best sci-fi villans

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HOBBIT

Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:34 AM

Probably one of the best sci-fi villians ever was the AI run amok, "Shodan," from the "System Shock" computer games. That thing was scary as hell.

Other than that, they've already been mentioned:

Darth Vader (pure genious)
Hal 9000

THESOMNAMBULIST

Sunday, October 24, 2004 9:03 AM

Hey MRGOSH

Welcome. Just wanted to say hi. I'm relatively new here myself.

So... hello.

I just wanted to say how diverse interests can be. I say this only because you mentioned Gary Oldman in the Fifth Element, it's weird, he is one of the reasons I didn't get on with that film.
Sorry.
I'm not trying to stir up trouble, i just find it interesting how we both view the same thing from such very different points of view.

I kinda like Gary Oldman too but I think Luc Besson gives him too much range and Gary ends up being far too cartoonish - just my thoughts hope you don't mind.

I'm with ya on the Angelus thing though - that is a great character.

Regardless to all the above, welcome anyway :)

TheSomnambulist

www.cirqus.com

MRGOSH

Sunday, October 24, 2004 3:23 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

I just wanted to say how diverse interests can be. I say this only because you mentioned Gary Oldman in the Fifth Element, it's weird, he is one of the reasons I didn't get on with that film.

Yarr! You obviously lack the maturity to appreciate the brilliance of his nuanced performance! If there was a "fist shaking" emoticon I would inert that right here. I'm pretty sure nothing more expressive than a good fist shaking!
I guess I understand where you're comming from though. And, not that any of you care, but I had a dream with scorpius in it last night. I was supremely freaked out! Have fun everybody!

ROCKETJOCK

Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:45 PM

My nominee's an unlikely one: Jonathan Harris as Dr. Zachary Smith, from Lost in Space.

Wait! Put down the weapons! I can justify it.

Watch the first six episodes of LIS. Harris constructs a competently evil self-server who has a surprising amount of charm, but is perfectly willing to kill -- and capable of doing the job personally! (He karate chops a security guard in the first five minutes of the first broadcast episode, and stuffs his body down a disposal chute. Okay, it's not spelled out that the guy is dead, but it's still hours to launch -- if he wasn't dead, he'd have shown up to blow Smith's cover. QED, he's all corpsified.)

The scene where he realizes he is trapped on board the Jupiter II during the sabotaged launch is a good example of Harris' skill; he goes almost instantly from blind panic to a cold grace-under-pressure as, with seconds to launch, he suppresses his terror, strapping himself into an acceleration chair without a wasted movement. A dispairing shriek as he launches demonstrates the character's inner cowardice, but, considering his cold self-control just moments earlier, the viewer is prone to forgive him the flaw.

Equally impressive is the oddly rightous anger he demonstrates a commercial break later, as, perceiving betrayal at his employer's hands, he screams his outrage into a dysfunctional communication device.

Unfortunately, after those first six episodes, the writers (and admittedly Harris himself) began playing the character as pure comic relief, part of the program's rapid slide from gripping action/adventure to sixties sitcom. By the end of the first season, Smith was nothing but a buffoon, playing second fiddle to a man in a robot suit. Thus are opportunities lost.

"Hermanos! The Devil has built a robot! Andale!" -- Numero Cinco

OZYMANDIAS

Sunday, October 24, 2004 8:00 PM

Even though I agree with most of the above, here's my extended list.

comics- Dr. Doom, he's just too stinkin evil. Also Mordath from the CROSSGEN SERIES, Sojourn
video games- all the alien swine from Half-life
Fantasy- Sauron
Movies that haven't been mentioned yet: Gort from THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, That evil Samara from THE RING (that movie still freaks me out, and now there's a ring 2 coming out... ill be sleeping with a night light for a month), and finally BILL, as in KIll BILL!!! Come on people, he was one cold heated son of a motherless, bow-legged elk. Well, thats it.

And Melkor fled before the laughter of Tulkas, and hated him ever after

CYBERSNARK

Monday, October 25, 2004 12:48 AM

Well, if we're gonna include fantasy, I'll have to make some additions.

Sesshoumaru, InuYasha's half-brother. His very name means "Perfection in Killing." He is ruthless, brutal, excruciatingly calm, and very polite when needed, like a blend of Niska and Early. He's also not entirely Evil, as his grudge against InuYasha is so reasonable (InuYasha is the one who's committed the crime). I especially like his adoption of Rin, and the simultaneously sweet and creepifying master/pet relationship between them.

And Naraku (again from InuYasha) is possibly the most ruthless, sadistic bastard I have ever encountered. This guy could teach Joss a thing or three about cruelty. It's not enough to kill Kikyo and InuYasha, he has to break their hearts first (which kinda backfired, admittedly). Then, he doesn't just kill Sango's family, he uses the youngest child to slaughter them, but only wounds Sango, then releases his control just in time for Sango to watch her little brother die. Then he brings the kid back to life and uses him as an assassin, again releasing his control just as Sango, blinded by tears, is about to murder her own brother. . .

He also breaks off pieces of himself to turn into servants and either sends them off to die or tortures them to ensure their obedience.

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Originally posted by MrGosh:
And, not that any of you care, but I had a dream with scorpius in it last night. I was supremely freaked out!

If you've watched the series you might wanna consider the possiibility that that was neither "Scorpius," nor purely a dream. . .

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

WILDBILL

Monday, October 25, 2004 1:25 AM

Evil Spock from "Mirror, Mirror".

In this day of lame Star Trek, I dream of a show set in this alternate universe with Evil Spock doing cool but evil stuff.

(By the way, I heard that a spin-off was pitched featuring Harry Mudd. Although he's more anti-hero.)

WILLIAMS

Monday, October 25, 2004 2:12 AM

More of an anti-hero guy myself and Harry Mudd would fit in the Firefly 'verse pretty well. I wouldn't mind being on a ship run by fun-loving hedonist - except for that darn untrustworthiness.

Avon on Blake's Seven - villian or anti-hero? Any fans of B7 recall when he was searching a shuttle to throw Villa overboard to make orbit? This scene sticks in my mind.

MRGOSH

Monday, October 25, 2004 3:35 AM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
If you've watched the series you might wanna consider the possiibility that that was neither "Scorpius," nor purely a dream. . .

Eek, now that's a thought that's going to fester...

I also have a fantasy addition. I don't know if any of you have ever read the Tad Williams series, Memory, Sorrow, and the Thorn, but the Storm King from that series has always been a favorite of mine. You never actually get to meet him, but he inspires some pretty evil happenin's, and there is an interesting backstory as to what led him to his evil ways.

Also, any talk of great villains needs to mention Iago from Shakespeare's Othello. That guy had some mad manipulation skills.

JUKO

Monday, October 25, 2004 3:37 AM

Hmm... I like pretty much any villain that Gary Oldman plays. That guy can do baddies.

Silik from Enterprise. He was just fun.

Jubal Early, of course.

Smith from the first Matrix.

Father from Equilibrium.

Eh, can't think of any others that I really, really liked.

Does Blue Sun sponser the Blue Man Group?

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