, in show space-time, they actually haven't even been there that long. Each episode has been roughly equivalent to a full day - that makes five, I think. Less than a week. The show is practically still running in pilot mode - all setup and introduction, because the regular routine hasn't hit yet (you can see the outlines of it in the last episode - the water trips will be a routine hazard). We can expect to see cannibalism next season at that rate.

Or maybe not - there weren't that many little piggies left to slaughter, were there?

Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction

Radhil makes a very good point. While "we", the viewers, are now several weeks into the series, in the show's time frame... - I think that Jack, in the most recent episode, said they had now been there for six days.

I think we have to make an adjustment to their time frame - kind of like when watching 24 - knowing that each episode is one hour of one day even though it takes an eight months to play out in tv time. On Lost, at least so far, it appears that each episode represents one day and they are not skipping time in between episodes like many shows do.

Good observation by Radhil.

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FEMALEJAYNE

Monday, October 25, 2004 4:32 PM

I miss tv that has a plot. What is wrong with surprising the aduience with plosiable situations?

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SNIPER

Monday, October 25, 2004 4:35 PM

I think that the main thing isn't the monster: it's the people in the show that counts. Which I'm happy with, we're not getting another Jurassic Park or something, but a very strong character drama with some very fantastic elements.

RHYMEPHILE

Monday, October 25, 2004 4:41 PM

Thank God for Lost, is what I say. Otherwise there would be nothing on TV to watch. I do enjoy Veronica Mars as well, like whomever mentioned it in the thread above. And I guess I'll force myself to watch The Mountain if James Marsters becomes a regular. I heard they liked his performance. But other than that, there's nothing on. I find myself taping Angel from TNT and watching that at night.

I find the Lost flashbacks interesting to a degree. I could have done with less of Kate's weird Australian sheep ranch escape.

I hope the Invisi-Monster eats a whole bunch of people! That will make for some good drama, a bit more interesting than the typical stranded-on-an-island stuff. If I wanted to watch what people do to survive I'd watch some crap like Survivor. I'm happy with them revealing the characters' backgrounds, because I find that more compelling than hunting for water.

My theory on the empty coffin: Jack was arguing with the airline representative about shipping his father's body back. I think he had the coffin on the plane, but they wouldn't allow him to bring the body back, thus it was empty.

But the burning questions I have:

I read in TV Guide that the producers can get around everyone wearing the same clothes by saying the survivors went through everyone's suitcases. What about poor Hurley? I love Hurley! Perhaps he'll have to sew something together. I'm getting a vision of Homer Simpson in his muumuu and hat.

What ever happened to the dude they pulled out from under the still-turning turbine that had his leg chopped off? He must have died. They never mentioned it though.

Wouldn't Locke have had some atrophy of his leg muscles? He said he was in the wheelchair for four years -- you don't just get up and walk after four years of not moving your legs. Miracle, okay, but walking after sitting for four years, I don't think so.

It should be interesting to see when it comes time for Claire to give birth. But she's eight months along, so theoretically that won't happen until next season maybe. And I never knew Emilie de Ravin was Australian. She did a really good not-Australian when she was on Roswell. *sigh* Roswell. I miss that show.

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DANFAN

Monday, October 25, 2004 5:01 PM

From a storytelling point of view, there may be only two main reasons to create a strong fantasy element in a story:

1) To create an extreme crucible in which to test your characters to their limits (e.g., will Ripley survive the alien and escape the ship or will she break?).

2) To distract your audience from the fact that you don't have the skill to tell a decent story.

I so hope that Lost fits into the former category. I see so little worth watching this season...

STARPILOTGRAINGER

Monday, October 25, 2004 5:18 PM

Just as a minor point, I think that, except for the pilot (both parts of it, it was intended as a two hour episode), which all took place in the first few hours, the official timeline is that every episode is intended to take place over two days.

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SHINY

Monday, October 25, 2004 6:08 PM

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They're not the big mysteries -what the hell is up with the island, why are there polar bears, what's the big invisible monster, where _is_ the island, etc. Maybe they'll attempt to solve them, but I get the feeling they have no intention to. The mini-mysteries are what they use to distract us from being jerked around on the bigger issues.

I'm worried about this as well. It's the big mysteries that keep you coming back, so it's not in their interest to solve them. And if they do solve them, they have to invent new ones to replace them. It's hard to imagine keeping this up for more than a season or two before it gets real old...

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

RADHIL

Monday, October 25, 2004 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by Shiny:
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Originally posted by StarPilotGrainger:
They're not the big mysteries -what the hell is up with the island, why are there polar bears, what's the big invisible monster, where _is_ the island, etc. Maybe they'll attempt to solve them, but I get the feeling they have no intention to. The mini-mysteries are what they use to distract us from being jerked around on the bigger issues.

I'm worried about this as well. It's the big mysteries that keep you coming back, so it's not in their interest to solve them. And if they do solve them, they have to invent new ones to replace them. It's hard to imagine keeping this up for more than a season or two before it gets real old...

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

This viewpoint has me scratching my head. Mulder didn't find his sister or his aliens in the first half of the first season of X-Files, did he (ok, bad example, that sucked in the end)? John didn't make it back to Earth early on in Farscape, did he? Did Picard run into Q and smack him down, ever?

The big mysteries are for big episodes. Season openers and closers, big momentum changers, those kinda weeks. We've had five. I don't see how it could be time yet.

Radhil Trebors
Persona Under Construction

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