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Firefly == Gilmore Girls in Space?

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UPDATED: Friday, December 20, 2002 05:17
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Wednesday, December 18, 2002 3:38 AM

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Originally posted by Twirlip:
Joss's writing, though, is different. Every time I see something written by Joss, something whacks me over the head anew. And the thing is this: Joss is not afraid of silence. Sorkin tends to cram as much rapid-fire dialogue into a scene as possible. It's great fun if you can keep up. And when he does use silence, it's to great effect because it happens so seldom.



I'm not so sure about the comparison between Amy Sherman Palladino and Aaron Sorkin but you're dead right about Aaron vs. Joss. That's exactly the difference. Not that that's always bad. When Sorkin is off the 'shrooms (or on?) and it's working, his style is great. But he is scared of silence. The only time there's no dialogue is when he's got a rock song underplaying the scene.

Amy S-P actually is midway between them, I think. I think the chatter on Gilmore Girls is a function of the characters more than the writers. And they do have moments where little or nothing is said (Lorelai and her dad in the hospital, Luke sliding the doughnut to Lorelai after their fight) but everything is shown.

(Yes, I'm a writer and a huge writing geek. Is it showing?)

DL

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Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:05 AM

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My wife had a couple of good points about Firefly: It features comedy-packed conversation and antics in what is basically (sometimes tragically) a drama. The lines often come so fast you don't catch them all in one sitting. That's a reason why Gilmore Girls on the WB is so much fun.

Furthermore, the chemistry and motivation for each character and their relationship with each other is incredibly riveting. That's a reason why Gilmore Girls on the WB is so addictive.

What do you think? Does that sound too crazy? Firefly may not have a fast-talking mother-and-daughter duo, but I think the comparison is valid.


Basically, the comparison boils down to this: They're both well-written shows done in a currently popular style. If you'll watch, you'll see a lot of shows trying to immitate this style, but most lack the writing talent Firefly and Gilmore Girls have, so the similarity is less visible.

But yeah, I love both shows, and it's basically because they're both just so well done. If someone likes these aspects of one show, there's a good chance they'd like the same things in another. So in a "If you like X, you should check out Y" context, I'd say it's a valid comparison. Unless they're just hot for Rory or something.

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Friday, December 20, 2002 4:01 AM

Okay, I've just got to ask - is anyone else getting annoyed with the political views on Gilmore Girls. They're going the way of West Wing... great show at first, but after they're established they start ram-rodding the politics at us.

I love GG. But this season there has been constant Republican bashing, Bush jokes, Hillary Clinton praise, Kennedy praise, even a President Carter reference...

Is it just me or is anyone else getting tired of the Liberal Hollywood crowd writing in their politics into their shows? (can't really blame West Wing, it IS about politics after all...)

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Friday, December 20, 2002 4:27 AM

Kobayashi wrote:
Is it just me or is anyone else getting tired of the Liberal Hollywood crowd writing in their politics into their shows? (can't really blame West Wing, it IS about politics after all...)


Perhaps you should watch Law and Order. The new District attorney is played by an ex republican senator.
But what do you expect? democrats get most of their funding from Hollywood. Why do you think democrats want to give all your rights away for the sake of that industry...for Hollywood to portray democrats in a bad light or portraying republicans in a good light would be like oil companies criticizing republicans for pushing bad environmental policy...absurd.

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Friday, December 20, 2002 5:17 AM

They are both well-written and well-acted shows. I don't necessarily think Gilmore Girls is truly equal to Firefly in any other way. For a second, I was confused about your title.

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