At least Stonehenge serves some general purpose

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, December 28, 2014 2:03 AM

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Ya almost lost me w/ the mythical flood thing, but then I stuck around, and you actually made sense.

Well done.

If all major religions share the same account (amounting to all written history of that time), is it really "mythical" in the end?

Also, the lush gardens of Babylon, Gaza, and Alexandria turned to desert sand, thus thrusting those civilizations away, and isolating development of sub-Saharan lands from the Med region.

I agree about the prevalence of flood myths in all cultures indicating it was an event (or events) that actually happened. More than likely they refer to floods caused by the melting of glaciers at the end of an ice age.

That would be a slow "flood" indeed.
Any perception about the worldwide evidence of "moving" magnetic poles? The thickness of the Earth's crust? Compared to the diameter of Earth?

ECGORDON

Sunday, December 28, 2014 2:29 AM

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That would be a slow "flood" indeed.

It is not unusual to have flooding in areas with more than average snowfall, so not hard to believe melting glaciers would cause the same.

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Any perception about the worldwide evidence of "moving" magnetic poles? The thickness of the Earth's crust? Compared to the diameter of Earth?

You haven't been reading Velikovsky, have you?

AURAPTOR

Sunday, December 28, 2014 8:09 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

That would be a slow "flood" indeed.

Any perception about the worldwide evidence of "moving" magnetic poles? The thickness of the Earth's crust? Compared to the diameter of Earth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_Floods

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, December 29, 2014 12:36 AM

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That would be a slow "flood" indeed.

It is not unusual to have flooding in areas with more than average snowfall, so not hard to believe melting glaciers would cause the same.

Flooding in the open ocean does not occur with "more than average snowfall" or similar. You are referring to land masses with narrowly channeled waterways, such as rivers and funneled watersheds. Localized "flooding" does occur in these due to the narrow scope of focus, and when huge amounts of land surface are exposed to rapid melting. This does not compare to worldwide flooding. Regardless the pace of polar melting, it cannot create worldwide sudden flooding, only a slow rise in the "sea level" and subsequent submerging of coastal lands.

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Any perception about the worldwide evidence of "moving" magnetic poles? The thickness of the Earth's crust? Compared to the diameter of Earth?

You haven't been reading Velikovsky, have you?

had not heard of him, I think. Referring to Immanual? That is what comes up in search. You are addressing his worlds colliding concept? I cannot agree.
I was referring to Terran focused events. How does the entire world become awash in flooding deluge, with the previously existing civilization submerged or removed from habitable existence, and previous sea harbors submerged dozens or hundreds of feet below the new sea levels? And result in the crust pointing to a different location for the magnetic poles? Do you know where the current magnetic north pole is located? how long it has been there? Where has it been drifting from (the last location of magnetic north pole?)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, December 29, 2014 12:40 AM

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That would be a slow "flood" indeed.

Any perception about the worldwide evidence of "moving" magnetic poles? The thickness of the Earth's crust? Compared to the diameter of Earth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_Floods

Interesting. I don't recall hearing this term, but it is related to the events of 40 days and 40 nights, following the same time period. Their estimates of time seem accurate as well. The only fault in the wiki definition is the definition of "ice age" which is obsolete.

As the OP, do you feel the pyramids predate the period 13,000-15,000 years ago or post-date, or were concurrent?
And, as bonus, do you consider what is currently identified as The Sphynx to predate or postdate the "ice age" period mentioned in your linky?

AURAPTOR

Monday, December 29, 2014 1:16 AM

THE pyramids, as in the great pyramids of Giza? I'd have to guess they're younger than 13,000 years old.

* However - whether as part of or completely unrelated, I've had a idea in my head, a general thought that there's been ,so far, large sections of man's history that have been lost or are yet un-discovered. Or re-discovered. It really is more of a fictional , almost romantic view that what we know of humans on this planet , whats's been taught, is VASTLY different than what has actually taken place. No, not some grand conspiracy, involving secret orders, ancient aliens or any such thing, but even so, I have to think that there are mini ' Atlantis ' type societies, that have cropped up and then faded away, erased from our knowledge of today.

We rewrite history even as it happens, for various reasons, so the idea that mankind has lost or deleted parts of our past, with intent or by sheer indifference, makes perfect sense to me.

Also, did you know of this ?

http://www.wired.com/2009/12/mediterranean-flood/

Now, this even clearly predates any humans walking around taking notes or scribbling on stones, but certainly early hominids were wandering about, and likely in the area of the Med.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, December 29, 2014 2:09 AM

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THE pyramids, as in the great pyramids of Giza? I'd have to guess they're younger than 13,000 years old.

* However - whether as part of or completely unrelated, I've had a idea in my head, a general thought that there's been ,so far, large sections of man's history that have been lost or are yet un-discovered. Or re-discovered. It really is more of a fictional , almost romantic view that what we know of humans on this planet , whats's been taught, is VASTLY different than what has actually taken place. No, not some grand conspiracy, involving secret orders, ancient aliens or any such thing, but even so, I have to think that there are mini ' Atlantis ' type societies, that have cropped up and then faded away, erased from our knowledge of today.

We rewrite history even as it happens, for various reasons, so the idea that mankind has lost or deleted parts of our past, with intent or by sheer indifference, makes perfect sense to me.

Also, did you know of this ?

http://www.wired.com/2009/12/mediterranean-flood/

Now, this even clearly predates any humans walking around taking notes or scribbling on stones, but certainly early hominids were wandering about, and likely in the area of the Med.

I did not exclude all of the other pyramids.

Is that quip in italics from you, or somebody else?

AURAPTOR

Monday, December 29, 2014 3:04 AM

The comments in Italics are mine, as a sort of side bar to the discussion at hand.

Things like that often are fun to imagine, like .... what if Tolkien's books really weren't fantasy, but instead are based in a form of reality. I know, more the stuff of day dreams than even casual message board talk of ancient history.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:21 AM

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* However - whether as part of or completely unrelated, I've had a idea in my head, a general thought that there's been ,so far, large sections of man's history that have been lost or are yet un-discovered.

correct.
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Or re-discovered.

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It really is more of a fictional , almost romantic view that what we know of humans on this planet , whats's been taught, is VASTLY different than what has actually taken place.

not really fictional.
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No, not some grand conspiracy, involving secret orders, ancient aliens or any such thing,

OK, those would be fictional.
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but even so, I have to think that there are mini ' Atlantis ' type societies, that have cropped up and then faded away, erased from our knowledge of today.

all current civilizations, and those in "history" have followed in the footsteps of Atlantis.

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We rewrite history even as it happens, for various reasons, so the idea that mankind has lost or deleted parts of our past, with intent or by sheer indifference, makes perfect sense to me.

Or calamity, followed by power grabs, then "protecting the masses from the truth" as it were.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, January 10, 2015 11:38 AM

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Or calamity, followed by power grabs, then "protecting the masses from the truth" as it were.

Media of today will white wash a story, almost as it happens, to promote and agenda. And it doesn't have to go through some central bureaucracy or minister of propaganda. Reporters are censoring themselves, so as too appease a cult of conformity. ( see recent events in Paris , and the story of one of the woman hostages who was told to convert to Islam )

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