Fox gets trolled by satire site yet again.
POSTED BY: ElvisChrist
UPDATED: Friday, January 9, 2015 12:10
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Finally, I think he's got it! By George, he's got it!
"The rain in Spain falls mainly in the plain, the plain............
And where does it rain all day, on the plain.............in Spain!"
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Right.
And the ACA didn't make the insurance companies raise their rates. They did it all by themselves.
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Originally posted by kpo:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
My rates nearly doubled, entirely because of the ACA. And they're expected to go up more, if this piece of go-se law isn't repealed.
Honest liar ? Eff you. My wallet is taking a severe hit , all because of the Demcorats.
That's all the proof I need.
It was said all along that there would be winners and losers under Obamacare, and that rich people especially could expect their rates to go up.
It's not personal. It's just war.
I'm far from rich. A lot of hard working, middle of the roaders are getting hosed as well.
Sorry, that's simply not fair. Not by a long shot.
I don't smoke. I have no chronic health issues, preexisting conditions... fairly fit for my age. And yet, I'm penalized for not being a complete ward of the state.
That effing sucks.
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Originally posted by second:
But that was because the health insurance companies did not price the policies right the first time in those counties. The companies will learn. It was their fault, not ACA. You ought to put the blame where it belongs instead of where you want the blame to be for your personal political party's agenda.
Price them right according to who ? Obama ? Good lord, you might as well move to N.Korea, you're so gullible and wanting for a dear leader.
It's entirely the fault of the ACA, and your ignorance on this matter isn't going to change that.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Obama has nothing to do with setting prices. He only put a program in place to help ease pricing and get more people insured. The fact that you still suggest that the President is setting pricing shows how disingenuous you are or at the very least, ignorant of the topic. Perhaps you should look into it first instead of spewing negative talking points from Fox News.
The government did not provide insurance but set up a system that enabled more people to gain health insurance through private insurance companies. Yes the ACA does expand Medicaid but that too helped get more people insured and the cost of that is spread across the nation. The fact that some Republican Governors refused to set up private exchanges in their state to help insurance companies absorb new clients is their problem and their constituents will force change.
It tickles me to see people complain about this while ignoring the fact that they spend more picking up the bill for the uninsured who show up in emergency rooms across the country. The ACA will help with that. Lack of insurance is also what is responsible for the long wait times while there. Again economics 101. Rather than be upset about the ACA based on who instituted it, sit back and enjoy the fact that something our government did really is for the best.
P.S. TWO is absolutely correct. Any pricing difficulties were due to insurance companies not being experienced in biding for new clients. They have been doing their pricing behind closed doors immune from Anti Trust Laws. That means these insurance companies where making deals not to enter each others territories and deciding as a group what to charge.
By the way you argue against the ACA, I can see you did not have a clue about this.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
But that was because the health insurance companies did not price the policies right the first time in those counties. The companies will learn. It was their fault, not ACA. You ought to put the blame where it belongs instead of where you want the blame to be for your personal political party's agenda.
Price them right according to who ? Obama ? Good lord, you might as well move to N.Korea, you're so gullible and wanting for a dear leader.
It's entirely the fault of the ACA, and your ignorance on this matter isn't going to change that.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Where do you think these units get their information? I'm serious, can you tell me where? And does this source include free medication/sedation?
It would appear this thread is proof of MacGruber's explanation of how stupid and gullible the libtards of America are, and how easy it is for Gruber/Obama to sucker them.
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Originally posted by second:
Amazingly, somebody went to the trouble to prove it is a hoax. There is no ban on sprinkles. Snopes has done the research: www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/donutsprinkles.asp
Did you even bother to read your linky? Did you need to be led around by the nose to follow the narrow parsement of definitions and meanings used to suit snopes' predetermined conclusions?
There narrow definition of "ban" to not include "refusing to allow" or "saying something cannot be done" or to enjoin, interdict, or bar?
