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best sci-fi villans

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Saturday, October 23, 2004 7:26 AM

Nobody has said Niska yet?
Niska, of course!
Baron Harkonnen (sp?) from Dune.
General Sarris from Galaxy Quest.
The Four from Planetary.

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Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:47 AM

Original Vader no question

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Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:11 PM

Hudson Leick as Callisto on Xena: Warrior Princess. Complete psycho that never dies. Nuff said> :D

Claire Stansfield as Alti, an evil Shamaness on Xena too. Can kick the crap out of you using the memories of past and future battles and pain you've endured or will endure with her mind. Wouldn't like to mess with her. A chilling character!

Q is a great character. Lovable and yet annoying! :D

Sloane, Sark, The Francinator, and Lauren from Alias are amazing.

Totally agree about Rob Patrick as the T-1000!

William B Davis as the Cancer Man in the X-Files. Nic Lea as "Ratboy" Krycek from the same show. Too many other X-File villains to mention, but Eugene Victor Tooms stands out from season one.

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Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:37 PM

Classic Vader is the best. More man than machine, but all bad-a** Sith Lord.
I also liked Magneto from the X-Men movies, the T-1000, classic Boba Fett (not new idiot-clone version), the Predator, Lord Zedd from Power Rangers (if you've seen him you know what I mean), and the grand-daddy of all supervillains....Count Dracula.

and kudos on the nomination of baddies from Alias.

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Saturday, October 23, 2004 6:38 PM

Hmm. . .

People've already mentioned Darth Vader, Jubal Early, and Scorpius, so I'll add Crais (also from Farscape).

The one bright (dark?) spot in either of the Star Wars Prequels has been Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus. Jus because his siding with Sidious is so justified. And more, it's the same thing I'd be doing if I was there (I have issues with the prequel-era Jedi and their hypocrisy).

Stargate has had some cool ones: Apophis, the Replicators (millions upon millions of little metal bugs *shudder*), Anubis.

Andromeda (before it sucked) gave me the magog, who're like alien, acid-spitting, can-track-you-by-the-smell-of-your-blood reavers. They also created the Nietzscheans; genetically-engineered supermen, bereft of morality, religion, compassion, hope, or law (i.e., stripping away everything that makes us human to reveal what [if anything] is underneath). I weep for how incredibly cool that show could've been if the PTBs hadn't ruined it.

On Disney's Gargoyles (it was both fantasy and sci-fi, so I'm counting it) had possibly the best tragic villainous motif ever; as both Demona and the Hunters justified themselves through denial. "What have I. . . What have they done!?!"

Star Trek has had so many for me:

Dukat on DS9 (I agree with Marc Alaimo; he's not a villain, he's a patriot, which makes him even worse). Followed closely by Damar, who was just like him (thus the tragic irony of Damar's redemption and Dukat's willing self-damnation).

Shinzon of Remus, because he represented an issue that I've been struggling with for most of my life (do we have the capability to improve ourselves, or are we just trapped by the circumstances of our lives?). (Nemesis)

Degra, who we first met as a mass-murderer, an enemy to all of Earth. Then he betrayed his own people and everything he believed in for something greater, and who will be remembered as the hero who made it possible to save Earth. (Enterprise)

Dolim, who so personified the concepts of racism and bigotry, while having absolutely no redeeming qualities. (Enterprise)

Silik, who I was just starting to like (ruthless, merciless, but honourable to a fault) when they killed him. (Enterprise)

The Borg up until First Contact, when they were so intimidating and alien (that's my problem with Voyager; the writers stopped trying to write them as aliens and turned the Collective into an Empire).

All the Jem'Hadar, because I'm so fascinated by their acceptance of their slavery. They exist to Obey, to fight, kill, and die at the whims of beings that they acknowledge are their inferiors, because that is the "Order of Things." Also, because they're cowards. (Jem'Hadar say they know no fear, but how can they know courage without fear? And they do fear: they fear disobedience and chaos. They fear it so much that they can't even conceive of it.)

Also the Remans, for being such perfect "evil" stereotypes (tall, nocturnal, deep-voiced, vicious, untrustworthy), but being motivated by something as noble as freedom (however misguided).

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Saturday, October 23, 2004 10:31 PM

Darth Vader is my favourite.

The alien from Alien takes second place.

Jubal Early wins the Firefly Category (IMHO).

And on the topic of Alias; It's filled with cool bad guys. Don't forget Gina Torres as Anna. Oh, and Quentin Tarantino as Mckenas Cole.

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Sunday, October 24, 2004 2:51 AM

Hey y'all!
I've been lurking around here for a while, but I felt like I had to join in cause no one has mentioned my favorite villain yet:

Zorg, from Fifth element! Man, Gary Oldman rules

Also, Mad Props for Scorpius. The scene where Harvey is playing "Home on the Range" on the harmonica is one of my favorite TV moments ever.

And, I feel there needs to be a mention of Angelus in the second season of Buffy. He was just so evil...

Have fun y'all!

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Sunday, October 24, 2004 4:02 AM

HAL 9000.

The best there shall ever be.

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Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:48 AM

Everyone keeps saying Darth Vader. I agree that he was ONE of the best, but The Emperor was the one pulling all the strings throughout the whole series. That's why my vote goes to Palpatine. Bad from beginning to end.

If you're going for Fantasy as well as Sci-Fi, then I have to go with Sauron, and Voldemort.

If you're counting Video game sci-fi, then the Flood from Halo.

If you're counting comedy sci fi then the Vogons from Hitchhikers.

Let's also not forget Smith from the Matrix.

And if Comics count as Sci-fi, which lets face it how can they NOT, then the ultimate would be Dr Doom. He could take on any of these mentioned above and any of the ones mentioned so far, and even if somehow he lost it would be in such a way that it would only serve to further his evil machinations. (stolen from 8-bit theater.)

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Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:26 AM

That's all fine and good, but I'm a big fan of three dementional villians. Two dementional "just bad" villians are boring and aren't nearly as interesting to watch.

*snaps fingers* I forgot Magneto from the X-Men movies. I loved him for the exact reason above... dynamic.

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