Interstellar
POSTED BY: ecgordon
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 08:44
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Just got back from seeing this. There are some very good things about it, and also some things that are very wrong. I've got four shows I want to watch tonight so my full review will have to wait until tomorrow.
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That seems to be the general consensus, some very good things, but not quite a complete masterpiece.
Still, I'm going to check it out. I'm looking forward to reading your review.
SGG
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
Just got back from seeing this. There are some very good things about it, and also some things that are very wrong. I've got four shows I want to watch tonight so my full review will have to wait until tomorrow.
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Quote:Firefly and Interstellar have the same problem with the back story, except Firefly's is bigger. (The back story is what happened before the show starts, the story that got them into this mess in the first place. ) They don't have enough tiny brains or willpower or human energy to slowdown the arrival of the End of the World, but do know how to quickly build spaceships to leave Earth forever? Really?
Originally posted by ecgordon:
There are some very good things about it, and also some things that are very wrong.
Interstellar's NASA, despite being defunded decades before, somehow has the capability of launching dozens of crewed ships that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars each (and does so, inexplicably—get used to that word—from an underground silo that is literally right next to its work offices). Firefly has the harder problem of moving millions of people away from Earth, not just dozens. And Firefly moves them light-years, not just light-minutes to Saturn. www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/space_20/2014/11/interstella
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The wormhole was as close to real as possible. This is a first for wormholes in movies. I watched this video about it.
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We saw it yesterday as well, and even today I'm still "Loading... please wait...." mode.
I should mention for anyone going to see it that it's 169 minutes long, so don't get there early. There was a couple scenes 2/3 of the way through I just really wanted to go for a smoke break (and I don't smoke!) but I will say that I didn't notice how long it was until that point.
I think I liked the movie. (I will give it an A-) I had some problems with the voice work (McConaughey tends to mumble) and the music scores were written by a teenaged music major(at least it felt like it) with one of those old electric organs and at maybe 60-70 decibels. Painfully loud. It was still loud with my fingers plugged in my ears. Did not take the kiddo and I'm glad we didn't as the intensity of the suspenseful scenes and constant life/deathness and loudness would have been too much.
I do not care for the way they resolved the whole thing. "THEY" and "SOMETIME, SOMEWERE IN THE FUTURE" after going to such lengths for the rest of the movie to come up with a plot just seemed to cheapen it. Also "HERE'S THE SCENARIO, THE EARTH IS MESSED UP>>> RUN WITH IT" Just sucked. Talk to any scientist and they can give you dozens of reasons for an apocalypse. It was mindless robot time. ARGH, DUST KILL CROP. MUST LEAVE PLANET. So sad, lets just move on??? After all, we still have 2 and a half hours to go people 
Don't look at that hydroponic plant behind the curtain............. *snort*
There were definitely some great visuals and sensations and science aspects worthy of praise. The robot was one of the best of those. They actually put some thought or research into them and the interaction with them was one of the better points. And it certainly had the feel of an amusement park ride and kept my attention for almost three hours.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Firefly and Interstellar have the same problem with the back story, except Firefly's is bigger. (The back story is what happened before the show starts, the story that got them into this mess in the first place. ) They don't have enough tiny brains or willpower or human energy to slowdown the arrival of the End of the World, but do know how to quickly build spaceships to leave Earth forever? Really?
Originally posted by ecgordon:
There are some very good things about it, and also some things that are very wrong.
Interstellar's NASA, despite being defunded decades before, somehow has the capability of launching dozens of crewed ships that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars each (and does so, inexplicably—get used to that word—from an underground silo that is literally right next to its work offices). Firefly has the harder problem of moving millions of people away from Earth, not just dozens. And Firefly moves them light-years, not just light-minutes to Saturn. www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/space_20/2014/11/interstella
r_science_review_the_movie_s_black_holes_wormholes_relativity.html
I did not know you found the Firefly backstory inexplicable. Is this viewpoint shared by many others? You are aware Joss used no blackholes or FTL travel? He did not say that Richard Branson was in charge of them, or had any surviving arks in The Verse.
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As I state in my review, about the only thing I can find fault with Firefly is the fact that they had the technology to terraform hundreds of planets and moons in another solar system but were helpless in avoiding the fate of Earth That Was.
In Interstellar, crops are dying world-wide and humanity is close to starving, and yet they think it makes more sense to spend billions of dollars on a questionable space mission rather than working on hydroponics or weather control. Of course, in both cases it is just in service to the story the creators wanted to tell whether it all made sense or not.
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Quote:When Mal's ancestors left Earth, they had artificial gravity and they could terraform a planet. Whether or not Earth was truly and completely "used up" as Mal claims, why wasn't Mars terraformed? And why are there no people left on Mars or elsewhere back in the Solar System? Why take a starship cruise that won't end until after you are long dead? Maybe the starship cruise stops at interesting port cities along the way? No? It's nonstop until you arrive at the 'Verse?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I did not know you found the Firefly backstory inexplicable. Is this viewpoint shared by many others? You are aware Joss used no blackholes or FTL travel? He did not say that Richard Branson was in charge of them, or had any surviving arks in The Verse.
That sounds like a prison ship from which no one can escape. How did Joss Whedon force all Earthlings to take that cruise, leaving no one behind in the Solar System?
Interstellar and Firefly have got a lot in common as far as being serious about physics and what is physically possible for people to do. Joss Whedon isn't silly enough to claim accuracy about Firefly physics. Or Buffy physics. The Nolan Brothers are insinuating that all their physics are totally accurate because the Interstellar computer graphics are.
The Nolan Brothers say they want a movie as important as Kubrick's 2001, but the Nolans didn't let physics constrain their story. Kubrick obeyed ordinary physics until the last few minutes of his movie. Nolans violated physics every time it got between them and a particular visual.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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