Using a strict definition of "sprinkle" to not include the majority of sprinkles made with PHOs?
Snopes did point out that the basis in fact was from a FDA proposal regarding the PHOs which sprinkles are made of. Using sprinkles is a way of bringing a common example to the forefront so that common consumers of news can readily understand what a PHO is. Are you so stupid that you cannot comprehend this? Snopes did fail to mention that, under Obama, administrative "proposals" are normally fast-tracked into rule, regulation, policy so most reasonable thinking people can comprehend that this is what is reported - and in fact, often by the time stories of Obama's dictatorial pronouncements are released, Obama has already enacted them.
Snopes admitted the FDA proposal was real, factual.
Snopes admitted that the PHOs are actually, really used in the manufacture of sprinkles - and did not present a more common, identifiable example of what other foods do use PHOs.
Snopes admitted that sprinkles can be used on donuts, ice cream, as well as others.
So Snopes proved that the claims were true (other than Obama already had banned them, in the past - not sure if that is the case), but you choose to believe that this proof of truth is actually proof of falsehood?
How far were you willing to stretch your credibility for that?
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There is a run of conspiracy theories in Russia, of all places, that shines light on the Republicans' Sprinkocalypse. Some people could be called honest liars. They truly believe in what they say. http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/5889/full
Was there some point in that linked article that mentions Sprinkles? I did not see it. Or were you intentionally lying, defusing, or deflecting?
https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/11/08/2013-26854/tentati
ve-determination-regarding-partially-hydrogenated-oils-request-for-comments-and-for
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Obama has nothing to do with setting prices. He only put a program in place to help ease pricing and get more people insured. The fact that you still suggest that the President is setting pricing shows how disingenuous you are or at the very least, ignorant of the topic. Perhaps you should look into it first instead of spewing negative talking points from Fox News.
You're just flat out factually wrong here. Putting the program in place is specifically what amounts to higher costs. Rates went up, despite the claims that the average family would get a drastic ( $ 2,500 ) reduction in HC benefits.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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RAPPY...don't you and some others here realize that your lies only work to destroy your credibility, not just in what you are lying about, but everything that follows as well.
Off course you do. Telling the truth is not what you're about. Spreading bullshit is.
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Rappy
You're just flat out factually wrong here. Putting the program in place is specifically what amounts to higher costs. Rates went up, despite the claims that the average family would get a drastic ( $ 2,500 ) reduction in HC benefits.
"At the same time, costs are coming down. The Congressional Budget Office found the health care law is making significant contributions to fiscal responsibility. The CBO’s most recent estimates show that repealing the law would actually increase deficits by $1.7 trillion over the next 20 years. Moreover, average premiums for coverage through the marketplaces are about 15 percent lower than the CBO previously projected.
There’s more good news when it comes to health care and Medicare spending. The rate of increase in real health spending per person is at its lowest point in 50 years and more than 3 percentage points under the historical average, according to recent data. Growth in the average cost of care for a person enrolled in Medicare is also at unusually low levels, and if that success is maintained, it will translate into trillions in savings over the decades to come. Those savings can be used to pay down our deficit or invest in infrastructure, education, innovation and other key national priorities".
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/affordable-care-act-is-
working-104942.html
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Yeah, that's right...................they have some brilliant minds over there.
So good that Karl Rove couldn't keep it in his pants when the Big Night came about and he questioned the math.
"What!? That can't be. We promised Obama would lose. How dare you report he won, again!"
It was on that night that they said, Never Again! Operation Suppress Votes went into affect. God those guys are such geniuses.
SGG
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Originally posted by whozit:
At least FOX News doesn't have Don Lemon, Al Sharpton or Mr Ed Shultz. They're as dumb as they come. I wonder how much logger MSNBC will last? It would make a better Home Shopping Channel.
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Costs are not coming down.
Simple economics at work here. Adding more patients with fewer doctors is basic supply / demand... Cost has to go up
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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